DISCUSSION ESTLAT Osprey Nest 1 Madis & Piret ~ 2012

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Re: ESTLAT Osprey Nest Webcam Discussion 2012

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Birdie wrote:Could the intruder be a hawk?


Here is the voice

http://www.xeno-canto.org/sounds/upload ... ok2007.mp3


maybe yes - that sound I also heard
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Jopie :wave:

Here I have a German site, the bird is called Habicht in German.

http://www.vogelstimmen.de/html/suchen. ... ff=Habicht

Hope the link works..!?
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maertha wrote:Here is the intruder alert from 20:24 :wave:
Fantastic Maertha, thank you. Indeed a very "thin", high, almost musical sound. I really do not recognise it.
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Birdie wrote:Jopie :wave:

Here I have a German site, the bird is called Habicht in German.

http://www.vogelstimmen.de/html/suchen. ... ff=Habicht

Hope the link works..!?
Birdie, yes, thank you! Habicht ist es auch nicht :laugh: ( The hawk is not it, either) Or it must be the Red Hawk, but it is not common in Estonia, I think. I wait for somebody else to recognise it, but the same bird was near the nest yesterday.
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maertha wrote:Here is the intruder alert from 20:24 :wave:

[youtube].................

:hi: Maertha

Thanks for this which I hoped for - because now we perhaps can ask the really experts?

Then please Urmas, but just if you can find the time! Can you tell us which bird
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jopie wrote: Birdie, yes, thank you! Habicht ist es auch nicht :laugh: ( The hawk is not it, either) Or it must be the Red Hawk, but it is not common in Estonia, I think. I wait for somebody else to recognise it, but the same bird was near the nest yesterday.
It must be a large bird which can cause a serious threat, otherwise Piret wouldn't be so upset I think. From what I can find on the internet, the only enemies (adult) ospreys have, are eagles and eagle-owls. And the sound we heard was definately not the very typical and easy recognisable 'ooh-hu' of an eagle-owl.

I've also been thinking about a harrier or black kite, but they make other sounds than the sounds we heard.
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maertha wrote:Here is the intruder alert from 20:24 :wave:
Nori was following the intruder with his/her eyes all the time. He/she seemed more interested than afraid of the unknown bird.
Maybe the chicks have to learn a lesson, so Piret showed them how to behave, when an enemy is approaching the nest.
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Thank you for sharing all your observations and pictures today. :2thumbsup: It´s really good to come back to the forum and to find so many interesting notes. :D

About the intruder: I´m no expert, but I think a hawk could be still dangerous for our trio.
I read a little about other nests, and in one case a hawk killed two osprey chicks which were about one month old.
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maertha wrote:About the intruder: I´m no expert, but I think a hawk could be still dangerous for our trio.
I read a little about other nests, and in one case a hawk killed two osprey chicks which were about one month old.
Last month it happened in Scotland where a buzzard took a 4-week old osprey chick. The osprey mother reacted too late to go confront the intruder and was then outmanoeuvred by the buzzard who managed to take a chick.

It was caught on video:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildli ... chick.html


On the other hand, ospreys are fierce when their offspring is threatened, as this bald eagle found out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zMsd8CEBp0
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Thanks for the links, Kukelke. I keep my fingers crossed for our osprey family.
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Sylvie Lefevre wrote:I watch a lot of nests in the world
but you have the best pictures, the best smart informations
and it is a great pleasure to watch every day pictures read the info
thanks so much
Thank you for your kind message, Sylvie.
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NancyM wrote: :cry: Please do not pick on Elo! Piret whacked her over the head with that branch, she looked around and maybe thought Nori had done it (I was watching then). Human siblings can be harder on younger ones than that, but they are not evil.

"Elo" means "life"
You´re right Nancy - no reason to blame Elo for being what he/she is! A very young osprey.

To mix human feelings into observations of our Osprey family are not good for anything.

And now it´s final :offtobed: have a good watch :hi:
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Hello :wave:

I look at the osprey webcam for so many weeks and I’m fascinated every day. I just have read half of this thread. And now I have registered because I have a question.

I have read there: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17

"All images from the Looduskalender webcams are free to use, providing they are not used for commercial or business profit. You may put your screenshot or video on a commercial photo-hosting website, such as Photobucket, ImageShack, Flickr, Pic-Upload, etc. If you post an image or video to websites or forums other than this one, you must include a link to the original Looduskalender webpage or camera from which the image was taken."


And now my question. I wonder if it is allowed to take various images and videos and create a new video? I make videos for some time (just as a hobby). Most from a TV series and also a lot of vids for friends from her cats) - like this one: https://vimeo.com/37481703

But this osprey animated me very well to make a video.

It's enough if I SPECIFIED the page to: looduskalender.ee?

Or what should I do to make and show a vid of these wonderful animals?

I’m german. Hope I use the right words. :blush:
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NancyM wrote: :cry: Please do not pick on Elo! Piret whacked her over the head with that branch, she looked around and maybe thought Nori had done it (I was watching then). Human siblings can be harder on younger ones than that, but they are not evil.

"Elo" means "life"


edit: I tried Felis' suggestion for making an animation
Nori said 'It wasn't me,I promise'.. :cry:
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Just for our information..unrelated to this nest. A very strange reaction from an osprey dad today at Rutland Waters UK;
http://www.ospreys.org.uk/category/osprey-team-blog/

Situated at Leiscestershire & Rutland Nature Reserve, England. Not even the experts there can understand why this parent bird attacked the youngster so fiercely. :slap:
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You guys are cracking me up with the cute and funny pics and captions, especially this one by NancyM

"We really wish we could eat this fish" :rotf:

NancyM wrote:5:46 We really wish we could eat this fish ...
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snApe1118 wrote:Hello :wave:

I look at the osprey webcam for so many weeks and I’m fascinated every day. I just have read half of this thread. And now I have registered because I have a question.

I have read there: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17

"All images from the Looduskalender webcams are free to use, providing they are not used for commercial or business profit. You may put your screenshot or video on a commercial photo-hosting website, such as Photobucket, ImageShack, Flickr, Pic-Upload, etc. If you post an image or video to websites or forums other than this one, you must include a link to the original Looduskalender webpage or camera from which the image was taken."


And now my question. I wonder if it is allowed to take various images and videos and create a new video? I make videos for some time (just as a hobby). Most from a TV series and also a lot of vids for friends from her cats) - like this one: https://vimeo.com/37481703

But this osprey animated me very well to make a video.

It's enough if I SPECIFIED the page to: looduskalender.ee?

Or what should I do to make and show a vid of these wonderful animals?

I’m german. Hope I use the right words. :blush:

Hello. Sorry, because of my poor English I´m not sure if I understood you question. First I thought you want to take the pictures and videos which were collected by the forum members and use the docu-material for your private purposes! :laugh:

But that would be pretty hard to imagine, so I´m quite sure I misinterpreted your message. Probably you wanted to know how you can take your own picutres and videos like those you have seen here. For this I recommend VLC Player. Think as a hobby-filmer you will know it. If not, please google the term. For technical instructions there´s a special part in this forum. You can post also all kind of technical questions there. Click here viewforum.php?f=3
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maertha, thank you for reminding me that I should have answered this question! And thank you for your reply to snApe1118 about how to make such a video

another part of the question:
It's enough if I SPECIFIED the page to: looduskalender.ee?
I think, if you make a video of this Osprey cam, the suggestion is to credit the osprey webcam page,

"If you post an image or video to websites or forums other than this one, you must include a link to the original Looduskalender webpage or camera from which the image was taken."

You can use either this link: http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/13110 (English page)
or this one: http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/taxonomy/term/50 (English page)

or the camera: http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/kalakotkas.html
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:cry:

especially NORI hates this rain :banghead:

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NancyM wrote:I was not watching in the interval, but
Fabulous captures, Nancy, thank you :) And thanks for all contributions :) I don't have time to follow this super family as closely as I would like to :(

Re Baltic Wildlife's video of an intruder alert yesterday, I was surprised to see Piret not mantling and screeching to defend the nest - I wondered if this intruder was especially fearsome, and wondered what the main threats to ospreys are in this area?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlIRJ1Z ... r_embedded#!
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