DISCUSSION ESTLAT Osprey Nest 1 Madis & Piret ~ 2012

[macdoum]

Excellent shots! And Madis is wonderful dad!

Seems Madis can count,one fish for each of the chicks. He is a good provider.
Thank you all for the news-of-the-day.

[gala]

Seems Madis can count,one fish for each of the chicks. He is a good provider.
Thank you all for the news-of-the-day.

Best dad ever! :)

[terbobun]

I've been reading all along. I just wanted to say thank you. I love the conversations of what the three of them are doing. And It makes me laugh as well. I agree with another poster who said, they feel they are reading like a book of whats going on every minute with the chicks. and the pictures are awesome too. I appreciate it very much.

[meierlein]

:peek:

Feeding habits

As its Estonian name (literally “the fish eagle”) suggests, our smallest eagle feeds almost entirely on fish. It is probable that the sleeker body of this species has developed during evolution in order to improve its chances of catching fish and makes the osprey better suited for executing moves requiring dexterity. Its more dextrous and faster flight is the osprey’s advantage compared to its larger relatives. However, the osprey can never be sure that the fish it has caught will remain its prey, since in many good hunting grounds, white-tailed eagles have specialised on taking over the ospreys’ catch. Fish are caught from as deep as a meter below the surface, and sometimes, the entire osprey can disappear under water during this process. The osprey’s favoured prey is fish weighing 200-300 grams: it is difficult to fly far with a larger fish and catching smaller ones would be inefficient. The osprey can transport prey to its nest from a distance of over 25 km! Ospreys are everyday visitors at some fish farms and perform the necessary task of removing injured or diseased fish, although healthy fish also fall victim to their attacks. However, when the fish in the ponds grow too large for the birds (over 400 g), the ospreys relocate to other hunting grounds. One osprey needs about 300 g of food per day. If the ospreys reach the final destination of their migration before the ice has melted, or if their nesting period is dominated by especially bad weather, the birds have to either fast or feed on other prey—thus, osprey have also been seen hunting mice and frogs.




URMAS should tell us too,
in what directions are the fishplaces, where MADIS catch their food

and how long it takes to fly back to the nest

[Cara]

Hello to you all!
I'm new with posting here but I daily read this forum full of joy! I enjoy our osprey family since about 4 weeks and I got addicted to them!
I absolutely agree to the words of some of the last postings. Those words about being grateful about this forum and the nice and informative comments, the funny comments and the pics and videos! I also agree to the words around concern and sorrow, when this beautiful and adorable family will leave us.
I honour nature, so normally I would be sad for myself (only) - but otherwise very happy for our family when they will leave us to start off the long journey to their migration place!
But nature isn't that nature anymore what will give animals a natural life. Humankind changed nature a lot and humankind created a world full of biological hazards like environment pollution. And not to forget all those cruel humans, who shoot those beautiful birds. So I know about many ospreys who were killed by shooting on their way to the migration land.
So what will be inside me when our family will leave us, will be a huge fear that something very bad could happen to them

But I don't want to be the "buzzkill" here, so please excuse my words and let us enjoy our wonderful and adorable Osprey family furthermore as long as they will be with us!
THANKS A LOT to you ALL and also a gratitude to those great people who made possible to watch this beauty of life daily!

[Cara]

Oh after registration about 1 week ago I selected a pic of myself as avatar pic, then I noticed that all of you selected a pic of an animal (mostly birds) and I wanted to change my pic. But then after I only had time for my daily work - included my addicted watching of our family and reading this forum, of course
And now I noticed that I posted my comment without changing my pic
I will change soon

[NancyM]

Welcome, Cara.

I understand what you worry about during the migration - over the years here, we have heard about storks and LSEs being killed on their way to or from their winter grounds. It is really tragic, when so many people work so hard to protect them only to lose them in such a senseless way.

[Cara]

Thank you very much, NancyM, for bid me welcome :-)
And also thanks a lot for understanding me. And yes, you're so right with your words

[Starling]

Oh after registration about 1 week ago I selected a pic of myself as avatar pic, then I noticed that all of you selected a pic of an animal (mostly birds) and I wanted to change my pic. But then after I only had time for my daily work - included my addicted watching of our family and reading this forum, of course
And now I noticed that I posted my comment without changing my pic
I will change soon

Welcome here Cara! :)
Please don´t change your picture just because most of the members have bird pictures in avatars. I think putting your own pic tells much about your brave personality and attitude. And I´ve seen also a few others here with their own pictures.
I also share your worries about the migration, many of the birds are shoot on their way to the South, it´s very tragic. :( I wish you pleasant times here in the forum! :)

[alice44]

Welcome here Cara! :)
Please don´t change your picture just because most of the members have bird pictures in avatars. I think putting your own pic tells much about your brave personality and attitude. And I´ve seen also a few others here with their own pictures.
I also share your worries about the migration, many of the birds are shoot on their way to the South, it´s very tragic. :( I wish you pleasant times here in the forum! :)

Cara I am with Starling use whatever image you want and don't worry what other people do. However, mine is normally a cat, but since this is a bird forum I chose a bird that people can hardly see. I stole your smiley so that I could have one.

About nature being not so natural, that is true and it ads lots of worries to the migration. With luck as we learn more, maybe humans will change our behaviours to make the human part not so dangerous -- here we are changing night lighting a little, to make migration less dangerous. Of course trying to understand what these birds need of nature and trying to learn how to help them, is part of the reason for this cam.

[Urmas]

Hi, Cara!
Actually I'd like to see real pictures in avatars, but its up to every one...
So your real avatar is fine! I have to find for me also some... if find some time.

We with Latvian colleague Janis are going to look after the nest site and if we are lucky, one of parents could get transmitter - sorry for this additional disturbing (we really know that any additional device on bird makes not much happier it), but only so we could see where they travel and what places might be dangerous.
From other side we want to know about the transmitters impact, it is only possible if we look together and express the results. If something will be not well, we can improve our activity in the future. Hope you all understand! At the moment we do our best.

[Wisteria]

Welcome here Cara!
Please don´t change your picture just because most of the members have bird pictures in avatars. I think putting your own pic tells much about your brave personality and attitude. And I´ve seen also a few others here with their own pictures.
I also share your worries about the migration, many of the birds are shoot on their way to the South, it´s very tragic. I wish you pleasant times here in the forum!

I agree, Cara, don't change your avatar on our account, you have such pretty plumage anyway!

I think the best thing about this osprey cam is that it puts a face (and wings) on the creatures who are so impacted by human affairs - pollution, habitat loss, climate change and sheer carelessness. I've only been watching here for a couple months but I've sent numerous emails with the link to other people, so they will see the beauty, grace and humility of these small creatures that only want to survive.

And the guys who climbed up the tree to set the nest and camera, then climbed up again to ring the chicks - they are heroes! And all the people who support them and even we who watch at home on our computers, expanding the message that we humans are not just spoiling our earth, we're spoiling it for every living thing and we have to work to change that.

How boring life would be without so many creatures of the air, land and sea, so beautifully going about the business of living - it would be a great tragedy to lose any of them, and it is a tragedy that we have already lost some, forever.

Okay you get the picture, I'm done preaching for the night.


Hi Urmas! Great work so far! Thank you!

[jopie]

Hi, Cara!
Actually I'd like to see real pictures in avatars, but its up to every one...
So your real avatar is fine! I have to find for me also some... if find some time.

We with Latvian colleague Janis are going to look after the nest site and if we are lucky, one of parents could get transmitter - sorry for this additional disturbing (we really know that any additional device on bird makes not much happier it), but only so we could see where they travel and what places might be dangerous.
From other side we want to know about the transmitters impact, it is only possible if we look together and express the results. If something will be not well, we can improve our activity in the future. Hope you all understand! At the moment we do our best.

Urmas, NO, please, NO transmitter. Ask the data you need from some other organisation who HAS done that already! Even if you have the data you can not change anything about their migration route.

[alice44]

Urmas, NO, please, NO transmitter. Ask the data you need from some other organisation who HAS done that already! Even if you have the data you can not change anything about their migration route.

We can make the migration routes safer.

And I am sure all the organizations share information -- on best practices and migration routes.

[meierlein]

We can make the migration routes safer.

And I am sure all the organizations share information -- on best practices and migration routes.

http://www.estlat.eu/european-cooperation-day/


I miss a worldwide-cooperation-Organisation

btw - where are the Forum-Users from Africa???

[jopie]

Maybe I started something but the cooperation about the data of these transmitters is not existent and I really hate to see something that looks like a radiographic navigable toy in the air. Again it is using our power as humans over a defenseless animal.


(although, I did not start it but tried to avoid it )

[Wisteria]

Wisteria you made me tear up.

Mission accomplished

[maroni]

Our youngsters.

When we look in their eyes, they seemed to be quite grown up.

[alice44]

Maybe I started something but the cooperation about the data of these transmitters is not existent and I really hate to see something that looks like a radiographic navigable toy in the air. Again it is using our power as humans over a defenseless animal.


(although, I did not start it but tried to avoid it )

Jopie without conflicting opinions and lots of questions we will not do better in the future.

[alice44]

They are so beautiful even though they blend in so beautifully to a bunch of old sticks.


Don't you just wonder what the danger is? Maybe a WTE stealing a fish from Madis or...