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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 8:26 pm 
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21.23 Tuuli arrived. :thumbs:
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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 8:29 pm 
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First bed is made - how is it looking here? 8-)

Oh, and before I forget, nice to see you back, Bubo! You were missed already! Hope you had a nice holiday!

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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First bed is made - how is it looking here? 8-)

That was my idea too :mrgreen: ..

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 8:35 pm 
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Blurred images, bad webcam tonight.
Tuuli moves twigs.

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Good evening, it's 20h35( 8h35 pm). I eat dinner :)

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Tuuli&Stephi :offtobed: , the mole is left for tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 8:46 pm 
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:loveshower: Thank you again to all of you for the gorgeous pictures we see
usually I watch these birds from france where I live and right now I am in canada and it is so pleasant to watch them again so far from my house
i don't understand where you find pictures when you say it is from "pontu"
there is a place from video and pictures are "stored" ?? i just know the web cam

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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I do hear that strange noise again, today. :puzzled:

Sylvie - the Pontu pictures are kind of an archive, the camera (or an extra camera?) makes on still photo of the nest every minute.
Unfortunately, in one minute a lot can happen, like that attack on Wednesday, the attacker is not on a single of them! Just looking at them you keep wondering what happened that Stephi was standing like that on the nest!

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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:loveshower: Stephi has a wonderful mom-and dad :) love them all!!! :loveshower:


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2 video's from this evening

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Stephi "queen of the forest" and wings-exercises


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Nice tail feathers on the beginning and the end of the video (especially for Lussi05)


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Felis silvestris wrote:
I do hear that strange noise again, today. :puzzled:


It was there sometimes in the afternoon, too. Sounded a bit like a quacking frog ... but was gone again.

Stephi was breathing long times with beak open on this hot day .... maybe there is a correlation ...? :puzzled:

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2 video's from this evening
20:18h
Stephi "queen of the forest" and wings-exercises
19:54h
Nice tail feathers on the beginning and the end of the video (especially for Lussi05)

Very nice video you made for me Manu, thank you :thumbs: :laugh:
(And the first one too of course)


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
PostPosted: July 29th, 2012, 9:48 pm 
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Felis silvestris wrote:
I do hear that strange noise again, today. :puzzled:


It was there sometimes in the afternoon, too. Sounded a bit like a quacking frog ... but was gone again.

Stephi was breathing long times with beak open on this hot day .... maybe there is a correlation ...? :puzzled:

Kalev made exactly the same sound today, it sounded just like a frog. And he breathed with his beak open almost all day too.

22:05 - Stephi had to go, and stretched her wings, before bedtime..
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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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The noise in the afternoon I heard too, if I'm not wrong, it was a bit different, and I thought this might be the heat and breathing with open beak. But she makes a sound impression on the whole, so I am not too worried. Bronchitis sometimes leaves such breathing problems, maybe also in birds? But then, it will hopefully be gone by the time she is ready to leave the nest!

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Lussi05 wrote:
Bea wrote:
Felis silvestris wrote:
I do hear that strange noise again, today. :puzzled:


It was there sometimes in the afternoon, too. Sounded a bit like a quacking frog ... but was gone again.

Stephi was breathing long times with beak open on this hot day .... maybe there is a correlation ...? :puzzled:

Kalev made exactly the same sound today, it sounded just like a frog. And he breathed with his beak open almost all day too.


Lussi :hi:
I´ve read what you heard from Kalev - it must have been quite similar!

@Felis
Maybe some things go away when the birds are growing - hopefully!

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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I rarely write, but often looking at the Stephi. And I think that her breathing due to the fact that she eats the food completely, and not in parts. And maybe pinched crop the respiratory tract.

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I wish everyone a very good night. I love all the pic and video's that everyone postes.. Stephi has the best mom and dad.. see everyone on monday here in the forum. :gathering:


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Stephi is chirping and looking at that blasted mole.


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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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Hi ame :wave:

I believe it was a goshawk, too. They are very difficult for me to identify, especially the differences between countries, then male vs female and goshawk vs Cooper's Hawk and then juvenile vs adult. These two have always been a problem for me when IDing, even though I have so many birding books and worked with some raptors at a rehabber in the US a long time ago.

I did notice that all photos I have seen of goshawks that are killing other birds is that they flip them over on their back and stand on them, just like that one did with Stephi. I don't know for sure what Cooper's Hawks do for sure. I believe I had a Cooper's Hawk in my yard, killing a bird this past spring. I have photos but they are pretty blurry.

Maybe it thought Stephi was too big or too much of a problem (with her fighting and screaming back at it) or maybe it was young and inexperienced. I just hope it stays away and does not come back!! :nod:

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No, not the first one. I am still not convinced that's a goshawk, as we do have them here in the states. It was the other one I wanted to see but I guess it wasn't a threat or another raptor so that's good.

I am sure there could be differences in markings on each species from one country to another just like there are with barn owls.

Here's some photos of goshawks - the first one is from Romania and an adult. Then I will post a few of cooper's hawks. I am not seeing this bare leg on the one that attacked Stephi and that is why I am looking on the net right now.

hi Chimega :hi:
the hawk that attacked Stephi had bare legs. actually they can be seen rather clearly in Susie's original picture
(viewtopic.php?p=156550#p156550 ; i'm getting more and more amazed about the quality of her picture! i thick Susie should by a lottery ticket, as she was so lucky here! :laugh: )
the bare feet can also be seen in the pictures which i took later frame by frame from the video provided by Urmas Lett. the screenshot are in this P-bucket album:
http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss54 ... 4QQtppZZ16

i have also been frustrated by the diversity of the differents looks of goshawks in pictures which i have found for Accipiter gentilis.
(i've also :banghead: myself several times for not taking with me to the country the raptor guide which i bought a year ago (a quick flash: The Raptors of Europe and the Middle East: A Handbook to Field Identification by Dick Forsman). there i would find descriptions of all raptors of Europe in all possible costumes... now i'll get my hands on that book next week...)
i think that vainamoinen is convinced that the attacker was a goshawk and he knows birds (and especially raptors) best around here when the Real Specialists like Urmas Sellis are absent.

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 Post subject: Re: Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Tuuli & Remo
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The Mole is gone so Stephi must have eaten it.


7:15

Remo delivered a good sized Vole and Stephi swallowed it.


Earlier in the season Remo brought lots of little tiny voles, or maybe some kind of small mouse creature -- recently I have seen bigger voles.


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