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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: April 13th, 2012, 8:03 am 
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Tuuli calls Remo from time to time and from boredom she began to mend the nest...
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She is so cute! :loveshower:
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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Tuuli was away from the nest and returned at:
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She left again...
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...and returned with a twig...
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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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I have some news that may not please everyone.
I have heard that our server, EEnet - who donate their server space to looduskalender - are going to change all our webcam streams to the JW Player format. It is too much to maintain two different streams.

Some members are already having difficulty with the present use of JW Player That is going to increase soon.
Webmaster has suggested using RTMPDUMP which I don't know about.
I know we have some very knowledgable members here, so any help with this problem will be very welcome.
I will post this on other webcam topics.


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: April 13th, 2012, 10:18 am 
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Remo is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :loveshower: :loveshower: :loveshower:

I didn't can take a picture, my JW Player did tricks... :bash: ...but I saw them together! :loveshower:

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Jo UK wrote:
I have some news that may not please everyone.
I have heard that our server, EEnet - who donate their server space to looduskalender - are going to change all our webcam streams to the JW Player format. It is too much to maintain two different streams.


Don't panic!
We cannot do two different streams because of bandwidth limitations from nest site.
We will not change existing popular streams.

You can still use VLC with URLs like:
rtsp://193.40.133.138:80/live/konnakotkas
rtsp://193.40.133.138:80/live/tooni

Saving stream with ffmpeg to mkv format:
ffmpeg -i rtmp://193.40.133.138/live/tooni -acodec copy -vcodec copy tooni.mkv

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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:bow: If this will keep on working, I won't say a word again, as this works with VLC and thus has all what "we need", snapshot, video recording! BUT ... I just remind that the Nova stream died after a few days ...

I do understand the situation behind the change, but I guess I don't speak only for myself, if I say I (we) would like to keep on with collecting snapshots and videos, which, after all, are also for Looduskalender!

In any case, thank you for the rtsp stream and PLEASE, let it not die! :2thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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so many good news - but THIS is the best of all of them


Another season with Tuuli and Remo :loveshower:

Thank you all for first videos and pics


Where is it EXACTLY? (need it for local temperature ;) )

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Mutikluti wrote:
Remo is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :loveshower:

I didn't can take a picture, my JW Player did tricks... :bash: ...but I saw them together! :loveshower:



I saw them, too .... but it was like the picture was frozen for a moment and then they were away .... :bash:

But now I´m using the rtsp-adress from Urmas for VLC ...

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Jo UK wrote:
I have some news that may not please everyone.
I have heard that our server, EEnet - who donate their server space to looduskalender - are going to change all our webcam streams to the JW Player format. It is too much to maintain two different streams.



It's a very bad news to me :( I bought and used Replay AV for saving streams before. It was a very comfortable way for saving the streams. I can shedule my saving with it, and I can edit the saved files later. Replay AV was working wery well with the old streams, but cant work with new URL-s, as I see now :(

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Hello! :hi:

I saw Remo, too. But it was just a picture while cam is loading. This picture is from last year, also two eggs seen. But if you really saw them live, can you say a time at what this happen, maybe pontu have pictures? :rolleyes:
And this link for camera isn't working for me: rtsp://193.40.133.138:80/live/tooni. I opened it with VLC but it isn't working :cry: . Also I can't take pictures with VLC, I'm using Fraps and it works only on Windows Media Player :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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I can´t find Tuulis and Remos camera. Please :help:


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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:hi:

http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/tooni.html


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Thanks a lot :wave:


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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:faint: What a lot of problems.

If you don't need or want to see the cam in VLC player, the address is: http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/tooni.html
For me it works in VLC, you have to be patient, it takes a bit longer to open, but it does (did at work, does here at home where I am already by now): rtsp://193.40.133.138:80/live/tooni

Snapshots: VLC can make them, there is no external program necessary. ONLY - there is a new version out, 2.0., 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 - I think the 2.0.2 is a beta, not yet fully published - they can't make snapshot using "jpg" - only using "png"! Those things can be adjusted in "Preferences" / Video! I think Videolan is working on the problem!

And great news - Remo also arrived! :loveshower:

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From yesterday work Latvian LSE cam. Two eagles seen at the nest yesterday 12:37. It is a new nest and these eagles no name yet.

mms://wm.tiesraides.lv/lu1


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Thank you Felis! :wave:
VLC already works for me, only need to wait much until it loads. Now i'm learning how to take snaps fast :2thumbsup:

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Felis silvestris wrote:
:faint: What a lot of problems.

If you don't need or want to see the cam in VLC player, the address is: http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/tooni.html
For me it works in VLC, you have to be patient, it takes a bit longer to open, but it does (did at work, does here at home where I am already by now): http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/tooni.html

Snapshots: VLC can make them, there is no external program necessary. ONLY - there is a new version out, 2.0., 2.0.1 and 2.0.2 - I think the 2.0.2 is a beta, not yet fully published - they can't make snapshot using "jpg" - only using "png"! Those things can be adjusted in "Preferences" / Video! I think Videolan is working on the problem!

And great news - Remo also arrived! :loveshower:


And what can I do with my Replay AV. The user guide say:

"Stream Capture (Replay A/V only): This option records MP3, Windows Media and Real streams directly from the network source. This works for most (but not all) audio and video sources."

It's a not too cheep, but a very intelligent software for catching streams, but Replay AV which can work with a lot of streams, can't work with the new streams. Can you recommend another intelligent software, which can sheduling my stream capturing, and can edit and split the files in the end, or who can give me some advices how to use Replay AV capturing the new streams. If somebody can help me thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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And what can I do with my Replay AV. The user guide say:

"Stream Capture (Replay A/V only): This option records MP3, Windows Media and Real streams directly from the network source. This works for most (but not all) audio and video sources."

It's a not too cheep, but a very intelligent software for catching streams, but Replay AV which can work with a lot of streams, can't work with the new streams. Can you recommend another intelligent software, which can sheduling my stream capturing, and can edit and split the files in the end, or who can give me some advices how to use Replay AV capturing the new streams. If somebody can help me thanks in advance.


That was actually our problem ever since they introduced the new stream at the Nova cam (winter feeding place for eagles). And that's the reason why all of us were somehow a bit affected by the news about all cameras changing to the new kind of stream. If, what Urmas Lett wrote a bit further up, the stream also is in rtsp (whatever that is, I am a computer non-professional), it is possible to view it in VLC! Which is actually, I think, what we people around here, all would prefer, as VLC has the snapshot function inbuilt and it is possible to record, no need for other external stuff or snipping tools etc.
Maybe somebody knowing more about streams, catching and recording them, has an idea, if and how your Replay AV would work with it?

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Hello! :hi:
I saw Remo, too. But it was just a picture while cam is loading. This picture is from last year, also two eggs seen. But if you really saw them live, can you say a time at what this happen, maybe pontu have pictures? :rolleyes:



PAH !!! So it was probably a fake by JWPlayer :bash:

Let´s hope to see them both in reality soon :shake:

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Felis silvestris wrote:
If this will keep on working, I won't say a word again, as this works with VLC and thus has all what "we need", snapshot, video recording! BUT ... I just remind that the Nova stream died after a few days ...


Use the source, Luke!
You can easily guess URL from JW Player page source.

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