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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 7:31 pm
by yarko
Oh - this big dark prey is gone - so quickly!

About younger one - hate so say that but it's fate depends from one more thing (besiders weather and Eha’s way to treat it)
I searched a web today and found out about C a i n i s m - Cain and Abel syndrome - the killing of a nesting bird by a nestmate, always the first and oldest bird. It is most dramatic in eagles, especially Aquila.
http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Jun/msg00013.html

Here is a bit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf

Of course it doesn’t happen every nest - but it’s likely, and evidently Nature has it’s own reasons for that.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 7:32 pm
by macdoum
Eha is digging in the nest and re-arranging the green twigs before settling down again.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 7:41 pm
by asteria
Did it ever happen that both chicks killed each other like the sons of Oedipus?(no idea how to call it)

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 7:49 pm
by macdoum
Sulev made a delivery. Eha ate it straight away.!! Eha, you are supposed to keep
SOMETHING for feeding. :protest:

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 7:51 pm
by macdoum
asteria wrote:Did it ever happen that both chicks killed each other like the sons of Oedipus?(no idea how to call it)
? fratricide.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 8:00 pm
by asteria
Maybe Eha is chewing food for littleones.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 9:13 pm
by juta
21.12

Feeding the chick, can´t recognize which one

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 9:19 pm
by alice44
yarko wrote:Oh - this big dark prey is gone - so quickly!

About younger one - hate so say that but it's fate depends from one more thing (besiders weather and Eha’s way to treat it)
I searched a web today and found out about C a i n i s m - Cain and Abel syndrome - the killing of a nesting bird by a nestmate, always the first and oldest bird. It is most dramatic in eagles, especially Aquila.
http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Jun/msg00013.html

Here is abit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf

Of course it doesn’t happen every nest - but it’s likely, and evidently Nature has it’s own reasons for that.
Given that Eha seems to sometimes eat instead of feeding Spotlet #1, Spotlet #1 might end up rather hungry at some point. I guess we will learn...

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 9:21 pm
by frithjof
I have missed everything but i so happy that the second egg hatched :loveshower:
Now I hope both chicks will survive

Both chicks were just feeded and Eha did a good job, little pieces each time :laugh:

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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 9:33 pm
by alice44
:loveshower:
I missed the feeding -- I was looking at my excel spread sheet.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 10:31 pm
by Olga
This is Spot with egg in the morning, alone and with Eha about 9:45 :D

It is so little yet..

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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 10:35 pm
by Olga
These are my best pics of the second Spot in the evening at 19:22 an 19:23

:laugh: what tiny but brave it is

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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 10:37 pm
by NancyM
yarko wrote:Here is a bit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf
yarko, thanks for posting that link :2thumbsup: - that professional article was also recommended to me. The Introduction (and actually, all of the paper) is very interesting. I read the paper, but could not find the link this morning.

(and there are some nice color pictures of spotlets in there, too)

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 10:38 pm
by Olga
I believe if both get food enough they will be soon the same size..

1 The first Spot in the morning :chick:
2 The second Spot in the evening..actually there are both Spots :chick: :bounce:


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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 10:42 pm
by Jo UK
So Spot Senior looks to be white and Spot Junior is grey, at the moment.

Yarko and bociany, thanks for the Cain and Abel information.

Oh well, wait and see.

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:13 pm
by juta
Pictures from earlier feeding at 21.12

First got some food younger eaglet:

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And then older eaglet:

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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:17 pm
by juta
And now, when I watch those pictures, not quite sure who was who?

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:18 pm
by macko50
Good evening Everybody !

I have made a video about today's last feeding.

The very interesting part is the middle of the video.

Please watch it in HQ mode!

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Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:19 pm
by Jo UK
Article about this nest on LK
http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/4114

Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion

Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:28 pm
by Jo UK
Thank you George.
It looked as though both chicks are being fed!