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Post by ame » February 12th, 2017, 11:32 am

a new case of highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N8 has been discovered in a WTE in Finland on Feb 9.
the latest sick bird was found in Eurajoki between the cities Rauma and Harjavalta.
https://www.evira.fi/elaimet/elainten-t ... -suomessa/

this was the 9th WTE found sick and died with the avian influenza in Finland. at the first glance one might think that the disease is raging among WTEs only. on the second thought i guess that it is likely that dead or dying WTEs are more easily found than smaller sick/dead birds. any dead animal is also consumed very quickly by scavengers in the wild. WTEs are so big that their carcasses probably vanish more slowly than the remains of smaller animals. this may cause strong bias in the sickness statistics.

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Post by Janne+Ais » February 16th, 2017, 5:30 pm

Sorry, only in German (and French?):

TV ARTE:
today (16.02.2017) 19:30 Steinadler - König der Berge Dokumentation Deutschland 2014
„Steinadler - König der Berge“ entstand in einem Zeitraum von drei Jahren und zeigt ausnahmslos wildlebende, ungezähmte Adler. Die Dokumentation begleitet das Erwachsenwerden von zwei Steinadlerküken in der Hohen Tatra, vom Bebrüten der Eier im April bis zu dem Zeitpunkt, wenn die Jungvögel im Juni den Horst verlassen. Tragische Ereignisse, wie etwa der Tod eines fast flüggen Kükens, und lustige Momente, wenn die Steinadlerküken in ihrem Nest Besuch von Maus und Schmetterling bekommen, machen diesen Film zu einem kurzweiligen Ausflug in die Baumkronen der europäischen Bergwälder.
Spektakuläre Szenen, wie Flugaufnahmen von einer Steinadler-Hochzeit oder der Kampf zwischen Seeadler und Steinadler an einem Riss, wechseln sich ab mit berührenden Einblicken in die Kinderstube der Steinadler. Die Botschaft des Films: „Steinadler benötigen weite, einigermaßen ungestörte Landschaften mit intakter Natur.“ Daraus folgt die Erkenntnis, dass der Fortbestand des Steinadlers auf unserem Kontinent auch von der künftigen Nutzungsform der europäischen Wälder abhängt. Der Wald ist eine wichtige regenerative Energiequelle. Aber quer durch Europa drohen viele alte Wälder zu Holzplantagen zu werden, in denen keine Adler leben können. „Steinadler - König der Berge“ erzählt vom Niedergang der Adler durch die unerbittliche Verfolgung durch den Menschen. Nachdem die Jagd im 20. Jahrhundert verboten wurde, bewohnen Steinadler heute wieder die Alpen, die Karpaten und die Bergregionen Skandinaviens. Eine Erfolgsgeschichte des Naturschutzes, so könnte man meinen. Aber bis heute haben es die Steinadler nicht geschafft, ihre Reviere im Flachland wieder zu besiedeln. Wird der „König der Berge“ eines Tages auch wieder über den Wäldern der Ebenen seine Kreise ziehen? Die Dokumentation möchte Werbung machen für den deutschen Wappenvogel, der unseren Schutz braucht und dessen Lebensraum vor der Ausbeutung des Menschen geschützt werden muss.

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Post by ame » February 24th, 2017, 1:44 pm

Janne+Ais :hi:
what species is this Steinadler? WTE or golden eagle?

then something else:
i read about this drone hunter in our local newspaper this morning but it's actually last year's news. the thing that struck me in the news was that the paper said that bald eagles are used in the Netherlands since last year for this purpose. bald eagles in Europe? :puzzled:

can anyone say what eagle the drone-catcher actually is? to me it looks like a young WTE (1st year). an adult bald eagle's picture also flashes in the video but is it only a 'decoration' there?


edit: it's a company that is training these eagles. i found their webpages:
http://guardfromabove.com/

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Post by Liz01 » February 24th, 2017, 2:58 pm

ame wrote:Janne+Ais :hi:
what species is this Steinadler? WTE or golden eagle?
it is the golden eagle / in german also Goldadler / Aquila chrysaetos

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Post by Janne+Ais » February 24th, 2017, 3:14 pm

ame wrote:Janne+Ais :hi:
what species is this Steinadler? WTE or golden eagle?
Look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_eagle

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Post by Owlie » May 3rd, 2017, 7:56 pm

I follow LK cams for sixth year and forums for fifth season.

I was told on one thread, that comments "off topic" will automatically be moved to "discussions thread". I don't find any such thread/topic?. No conversation or discussion topic seems to be for criticism ... If this is it, this is perfect for all responsible: no-one reads this! :banghead:

I just want to say that in my opinion more and more of the LK cam topics are occupied of a few very-very-active/happiness-addicted-posting persons. In a couple of years I find it uninteresting and boring to follow those 'occupied' topics, where the discussions like more fairy tales than interest in facts or information of birds' special behaviour or lives.

As a good example for a 'responsible' (eagle cam) topic I will mention the SWFEC chat roll, where the moderators 'educate' chatters with scientific facts all days through and they don't 'take part' of the chatters' emotions. http://dickpritchettrealestate.com/eagle-feed.html

I see also that some valuable acquainted members have "left the scene", among them some very informative and generous people, who had lots to offer for us amateurs - after that the fairy tales took over the scene.

But - the life goes on. Long live the good old times!

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Post by ame » May 4th, 2017, 6:42 am

Owlie wrote:I follow LK cams for sixth year and forums for fifth season.

I was told on one thread, that comments "off topic" will automatically be moved to "discussions thread". I don't find any such thread/topic?. No conversation or discussion topic seems to be for criticism ... If this is it, this is perfect for all responsible: no-one reads this! :banghead:

I just want to say that in my opinion more and more of the LK cam topics are occupied of a few very-very-active/happiness-addicted-posting persons. In a couple of years I find it uninteresting and boring to follow those 'occupied' topics, where the discussions like more fairy tales than interest in facts or information of birds' special behaviour or lives.

As a good example for a 'responsible' (eagle cam) topic I will mention the SWFEC chat roll, where the moderators 'educate' chatters with scientific facts all days through and they don't 'take part' of the chatters' emotions. http://dickpritchettrealestate.com/eagle-feed.html

I see also that some valuable acquainted members have "left the scene", among them some very informative and generous people, who had lots to offer for us amateurs - after that the fairy tales took over the scene.

But - the life goes on. Long live the good old times!
i believe that in the above (the first line which i bolded) you refer to the Juras-Erglis WTE-topic. there are both Observations topic and Discussions topic under that title. if i remember right you yourself asked several times to start a Discussions-topic there so it was started. it has been free for posting for well over a year. in addition, if i remember right, you have never posted anything in the Discussions-topic yourself although you wished to have such topic there. perhaps you never noticed the new thread? it's here:
viewtopic.php?f=99&t=819

i hope that the the second bolded line does not refer to the Juras-Erglis-topic. fairy tails are exactly the kind of material which is not needed in any observational topic.

but "fairy tales"? "happiness-addicted posters"?? i really don't know what you are referring to..? :puzzled:

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Post by Jo UK » May 4th, 2017, 11:39 am

Hi Owlie.
You are right - no-one reads this until there is something to read.

About Discussion - Observation topics: that was tried for a few seasons but the majority seemed to dislike having their posts moved from one place to another. Posts were difficult to find, moderators had too much work to do so now we are back to one topic per webcam, unless it is really necessary to split it.

About members leaving - well, they do. Some find something else to capture their interest. Some have life changes There are many reasons for leaving a forum. If you know of a member who left because of a fault in this forum then the matter would have been dealt with, had we known about it.
The Admins and Moderators on this forum are not, specifically, wildlife experts or teachers (with the exception of ame)
We are volunteers, enthusiasts and mostly amateur.
This forum is intended for enjoyment by all sections of the population, which includes academics, scientific, and the general population.
It is not the intention of Looduskalender to cater only to the scientific and academic community, but we do want to include them, too.
If you don't like the light-hearted chat that happens on any topic, don't read it. It will always be present. Instead, try to enjoy it :D
If you want to continue this discussion by PM, or here, please do.

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Post by Owlie » May 21st, 2017, 7:31 pm

It would be interesting to read statistics for example from past four years, how the members have attended the different threads - it should be quite easy to provide such figures in this data environment. I mean general data for example how many participants per nest per month/year etc.

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Post by ame » May 22nd, 2017, 7:17 am

there are many interesting statistical questions that could be studied using the data in the members' list. i once thought it might be interesting to know the geographical distribution of the members' home countries. it would be so nice to have a map of the world with a point for each member on it. then this map would be updated adding a new dot each time a new member would join the forum. :D

our webmaster has a "real" job, and on the side with it he does voluntary work for Looduskalender (like all of us). we don't feel that we can ask the webmaster to make any extra jobs or surveys besides the things he has to do in maintaining the forum work.

i think it would not be a very big task to make some statistics yourself using the board index. 4 years might be a too long period of time, but a few months should be within reach with a reasonable effort. the date and time of the latest post is shown on each topic. i'm sure there aren't too many active topics so that would reduce the number of topics to read backwards.

but i can think of some other, more interesting statistics one could make. i think that making records of for example the feedings at the black stork's nest would be much more interesting and also much more useful. Urmas would become happy if someone should make such statistics, with date&time, which parent brought what kind of food and how many items (the little fishes are difficult to count but one could try). it's not too late to start yet. there's still one more storklet to come! :laugh:

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Post by Liz01 » May 22nd, 2017, 9:24 am

ame wrote: but i can think of some other, more interesting statistics one could make. i think that making records of for example the feedings at the black stork's nest would be much more interesting and also much more useful. Urmas would become happy if someone should make such statistics, with date&time, which parent brought what kind of food and how many items (the little fishes are difficult to count but one could try). it's not too late to start yet. there's still one more storklet to come! :laugh:
I did this last year on the Latvian thread. Māris Strazds was interested to know, what kind of food animals, which nest materials and also mating incl time poor Ozols ... the times :mrgreen:

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Post by Owlie » May 24th, 2017, 5:15 pm

Liz01 wrote:
I did this last year on the Latvian thread. Māris Strazds was interested to know, what kind of food animals, which nest materials and also mating incl time poor Ozols ... the times :mrgreen:
Owlie's text removed. It was insulting and inappropriate.

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Post by Biker » May 26th, 2017, 4:20 pm

insulting? :slap: - no way!
All this stuff here is based on misunderstandings caused by google translate and similar.

... and members who are very present here do not want to annoy others.
Let us share our enthusiasm about watching nature per webcam.
Many eyes see more, many ears hear more and not to forget we also share knowledge.
http://pontu.eenet.ee/ - that's stupid, the same every spring: I want to watch a lot into the nests via web cams but the beautiful spring weather starts and it lures outwards into nature. Guess what option do I choose?
http://aktion-fischotterschutz.de/start.html
*Good news for otters and fishermen. Exit possibilities for otter from fish traps successfully tested.*

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Post by ame » July 7th, 2017, 9:05 pm

in Kuusamo, eastern Finland, a bear (estimated 2 - 3 years old) tried to steal a bag of empty beer cans from the terrace of a holiday cabin. a native Finn expelled the bear with a few powerful words. :mrgreen:
perkele and saatana are some names for Satan in Finnish and are known to be very powerful. :whistling:
between talking to the bear the man told his dog to stay aside. the dog obeyed the commands and eventually also the bear retrieved in the shadows of the forest, although reluctantly after being threatened with a broom.
in the news from YLE (the Finnish broadcast company):
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... F3-9711456

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Post by ame » October 18th, 2017, 9:53 pm

last weekend on Saturday Oct 14 an enormous flock of barnacle geese were spotted at a field in Elimäki (SE Finland https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elim%C3%A ... i.2008.svg)
birdwatchers estimated that about 300 000 barnacles stayed at the field. this number is about a third of the estimated total number of barnacles population in the whole world!
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Picture by Tuula Nironen

sorry about the size of the picture but there were SO many birds!
already on the day before about 150 000 barnacles were counted on the same field.
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9884001

here's another news with a video of the goose congregation:
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9884293

these are barnacles who breed in the Northern parts of Russia. they have so far been migrating on a route a bit to the East of Finnish territory. in recent years, however, the geese have changed their route slightly to the west and they are now migrating through SE Finland.
there's a map of their route on the same page.
pesintäpaikka = breeding areas.
talvehtiminen = wintering areas
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picture YLE news graphichs

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Post by balistar » October 19th, 2017, 10:09 pm

Ame, this is a breathtaking picture - thanks a lot.

I wonder how each of them find its place without collision :mrgreen:

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Post by Liz01 » April 1st, 2018, 8:21 pm

Drama in the bird park Marlow: Aviaries collapsed :shock:

Due to the heavy snowfall, all flight aviaries collapsed under the snow masses in the Marlow bird park on Saturday evening.
An estimated 50 animals are missing, including more than 30 Northern Bald Ibis, two snowy owls, three great grey owls, a white-tailed eagle, two black storks and several lories and budgies.
:cry:

http://www.ostsee-zeitung.de/Vorpommern ... ngestuerzt

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I am really shocked. The sea eagle pair was allegedly unable to fly. I hope they can fly. The black stork couple is from the zoo .. if it's true I do not know.
Snowy owls and great grey owls will enjoy their freedom... Maybe also the black storks. I would wish it for them. But in that bad weather it will be very difficult for them.

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Post by Hellem » April 1st, 2018, 10:30 pm

Liz :wave: , it's terrible :shock: , this snowstorm is coming to Estonia tonight

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Post by Liz01 » April 20th, 2018, 5:12 pm

20.04.2018

They still miss the two black storks and a lesser spotted eagle. They hope the birds will come back when they are hungry.
Many birds are died ...and many others are missing too. :cry:

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