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Think the name for server could be what ever characters combination, but for this one has chosen pontu.
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visitor wrote:Not sure why Urmas has chosen this name... :puzzled laugh: ...

As much as I know, Pontu is a dog name.
Sometimes it is used to describe a big and friendly dog, maybe not the most beautiful, but nice and plausible.

When I went to school (it was a LONG time ago! :blush: ) we used to call our admirers/boyfriends "my pontu"... :rotf:
Pontu just sounds like a real word with a meaning and not just a random combination of letters... i think there was a dog called Pontus in the Finnish version of Donald Duck. :puzzled: it was not the usual dog though, it was Pulivari in Finnish... i don't don't what he is called internationally. this is Pulivari:
Image...no: the Pontus i was thinking about was Mr. P.J. McBrine alias Pontus Jacobert Petkunterä:
Image ... i knew it was in Donald Duck. :D

well, now,... i have a one more and a serious question: is the camera turning on and off determined by program settings or is there a light sensor which at a certain lighting level turns the camera on and off? this is important as i always thought (so far) that there's a light sensor controlling the camera.

my assumption is based on the fact that on sunny mornings the camera began working earlier than on cloudy mornings, as well as if the evening was sunny and clear the camera stayed on longer than on cloudy evening, despite of the changing day length. i need this information for my little study on the breeding behaviour of the eagles... and if there indeed is a light sensor, what is the lighting level on which it is tun ed to (in luxes or some other units)?
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Ame, you are right with Pontu - that servers free HDD room seemed hudge in time it was installed...

With WtE nest cam system there is integrated a light sensor switch, (like with seal cam). That switches electricity consumers off for dark time. We can't say about exact amount of luxes, by what it switches, because it is easy optical eye with elementary electronics. No luxmeter is included and we did not measure on place with portal luxmeter the light intensity - in system installing time we made the switching regulation by eye in forest. Probably there playes a role a snow also, if it is on ground or not and the leaves on trees, etc. The optical sensor is near the batteries, not near the camera. The lighting conditions in these places are certainly different, but darkening should appear in nearly same time, equally.
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allright, thank you Urmas! :wave:
that very good to know that there is a light sensor switching the Pontu-cam. i've taken that as a signal of the beginning and ending of day-time in my little 'research'. i compared it with the data of Sunset and Sunrise and the ending and beginning of twilight in both ends, and the camera switching seems to take place between those two. - it was a bit funny though that on sunny mornings the Sun was clearly shining on the forest and at the nest before the 'official' Sunrise! :puzzled: (and i did insert the coordinates of Silma Nature Reserve which i found from their webpage in the Sunrise&Sunset-program...) it might be that the Sunset & Sunrise times are calculated for sea-level... what is approximate elevation of the eagle forest: how high is it above sea level? and how high is the nest tree and how high is the nest, approximately?

but the live camera has worked in the darkness in the summer time. how is that possible then? does the live-cam have a life of its own?
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a question.

have more people suffer with mozilla firefox the adobe flash player still crashes?
since a new update of adobe a few days ago, this happens regularly.

( For example, when I go back to a previous page. )
The crash reports flying out of the door here. :bash:

Besides, with Google Chrome I have no sound with many webcams.
With Internet explorer I can not work on our website (Microsoft regulates everything)


my husband says, maybe it's my video card / notebook.
that is too hot from watching so many webcams simultaneously.
will be that the problem? :dunno:
Who knows ?
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Fleur -- I do not know how recently your problems began (I have not had an update for a few days now), but I do know that mozilla made many "external things" more external -- this means that when adobe crashes our whole system does not crash, but whatever it is that they did takes up lots of room and makes those external things crash a LOT. I think they know this is causing problems, but I do not know if they plan to fix it.

(EDIT-- I had a typo that made my comment make NO sense.)


I do not know the proper words :blush:

I have scripts that aren't working all the time. I always stop them and sometimes that creates a problem.

Adobe flash crashes often. (but I don't make videos so it is less problem for me)

I was told that I could over write the new mozilla solution, but I am too scared, so I think I will have problems until I have a bigger computer.
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I think I should turn off the PC here, is a little bit hot now, or ....a few pages close.

Now I think about it, I think sometimes I'm open to many webcams at the same time etc, and also download of the webcam images.
so I must learn to choose or take turns to look.

I'm hearing now, that up-date was a few weeks ago already
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oh wow Fleur: your pc is running hot! how many webcams do you have open at the same time?? :puzzled: mine is nice and warm for my fingers at this cold time of the year... :mrgreen:

seriously: i know nothing about adobe or mozilla problems i'm afraid... my problems are caused by the limited data transmission rate that i have. at least i think they are because of that. every time i start uploading a video into Y-tube the camera (or cameras) i'm watching at the same time begin to freeze and quite often the camera simply stops. on hte other hand, if the uploading stops before the camera crashes (actually the VLC-player that i'm using) then then camera begins playing normally.

i hope that you'll get your problems fixed, Fleur! :peek:
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I do not think I can solve the problems.
However, to make choices, and not many webcams simultaneously watching and start saving for a new laptop, which has more capabilities.
sometimes looks like more than three at once, and even surf the web.
I also download the images.
Was also trying to VLC, so it was all a bit much. :nod:
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i have a question regarding the Saunja server or the Pontu pictures. i haven't been able to open any Pontu pictures yesterday and today. is the server down, or is it suffering from the same internet problems that the Siga kaamera had?

or even worse: are the Pontu pictures removed from the server? :shock: :help:
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Ame, I am trying to find the answer to your question. Will let you know as soon as I learn anything.
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ame wrote:i have a question regarding the Saunja server or the Pontu pictures. i haven't been able to open any Pontu pictures yesterday and today. is the server down, or is it suffering from the same internet problems that the Siga kaamera had?

or even worse: are the Pontu pictures removed from the server? :shock: :help:
Ame, the only reply i have had is one of those "Sorry, but I don't know" replies.
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ok, thank you, Jo, for trying. :hi:
the Saunja server is still down, but hopefully the Pontu pictures will return soon. :unsure:
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You can watch the live cameras with the VLC-player –program. VLC-player is easy to use for both taking pictures and recording video from the live camera: you just click a button.
livekameroita voi katsoa VLC-player-ohjelmalla. sillä on myös helppoa sekä ottaa kuvakaappauksia että nauhoittaa videota kuvavirrasta vain nappia painamalla.
VLC-payer-proggrammen kan användas för att titta på live-kameror. med VLC-playern är det också helt enkelt att både skärmdumpa photografier och spela in video med att bara pressa på ett knapp.
Вы можете посмотреть живых камер с VLC-плеер-программа. это простой в использовании VLC-плеер для фотосъемки и записи видео с живой камеры: вы просто нажимаете кнопку.

How to download VLC-player from the internet/Miten VLC-soitin ladataan internetistä / Hur ska man nerladda VLC-spelaren från internet / Как скачать VLC-player = VLC-плеер от интернета

you can find the VLC-page from the forest news: / VLC-soitin löytyy esim. metsäuutisten sivulta: / VLC-spelaren kan hittas t.ex. i skognyheternas sida: / Вы можете найти VLC-страницы в лесу новости:
http://www.looduskalender.ee/taxonomy/term/16?page=30
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or search with Google:/ tai käyttäen Google-hakukonetta: / eller med Google:/ или поиска с Google:
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both lead you to the VLC-website./molemmista pääsee VLC-nettisivulle./ var och en tar dig till VLC-webbplats./ как привести вас к VLC-сайте.
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in the picture above/ ylläolevassa kuvassa/ i bilden ovanför/ выше фотография:
if your computer uses Windows, click the big orange button (blue arrow). for other systems click the line under the button (green line).
jos tietokoneessasi on Windows-järjestelmä, napauta isoa oranssia nappia (sininen nuoli).
muille järjestelmille paina sen alla olevaa riviä (vihreä alleviivaus).

om din dator har Windows, pressa på den stora orange knappen (blå pil). för andra systemer pressa på radet under knappen (understrykt med grönt).
Если ваш компьютер использует Windows, нажмите на большую оранжевую кнопку (синяя стрелка). для других систем нажмите черту под кнопки (зеленая линия).

in the picture below:/ allaolevassa kuvassa:/ i bilden nedanför: /в нижней фотография
after that click “save file”./ seuraavaksi napauta “tallenna tiedosto”./ sedan pressa “spara filen”./ то Нажмите кнопку "Сохранить файл" = “save file”.
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select a folder where you want to save the file. click ”open”./ valitse kansio, jonne tiedosto tallennetaan. napauta ”avaa”./ välja en mapp, vart du vill spara filen. pressa ”öppna”./ выберите папку, в которой вы хотите сохранить файл. нажмите "Открыть" ”open”.
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select language for installation./ valitse kieli asennusta varten./ välja språk för installering./ выбрать язык для установки.
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it doesn’t really matter what language you choose. in the following just press the “next”-buttons. then click ”install”.
kielivalinnalla ei ole väliä, sillä jatkossa pitää vain painella “next”-nappia. paina sitten ”asenna” = ”install”.
språkvalet är inte viktig för I fortsättningen skall du bara pressa “next”-knappen. sedan pressa på ”installera”.
язык не является важным, поскольку в следующем вам нужно нажать кнопку "Далее ". затем нажмите кнопку "Установить" = ”install”.
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installation takes a while./ asennus kestää hetken./ installeringen tar litet tid./ установка занимает мало времени.
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finally press ”finish”./ lopuksi klikkaa ”finish”. / till sist pressa “finish”./ наконец, нажмите кнопку "Готово " = ”finish”.
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open in the folder where you saved the VLC-file. click on the name and then press return./ avaa se kansio, jonne tallensit VLC:n, napauta sen nimeä ja paina “return”./ öppna den mappen vart du sparade VLC-filen, pressa på dess namn och pressa “return”./ Откройте папку, где вы сохранили VLC-файл. Нажмите на названии, а затем нажмите клавишу возврата.
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in the next window press ”run”./ seuraavassa ikkunassa paina “run”./ i följande fönstret pressa “run”./ В следующем окне нажмите "Выполнить" = ”run”.
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then there will be a question: ”do you want this program to make changes on your computer…?”. answer “yes” and the installation will be completed.
sitten sinulta kysytään: ”do you want this program to make changes on your computer…?”. vastaa “yes” ja ohjelma asentuu koneellesi.
sedan blir set en fråga: ”do you want this program to make changes on your computer…?”. svara “yes” och installationen skall bli komplett.
тогда будет вопрос: "Вы хотите эту программу, чтобы сделать изменения на вашем компьютере ...?" = ”do you want this program to make changes on your computer…?”. Ответ "да" = ”yes” и установка будет завершена.
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First time of use:
to find and run the VLC-player open folder C: Program files – VideoLAN – VLC and there you see the icon of the program. select it (green arrow) and click “open” (blue arrow).
Ensimmäisellä kerralla:
avataksesi VLC-soittimen avaa kansio C: Program files – VideoLAN – VLC. sieltä löytyy ohjelman ikoni. valitse se klikkaamalla (vihreä nuoli) ja klikkaa sitten “avaa”.

Första gången du använder VLC:
för at hitta och köra VLC-spelaren öppna mappen C: Program files – VideoLAN – VLC. där finns VLC-ikonen. välja den genon at pressa på namnet (grön pil) och sedan pressa på “open” (blå pil).

Первое время использования:
найти и запустить VLC-плеер Открыть папку C: Program files – VideoLAN – VLC. Там вы видите картину ”VLC”. выберите его (зеленая стрелка) и нажмите "Открыть" (Синяя стрелка).

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the basic VLC-player window looks like this. VLC-soittimen perusikkuna on tällainen. först ser VLC-spelaren ut som här. На первый VLC-плеер выглядит следующим образом.
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to choose the folder for the screencaptures open “Tools” (orange circle) and select “Settings” (blue arrow).
kuvakaappausten tallennuskansion valitsemiseksi avaa “Tools” (oranssi rengas) ja valitse “Asetukset” (sininen nuoli).
för att välja var du vill spara skärmdumpningar öppna “Tools” (orange cirkel; verktyg?, redskap?) och välja “Settings” (blå pil, sättningar?).
выбрать папку для сохранения фотографий: открытый "Инструменты" (оранжевый круг, “Tools”) и выберите пункт "Настройки" (синяя стрелка, “Asetukset”).
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click “Video” on the left (orange circle). in the place marked with green you can use the browser (blue arrow; lowest picture) to select the folder where you want to save the screencaptures (grey arrow). file type .jpg (black circle) is smaller than the other alternative .png. when you are finished click “Save” (red arrow).
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napauta vasemmalla kohtaa “Video” (oranssi rengas). vihreällä merkityssä kohdassa voit selaamalla hakea sopivan kansion (harmaa nuoli), jonne haluat tallentaa kuvakaappaukset (“browse”, sininen nuoli; alin kuva). tiedostotyyppi .jpg tuottaa paljon pienempiä kuvatiedostoja kuin toinen vaihtoehto .png (musta rengas). paina lopuksi “Tallenna” (punainen nuoli).
pressa på “Video” på vänster (orange cirkel). i fördelningen markerad med grönt kan du använda “browse” (blå pil; lägsta bilden) för att välja mappen för skärmdumpningar (grå pil). filtypen .jpg producerar mycket mindre bildfil än .png (svart cirkel). till sist pressa på “Spara” = “Save” (röd pil).
нажмите кнопку "Видео" на левой (оранжевый круг). в месте, обозначенном зеленым спользовать браузер (синяя стрелка), чтобы выбрать папку, в которой вы хотите сохранить фотографии (серая стрелка; нижняя фотография). тип файла .JPG (черный круг) меньше, чем другие альтернативные .png. По завершении нажмите кнопку "Сохранить" (красная стрелка).
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