Estonian LSE Nest Discussion 2012 ~ Eha & Koit

Starling · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 2:58 pm

Maxie4Paws wrote:

Good Morning / afternoon. I just came from his nest and he must be on a branch as i do not see or hear him. he is just wanting to see the world. does anyone know when he should leave the nest for good and will be migraite with the rest of the young ones.

It seems like Kalev has left the nest and the tree this morning. It is possible he won´t return to the nest anymore.

Tonia · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 3:20 pm

My fried saw him yesterday at 12.50 flying away. I didn't believe her :blush:

, but now I see, she was right.
Bye Kalev! Have a good journey! :wave:

vainamoinen · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 3:34 pm

aita wrote:

alice44 wrote:

About that prey
I think the tail is the most important determinant between the weasels and the stiff old tail was difficult to tell much about. :faint:

(poor creature)

:offtobed:

from my book about Estonian wildlife
kärp ja nirk: Mustela ereminea et nivalis
Mustela ereminea-hermelin (lumikko, kärp)- 16-29cm, 100-450g
Mustela nivalis- weasel (kärppa, nirk)- 15-25cm, 70-130g
(I put the names in finnish and in estonian too, because there is always confusion between these two relative languages. Exactly the same or similar words, but a completely different or the same meaning.)

Both have with white belly brown summer coat and a white winter coat. Hermelin (stoat) and weasel are very similar between the animals of the same diet and habitat. Appearance can discriminate between them by the tail tip. Hermelin tip of the tail seems to be dipped in black color pot, which becomes particularly pronounced in winter white fur coat. But a weasel tail is same color as the rest of the body. There is also a stoat larger, although not significantly, rather than implicitly. Stoat and weasel have spread all over Estonia and is a regular anywhere.
Already in ancient times, has been to say: if there is a hermelin or weasel may be domestic cat to sleep peacefully, because mice are not more concerned about.
Pontu picture 10 august 16-59 tip of tail seems brown.

Pontu picture 10 august 18-39

I also remember, that 2009 they eat at least 2 weasel and when the season was over then one weasel came to inspecting the nest.
(Koit old nest about 50m or 70m away).
Maybe Kalev spend some time at Spot nest too

Mik's parents this year have brought to the nest about 5 weasels. They would probably have extirpated a whole weasel family.

Dadel · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 3:43 pm

Kalev>have a save journey! :chick:

Good luck

Yoko · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 4:17 pm

Good luck, beautifull Kalev, bye bye !
:wave:

macko50 · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 5:44 pm

11:04 Eha in the nest.

Is it a normal thing that is no any connection between Eha and Kalev after Kalev flew away only 3 or 5 ours ago?

tweed · **Joined:** July 12th, 2012, 6:22 am **Posts:** 124

macko50 wrote:

11:04 Eha in the nest.

Is it a normal thing that is no any connection between Eha and Kalev after Kalev flew away only 3 or 5 ours ago?

I read once he fledges (flies away) he will stay with parents for 3 weeks to learn how to hunt.

macko50 · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 6:03 pm

tweed wrote:

macko50 wrote:

11:04 Eha in the nest.

Is it a normal thing that is no any connection between Eha and Kalev after Kalev flew away only 3 or 5 hours ago?

I read once he fledges (flies away) he will stay with parents for 3 weeks to learn how to hunt.

I have the same problem. Only after 3 or 5 hours after fledging Eha didn't know where is Kalev. Parents and chicks are very loud usually, but now there was a big silence in the nest for one hour.

Starling · **Posted:** August 11th, 2012, 6:06 pm

I think Kalev and his parents have been very quiet all the time. At least compared to the other 2 LSE nests.

I´m going to keep the camera open... just in case. :peek: