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At hectopod's request, here is a new topic.
Enjoy it!
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somebody better talk!
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Jo UK wrote:At hectopod's request, here is a new topic.
Enjoy it!
Hmm - Hectopod - is that 10 legs & arms? or one hecto of pods? Or ...? :book:
Google tries to convince me I want to know about octopods.
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I wonder what role google's suggestions have in shaping world inquiry.
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alice44 wrote:I wonder what role google's suggestions have in shaping world inquiry.
Not too much, I guess. They are explicit, you can use or refuse them. Irritating, yes, I would happily correct my spelling mistakes myself in exchange for not having my search terms queried ("do you mean ..."), but that is largely all.
Can't remember a single occasion when they actually were useful.
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About apples, particulalry Transparentes:

Hello, unp and others - hope you find your way here from
Alice's Oregon Summer - it would be a shame to flood it with even more apples.

unp, I thing the Beli Naliv, Papirovka et al issue today could be resolved with DNA analysis (same or different; how much related). If anything, the Papirovka description fits better with my Transparentes (grafts from Estonia + 1 tree bought in Sweden).

Where they came from - doubtful if it ever can be solved. Most of my books say, grown long before 1800 in Baltic states, Russia; exported to "major European states" (hmmm ...) from several tree nurseries at different times. One Swedish and one Estonian source, from the 1970ies, say that it would "now seem" that it came from the north of Estonia.
The "brought back with soldiers" origin is a classic with apples, indeed, plants. Of course it is true at times too. (For that matter, Swedish pomology started seriously with the marshals, generals etc. of the 30-year war bringing in all sorts of exotic apple varieties from continental Europe to their manors).
Synomym (?) names fill half a page. But they are from after it has started being described in literature.

The Swedish Pomological Society has an excursion on Sept 5, will see if I can get hold of somebody to ask about any recent investigations.
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I can't remember any details so I should keep my mouth shut but I think quite a few plants and information about their uses were brought back by soldiers or "botanists" with Alexander the Great's troops.


But seriously a lot of the soldiers of the modern period were farmers, so it makes sense they would pick up a good plant or two if they could.
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Liis wrote: Hmm - Hectopod - is that 10 legs & arms? or one hecto of pods? Or ...? :book:
Google tries to convince me I want to know about octopods.
Hi, this issue is too specific to be general, but I christened myself hectopod because the nickname bug was taken long ago. Hecto for six and pod for feet.

I love philosophy :)
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hectopod wrote: Hi, this issue is too specific to be general, but I christened myself hectopod because the nickname bug was taken long ago. Hecto for six and pod for feet.

I love philosophy :)
1- sorry to have de-valued you, of course hecto is 100 (was thinking in the wrong direction, 10 hekto -> 1 kg)
2 - a mix of many specific issues may add up to a general conversation? Mix all colours, get white
3 - six? I am lost
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Liis wrote: 1- sorry to have de-valued you, of course hecto is 100 (was thinking in the wrong direction, 10 hekto -> 1 kg)
2 - a mix of many specific issues may add up to a general conversation? Mix all colours, get white
3 - six? I am lost
Hmmm. The ancient Greek for six was 'hex' (anglicised transliteration), as used in hexagon.
100 was 'hekaton' (or hecaton), as in hecatombs.

In that 'hektaios' meant 'on the sixth day,' our Hectopod isn't far off being six-footed - but perhaps, if you want to 'nit-pick,' it might be Hectapod or Hexapod?? :geek:

Or otherwise, Hecatopod, the hundred-footed..... :ugeek:

Hectopod - please stick with your lovely name Hectopod! 8-)
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But hecto or hekto is the approved prefix for a 100 of something in the Système international d'unités. Which we of course take very seriously indeed.

Hekto as a measure of weight (= 100 grams) is actually quite widely used in cookbooks and for more expensive groceries at least in Scandinavia and - I think - Estonia, although it seems to be in process of being replaced by grams.
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(Where to put this? it isn't exactly "What's going on" at Looduskalender. And no wish to raise hopes about news about "our" LSEs - hopefully in some nice, warmer place - in the LSE forums)

Ülo Väli - who among many other things analysed Spot's DNA - will present a lecture on protection of LSEs in Tartu on December 3, at 2 pm.
Title: Head, pahad, inetud - Good, bad, ugly. Hmmm - is there a film title - The good, the bad, the ugly?

Anyone going to listen? - I would so love to know what the connection is!
(Haven't seen the film, BTW)
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Liis wrote:Ülo Väli - who among many other things analysed Spot's DNA - will present a lecture on protection of LSEs in Tartu on December 3, at 2 pm.
Title: Head, pahad, inetud - Good, bad, ugly. Hmmm - is there a film title - The good, the bad, the ugly?
Anyone going to listen? - I would so love to know what the connection is!
(Haven't seen the film, BTW)
Hello Liis, do you think about this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good,_ ... d_the_Ugly (incl. sound-track)
I haven't seen the film either, but the title-song was a real hit in the late Sixties.
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Leonia, I read that - and I lost my way halfway through the plot, and I am as curious and bewildered as ever about the connection to the LSEs. :puzzled:
Adssuming that it has to do with the film, that is.
To be sure they do some less than nice things, seen from a human point of view...

Please, Estonian members - surely someone will go to the lecture, or knows someone who will. Tell us!
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hello, a friend from the norfolk botanical garden chat (we enjoy hummingbirds as well) gave me the url of the estonian eagle cam, from there i blundered into the forum. i recognize a few names i've chatted with.

:wave: fleur

i watch many, many nests. also the migrating whooping cranes, owls, eagles, hummingbirds, falcons, osprey etc...and i record gigabytes of nest activity. i too have a forum where i list all the nests i watch and post recordings. i am not spamming you so will not post the url.

i notice members cannot begin a new topic? or am i just missing the button somewhere.

i hope everyone had a nice Christmas holiday and will have a wonderful New Year, my new year will be made more full by all these new cams to observe
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no -- we cannot add new topics.

In this socializing area there are several threads available where open discussions are possible and in the other areas threads are pretty much limited to talking about events of a specific web cam.

Feel free to ask -- here is fine -- if there is a logical place to talk about a given topic or send a message to JoUK to ask about opening a new specific topic thread.

Welcome here and I hope you enjoy the cams.
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:wave: ..and you are welcome lasher. Happy New Year to you too.
We all enjoy the webcams so if you have more to add,you can do so in
Other Birds and Animals viewforum.php?f=11
or in Camera links,here; viewtopic.php?f=14&t=58
Carmel a member of SHOW .. I hope you love birds too. Its economical. It saves going to heaven.
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thank you macdoum i have posted the url in the camera links topic...i have to go look at more of those Norwegian eagle photos now :rotf:
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lasher wrote:hello, a friend from the norfolk botanical garden chat (we enjoy hummingbirds as well) gave me the url of the estonian eagle cam, from there i blundered into the forum. i recognize a few names i've chatted with.

:wave: fleur

i watch many, many nests. also the migrating whooping cranes, owls, eagles, hummingbirds, falcons, osprey etc...and i record gigabytes of nest activity. i too have a forum where i list all the nests i watch and post recordings. i am not spamming you so will not post the url.

i notice members cannot begin a new topic? or am i just missing the button somewhere.

i hope everyone had a nice Christmas holiday and will have a wonderful New Year, my new year will be made more full by all these new cams to observe
oops :blush: I missed your comment about links to webcams -- around here the more links to webcams the merrier.
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firefox (mozilla) is sponsoring this webcam from the Knoxville zoo. Red Panda cubs, also known as firefoxes

http://firefoxlive.mozilla.org/?WT.mc_i ... c_ev=click
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