Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion 2009 ~ Eha & Koit

[asteria]

Yes, but at the same time without ppl Spot would have to die in winter. Now he has a chance to survive at least. Also small birds: how many of them were saved from hunger in winter due to feeding?

[Jo UK]

Thanks, asteria.
It helps to have a balancing view!
I think I am in a :argue: mood today!

[visitor]

Thanks, asteria.
It helps to have a balancing view!
I think I am in a :argue: mood today!

The last week has been hard for us, bird-lovers, too many bad news...

I'm so worried about Spot.

[alice44]

For me Spot is my bird -- I mean the one I totally fell in love with this year. I so hope Spot is ok, becomes fantastic.
But just needing to be with people is a bit of a risk.

[sunnygirl]

The last week has been hard for us, bird-lovers, so many bad news...

I'm so worried about Spot.

So am I

[oliv]

I was worried for Spots travel to Africa and now she is hurt near the nest. I am so sad and hope that it is no one who have been shoting at her.
I have been looking at many picture of Spot today and I have many wonderful memorys of her standing there with her "legging". I hope we can se her next springtime fit and well.
I say "she" when I talk aboute Spot and hope we have the result of test if it is a male or a female soon.
Isn´t it a miracle that someone find Spot

[Kuremari]

Hi, here is an article about Spot!!
http://www.maaleht.ee/news/loodus/loodu ... d=25687439

Spot is still pretty weak, not standing up. It has a big "blood clump" (verevalum) sorry, could not find the right word, under right wing.
But good news is that Spot has very good appetite, he/she gets medication and food additives.
People from Nigula Shelter are optimistic and hope that Spot can continue the migration ...if the treatment is successful..

Spotty, we keep all our fingers crossed!! get well, please!

Huge thanks to Mihkel Juhkam, who found Spot!

i hope somebody (Liis, please )will translate the whole article! it is too late now,

[alice44]

Google translation could not handle the page but it kind of translated the article.

It sounds like Spot was bruised (badly) has a hematoma, under the right wing cap, probably from flying into something (on the eagle video you see eagles pulling in a wing to fly past a tree, it must be quite a skill to learn). And I guess Urmas said that judging from the litter found around where Spot was found, it is likely that Spot has been hurt for a while (a month?). I cannot really tell from the translation what it says about Spot's current appetite but I will take Kuremari's word for it that Spot is eating well (poultry is mentioned -- voles, moles and frogs would be the ticket) and getting food additives.

These translation tools are some what iffy! But still rather impressive.

[asteria]

But how can Spot continue the migration this year? Isn't it already too late?

[ulag]

Droga Spot
Trzymaj się - musisz być zdrowa.
Trzymam za Ciebie kciuki...
Wielkie dzięki Młodemu Człowiekowi, który Ją znalazł...Wielkie dzięki Pracownikom azylu, którzy dbają o Spot
Pozdrawiam
Ula

[Liis]

This is the Maaleht article.

Young eagle Spot had severe wing injury
Author: Bianca Mikovitš
Source: Maaleht, 15. september 2009 11:41
Internet link http://www.maaleht.ee/news/loodus/loodu ... d=25687439


Mihkel Juhkam who went to look for mushrooms on Saturday had walked for less than 100 m before he saw a large bird sitting hunched up under a tree.

“I have never befoe seen an eagle at so close quarters, actually I couldn’t guess precisely what bird it was”, said Mihkel Juhkam who at once informed the Environment Agency (Keskkonnainspektsioon) people about his discovery.

With advice from the specialists Mihkel brought a box from home, lifted the bird into it, and kept it at home until evening when the environment people came for the eagle.

The director of the Nigula Animal Rehabilitation Centre, Kaja Kübar, says that if the young spotted eagle had been left for longer in the forest it would have had a sad ending.

The young spotted eagle, named Spot by the LSE camera and TV viewers was thin for its age and under its right wing was a large haematoma (hemorrhage).
“Obviously it had collided with something in flight”, Kaja Kübar said, and explained that such collisions are so common in autumn in the migration excitement that people in the rehab centre have dubbed the period the “Bumping Period”.
"If the collision is with a car the bird may easily be killed on the spot, but there are collisions with trees and other obstacles too”, she explained.

At the moment Spot is still so poorly that he doesn’t even want to stand up very much, but its appetite is good and this is a good sign for recovery, Kaja Kübar says. The veterinary who examined the bird prescribed some extra food additives which should speed the recovery.
If the treatment helps, and the blood swelling (haematoma) goes down the young eagle may still be able to take off on its long migration journey, despite the accident.
Eagle expert Urmas Sellis said that the female of the nest apparently started her migration already a month ago; the male bird was still seen only some time ago, but at the moment probably he too is on his migration journey.
"If Spot recovers, there is still time for him to make the migration journey”, Urmas Sellis believes. “Eagles don’t need travelling companions, they prefer flying on their own”.

(Rough translation.
The main contents are as already told.
Have I missed something - can't see anything about how long Spot may have been injured in the forest?
EDIT: the article is all there; checked Google translation - ingredients are pretty well correct, but put together slightly misleadingly in places. Still, not too bad either)

[alice44]

This is the Maaleht article.

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Eagle expert Urmas Sellis said that the female of the nest apparently started her migration already a month ago; the male bird was still seen only some time ago, but at the moment probably he too is on his migration journey.

(The main contents are as already told.
Have I missed something - can't see anything about how long Spot may have been injured in the forest?)

Thank you for getting to that so quickly
I got something about litter which maybe was referring to family (litter of puppies) rather than debris as I assumed. And thus was talking about Eha leaving a month ago.

So you really NEED a native speaker and not just a computer!

The article also indicates that Spot's rescuer went home to get a box and then came back for Spot which means he really went out of his way to save our Spot!

[Liis]

So you really NEED a native speaker and not just a computer!

The article also indicates that Spot's rescuer went home to get a box and then came back for Spot which means he really went out of his way to save our Spot!

Well, both are good to have, and better check with a native before killing someone because of a Google translation.
But everything considered, and used with care and sense, the Google translations are quite marvellous. Particularly for minor out-of-the way languages (where they of course also are least quality - but you can't have it all, for free ...). Imagine sitting with a glossary ... Word by word ...
Poor Spot though - insult added to injury - it's Spot who is referred to as "poultry" by Google

[alice44]

Well, both are good to have, and better check with a native before killing someone because of a Google translation.
But everything considered, and used with care and sense, the Google translations are quite marvellous. Particularly for minor out-of-the way languages (where they of course also are least quality - but you can't have it all, for free ...). Imagine sitting with a glossary ... Word by word ...
Poor Spot though - insult added to injury - it's Spot who is referred to as "poultry" by Google

Oh dear! I logically thought his food was poultry as I know an eagle is NOT poultry.

Google is amazing! And I suspect they will make it better with time. I have a few dictionaries for translations but not many, and my friends are only willing to translate so much!

Anyhow Liis I am glad you came to our translation rescue!

[asteria]

The cam is still working but who will appear here after all? Only wrong birds and animals.

[sunnygirl]

Hi Ula

Droga Spot
Trzymaj się - musisz być zdrowa.
Trzymam za Ciebie kciuki...
Wielkie dzięki Młodemu Człowiekowi, który Ją znalazł...Wielkie dzięki Pracownikom azylu, którzy dbają o Spot
Pozdrawiam
Ula

Google translation

Way Spot
Hold on - you must be healthy.
Keep fingers crossed for you ...
Many thanks the young man who found her ... Thanks asylum workers who care for Spot
Yours
Ula

[NancyM]

Google translation
Way Spot

I know only about 5 words of Polish, but I do know that droga (in this context) means "Dear" >>> "Dear Spot"
(in another context it means "way" or "road" ... we must keep training Google )

Thank you, Liis, for the translation of the newspaper article, and kuremari & alice for the earlier summaries.


eta: every time I think of how we watched Spot grow up, and admired her every feather and pose, it really makes me more than sad to imagine her "huddled under the tree" where she was found. Just out of our sight, injured, her father finally having to leave. And then a human angel appeared to rescue her!

Thank You once again, Pähkel

[visitor]

A new article on LK - Spot in Hospital. http://www.looduskalender.ee/node/5102

Here's my rough translation (thank you, Google), hope Liis will help us soon.

Mihkel Juhkam found the Lesser Spotted Eagle Spot in the forest on Saturday and in the evening the "patient" was in Nigula ARC. There was a large hematoma under his right wing. Kaja Kübar (the director of the Nigula Animal Rehabilitation Centre) believes the accident happened on Wednesday or so, it means Spot has been hungry for quite a number of days. LSE migrate south alone. Eha left a month ago already, no precise data about Koit. Our LSE have no transmitters.

Kaja said that the situation is not hopeless, because Spot has the appetite, though it must be fed. Spot doesn't stand on its own, but the bones are OK (not broken) so we are hopeful. The weather is warm and there is still time to start travelling. If there will be news we will let you know.

[visitor]

I know only about 5 words of Polish, but I do know that droga (in this context) means "Dear" >>> "Dear Spot"
(in another context it means "way" or "road" ... we must keep training Google )

Well, it's understandable mistake if it translates "droga" being "way" in English. But it says "way" even in Estonian!!!

Yes, Google needs a lot of training... but it is SO funny sometimes!

[asteria]

The article on Spot appeared!

http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/5103