Pictures and Information about Storks
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Re: Pictures and Information about Storks
This Bird Atlas is interesting. I guess the right point on map (the possible place) is Virolahti. Some BS from Estonia may like the place and its name too Who knows what will happen in one nice day
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Lili wrote:This Bird Atlas is interesting. I guess the right point on map (the possible place) is Virolahti. Some BS from Estonia may like the place and its name too Who knows what will happen in one nice day
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yes! You said itVirolahti
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A Black stork was seen in Finland again, in Pori, Launainen, the 29th May by four Finnish birdwatcers
http://www.tiira.fi/mielenkiintoiset2_Suomi.html
http://www.tiira.fi/mielenkiintoiset2_Suomi.html
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There was seen a Black stork in Finland the 12th Jun
in Suonenjoki Koppelosuo. It was told in www.tiira.fi that the Black stork stayed there only a short time.
in Suonenjoki Koppelosuo. It was told in www.tiira.fi that the Black stork stayed there only a short time.
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Original article, plus one picture of the area and an audio of the article:
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?sect ... icle=63986
Baumholder training ground teems with endangered species
By Seth Robbins, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Sunday, August 2, 2009
Ben Bloker / S&S
BAUMHOLDER, Germany—The steep, sloping hills of the military training area here, where bullets strafe trees and tanks rumble across meadows, has become the unlikely home for the black stork, a rare bird that seeks out only the wildest unspoiled terrain.[/color]
Several storks have already hatched there this year, said Matthias Schneider, forest meister for Baumholder’s 31,000-acre military training area. The location of the nests, though, are kept secret, to prevent people from disturbing them. And the storks are not the only new visitors to the grounds, Schneider said. There are lynx and wolves.
“People saw footprints, and a deer was killed,” he said. “We think the wolf came from the French border.”
Last November, the Baumholder training grounds became part of the Natura 2000 agreement, a European Union-wide network of protected lands. The designation has not compromised U.S. troops’ training on the grounds, said Kenneth White, spokesman for Installation Management Command-Europe. Nor, in many cases, has it compromised the habitat for species that share the land.
Tanks and roving soldiers can even offer advantages to some endangered species, according to research scientist Steve Warren, who studied the ecosystems at training areas in Hohenfels and Grafenwöhr. Warren discovered that the Natterjack toad, yellow-bellied toads and blue-winged grasshoppers thrive on training grounds, where disturbance to the land provides them the open habitat they like. The blue-winged grasshopper, which has poor eyesight, requires open grassland to hunt, he said, and disturbance is vital to the toads laying their eggs.
“Military training areas are absolutely pristine in some parts, other areas are beat to heck, and then you’ve got everything in between,” Warren said. “Disturbance is a natural part of the ecosystem.”
Certain areas of the training grounds, such as wetlands, have been placed off-limits to soldiers and vehicles. Other areas, though, have species that flourish in the makeshift war zone, such as rare plants that grow only in bomb craters.
“Nobody knows the formula of how much disturbance is enough and how much is too much,” Warren said. “I think you can’t have too much disturbance as long as it’s not applied uniformly.”
The landscape, though, didn’t always look like this; Baumholder’s training grounds were originally farmlands, which were home to about 14 villages. A special order from Adolf Hitler formed the training area in 1937, displacing the villagers but allowing vegetation to grow unfettered by fertilizers and pesticides.
Schneider pointed out two tattered and moss-covered bunkers hidden among the trees that were once used by soldiers of the Third Reich. Schneider’s border collie, Laica, romped in their shade.
“There are parts of this forest that have been untouched for 60 years,” he said.
Woodlands now cover more than half the grounds, and several of the tree species — beech, oak and cracked willow — are prized for their ability to withstand the constant hail of bullets.
“We are very happy to have these trees here,” Schneider said, pointing at a cracked willow, with dozens of chips in its trunk. “They can be wounded and not be infested by something like a beetle.”
From a murky brown pool, Schneider pulled a sprig of frog spoon. The green, oval-leaf plant looks unremarkable, but it is rare and protected throughout Europe. And in this case, the tank that loped over the land and created the water bed, allowed it to grow.
“It needs densely packed soil,” Schneider said.
Besides the black stork, several other species of birds nest here, and bats are a common sight in the evenings. Sharing the grounds are wild boar, red-tailed deer and a type of wildcat that is very shy, Schneider said, particularly when bullets are flying.
“We do have some casualties,” Schneider said. “Sometimes you’ll come across a skull and some bones.”
Yet, the unpredictably is part of what makes the training grounds an interesting place, Warren said. Military lands provide some of the best habitat in the United States, too.
“Quite by accident,” he said, “the military has created some of the most biodiverse parcels of land.”
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?sect ... icle=63986
Baumholder training ground teems with endangered species
By Seth Robbins, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Sunday, August 2, 2009
Ben Bloker / S&S
BAUMHOLDER, Germany—The steep, sloping hills of the military training area here, where bullets strafe trees and tanks rumble across meadows, has become the unlikely home for the black stork, a rare bird that seeks out only the wildest unspoiled terrain.[/color]
Several storks have already hatched there this year, said Matthias Schneider, forest meister for Baumholder’s 31,000-acre military training area. The location of the nests, though, are kept secret, to prevent people from disturbing them. And the storks are not the only new visitors to the grounds, Schneider said. There are lynx and wolves.
“People saw footprints, and a deer was killed,” he said. “We think the wolf came from the French border.”
Last November, the Baumholder training grounds became part of the Natura 2000 agreement, a European Union-wide network of protected lands. The designation has not compromised U.S. troops’ training on the grounds, said Kenneth White, spokesman for Installation Management Command-Europe. Nor, in many cases, has it compromised the habitat for species that share the land.
Tanks and roving soldiers can even offer advantages to some endangered species, according to research scientist Steve Warren, who studied the ecosystems at training areas in Hohenfels and Grafenwöhr. Warren discovered that the Natterjack toad, yellow-bellied toads and blue-winged grasshoppers thrive on training grounds, where disturbance to the land provides them the open habitat they like. The blue-winged grasshopper, which has poor eyesight, requires open grassland to hunt, he said, and disturbance is vital to the toads laying their eggs.
“Military training areas are absolutely pristine in some parts, other areas are beat to heck, and then you’ve got everything in between,” Warren said. “Disturbance is a natural part of the ecosystem.”
Certain areas of the training grounds, such as wetlands, have been placed off-limits to soldiers and vehicles. Other areas, though, have species that flourish in the makeshift war zone, such as rare plants that grow only in bomb craters.
“Nobody knows the formula of how much disturbance is enough and how much is too much,” Warren said. “I think you can’t have too much disturbance as long as it’s not applied uniformly.”
The landscape, though, didn’t always look like this; Baumholder’s training grounds were originally farmlands, which were home to about 14 villages. A special order from Adolf Hitler formed the training area in 1937, displacing the villagers but allowing vegetation to grow unfettered by fertilizers and pesticides.
Schneider pointed out two tattered and moss-covered bunkers hidden among the trees that were once used by soldiers of the Third Reich. Schneider’s border collie, Laica, romped in their shade.
“There are parts of this forest that have been untouched for 60 years,” he said.
Woodlands now cover more than half the grounds, and several of the tree species — beech, oak and cracked willow — are prized for their ability to withstand the constant hail of bullets.
“We are very happy to have these trees here,” Schneider said, pointing at a cracked willow, with dozens of chips in its trunk. “They can be wounded and not be infested by something like a beetle.”
From a murky brown pool, Schneider pulled a sprig of frog spoon. The green, oval-leaf plant looks unremarkable, but it is rare and protected throughout Europe. And in this case, the tank that loped over the land and created the water bed, allowed it to grow.
“It needs densely packed soil,” Schneider said.
Besides the black stork, several other species of birds nest here, and bats are a common sight in the evenings. Sharing the grounds are wild boar, red-tailed deer and a type of wildcat that is very shy, Schneider said, particularly when bullets are flying.
“We do have some casualties,” Schneider said. “Sometimes you’ll come across a skull and some bones.”
Yet, the unpredictably is part of what makes the training grounds an interesting place, Warren said. Military lands provide some of the best habitat in the United States, too.
“Quite by accident,” he said, “the military has created some of the most biodiverse parcels of land.”
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Black storks nest on the edge of the hungarian Plain called Hortobágy
The "home” photographer of our forum Pusi is the big lover of Hortobágy. In this summer she found a black storks nest in a bushy forest on the edge of Hortobágy. An old sheperd showed her the nest. Nobady knew the place of the nest, only Pusi and the sheperd. Pusi visited the nest regularly, and took a lot of photos from the chicks. She has a very good camera, so she could keep the distance without disturbing the life in the nest.
On the end of july she found the parents as well together with 40 other birds. They were assembling on a plain, near the river Tisza. We are very proud, that we have more than 40 black storks at this place.
If you click on this link you can see the photos about Pusi’s black storks. Sorry but the comments are only in hungarian.
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The "home” photographer of our forum Pusi is the big lover of Hortobágy. In this summer she found a black storks nest in a bushy forest on the edge of Hortobágy. An old sheperd showed her the nest. Nobady knew the place of the nest, only Pusi and the sheperd. Pusi visited the nest regularly, and took a lot of photos from the chicks. She has a very good camera, so she could keep the distance without disturbing the life in the nest.
On the end of july she found the parents as well together with 40 other birds. They were assembling on a plain, near the river Tisza. We are very proud, that we have more than 40 black storks at this place.
If you click on this link you can see the photos about Pusi’s black storks. Sorry but the comments are only in hungarian.
The biggest experience
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Those are lovely! Especially so many storks in a field.
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Hello George! you lucky guy!!
of course all the Hungarians also So many Black Storks, ehh i envy you...
Thank you for sharing these pictures with us, and thanks to Pusi for excellent work
of course all the Hungarians also So many Black Storks, ehh i envy you...
Thank you for sharing these pictures with us, and thanks to Pusi for excellent work
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I remember reading for a little more than a year now that BS are solitary birds, congregating in numbers only during the migration, in Israel or Africa, though a photographer once mentioned in passing a colony of black storks near a village in Altai and that storks were used to visiting the village. I also remember reading about a very dense population of BS in Hungary in another forum, was it less than 1 kilometer between nests...macko50 wrote:Black storks nest on the edge of the hungarian Plain called Hortobágy
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After seeing the outstanding photo story by Pusi and reading about Hortobagy*, I'd like to know whether they are getting ready for the migration in those pics [like white storks do]? Or is it usual for them to socialize after visiting those fishponds [no fishponds to be seen in the pics]? Does anyone have an answer?
Also, can't quite make out from the pics whether they are all adults or there are the young ones too.
* "Hortobagy [stress on the first syllable, 'gy' stands for soft 'g' or palatized 'd' like in 'during', 'due'] is the largest continuous natural grassland in Europe. The Hortobagy National Park, established in 1973 is the country’s largest protected area of 82 thousand hectares... A major part of the area of the National Park is formed by natural habitats, alkaline grasslands, and meadows, smaller and bigger marshes enclosed between them. Some artificial wetlands covering a much smaller area are of considerable importance: these are the fishponds, situated on 6 thousand hectares. The marshes and fishponds are breeding habitats of birds and important sites for the migrating birds..." http://www.hnp.hu/index_en.php
PS. While Googling, found this http://www.earthshots.org/2007/12/black ... ri-shimon/
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"I also remember reading about a very dense population of BS in Hungary in another forum, was it less than 1 kilometer between nests..."
This place is Gemenc. You can find a short summary about Gemenc and some answers of your questions on this web sites :
Gemenc
Gemenc2
As Pusi sad, in the big grup, when they were more than 40, the adults were together with the young ones.
The place, where she found them was on the edge of Hortobágy National Park, but out of its orders near the river Tisza.
"I also remember reading about a very dense population of BS in Hungary in another forum, was it less than 1 kilometer between nests..."
This place is Gemenc. You can find a short summary about Gemenc and some answers of your questions on this web sites :
Gemenc
Gemenc2
As Pusi sad, in the big grup, when they were more than 40, the adults were together with the young ones.
The place, where she found them was on the edge of Hortobágy National Park, but out of its orders near the river Tisza.
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There are in every population the individuals not breeding. At least in Estonia, in the edge of the range, every summer are met some groups of BS. Think in Gemenc similar ones are more common.
And there was other nest of different pair visible from one...
And there was other nest of different pair visible from one...
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Thanks to George and Urmas. So, there would be this year's nonbreeders and successful parents with their offspring (based on what Pusi said) in that crowd, resting after the hard work of feeding. Judging by the following quote from the article behind the Gemenc2 link in George's post - "In our 10-years of experience in the Gemenc region, ... Fledging takes place in the first half of July on average", there might also be early migrants who don't have to take care of their chicks anymore, not necessarily from Gemenc.
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16th August. Black Storks seen in Southern Finland four times in different places during same day
- Helsinki Laajasalo, Hevossalmi 1
- Porvoo Kiiala 1
- Porvoo Virtaala 1
- Pornainen Laukkoski, Kylmäkorpi 1
the 15th August Black Storks seen in three different places in Southern Finland
- Siuntio Sunnanvik 1
- Kirkkonummi Peuramaa 1
- Hanko Täktom 1
Young Black Stork guests from Estonia?
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Glad for you, Renandeli! I know how much you like to have this kind of guests!
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Does the band look familiar or not? Anyway the age of this about one year, isn't it... It could be.. I can't see the numbers and the colour of the band is maybe yellow-black..
Picture has been taken in Israel 5th April 2009 in Yotveta, Arava, sevage pond by Lior Kislev
I found the picture here:
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showph ... oto=260555
The Israel webpage where it can be seen too:
http://tatzpit.com/Site/pages/inPage.as ... bsubID=320
Picture has been taken in Israel 5th April 2009 in Yotveta, Arava, sevage pond by Lior Kislev
I found the picture here:
http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showph ... oto=260555
The Israel webpage where it can be seen too:
http://tatzpit.com/Site/pages/inPage.as ... bsubID=320
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As you might know I´ve been in Eastern Germany lately.
White Storks are quite common over there and in almost every village there´s at least one nest.
Here are some pics:
White Storks are quite common over there and in almost every village there´s at least one nest.
Here are some pics:
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