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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
PostPosted: June 3rd, 2009, 6:31 pm 
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Oh - this big dark prey is gone - so quickly!

About younger one - hate so say that but it's fate depends from one more thing (besiders weather and Eha’s way to treat it)
I searched a web today and found out about C a i n i s m - Cain and Abel syndrome - the killing of a nesting bird by a nestmate, always the first and oldest bird. It is most dramatic in eagles, especially Aquila.
http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Jun/msg00013.html

Here is a bit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf

Of course it doesn’t happen every nest - but it’s likely, and evidently Nature has it’s own reasons for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
PostPosted: June 3rd, 2009, 6:32 pm 
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Eha is digging in the nest and re-arranging the green twigs before settling down again.

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Did it ever happen that both chicks killed each other like the sons of Oedipus?(no idea how to call it)


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Sulev made a delivery. Eha ate it straight away.!! Eha, you are supposed to keep
SOMETHING for feeding. :protest:

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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asteria wrote:
Did it ever happen that both chicks killed each other like the sons of Oedipus?(no idea how to call it)

? fratricide.

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Maybe Eha is chewing food for littleones.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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21.12

Feeding the chick, can´t recognize which one

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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yarko wrote:
Oh - this big dark prey is gone - so quickly!

About younger one - hate so say that but it's fate depends from one more thing (besiders weather and Eha’s way to treat it)
I searched a web today and found out about C a i n i s m - Cain and Abel syndrome - the killing of a nesting bird by a nestmate, always the first and oldest bird. It is most dramatic in eagles, especially Aquila.
http://dml.cmnh.org/1998Jun/msg00013.html

Here is abit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf

Of course it doesn’t happen every nest - but it’s likely, and evidently Nature has it’s own reasons for that.

Given that Eha seems to sometimes eat instead of feeding Spotlet #1, Spotlet #1 might end up rather hungry at some point. I guess we will learn...


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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I have missed everything but i so happy that the second egg hatched :loveshower:
Now I hope both chicks will survive

Both chicks were just feeded and Eha did a good job, little pieces each time :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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I missed the feeding -- I was looking at my excel spread sheet.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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This is Spot with egg in the morning, alone and with Eha about 9:45 :D

It is so little yet..

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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These are my best pics of the second Spot in the evening at 19:22 an 19:23

:laugh: what tiny but brave it is

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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yarko wrote:
Here is a bit more about Cainism w i t h i n t h e L e s s e r S p o t t e d E a g l e s p e c i e - seems like reliable source of information- scroll a bit down to see the Introduction -
http://www.raptor-research.de/pdfs/a_sp ... ainism.pdf


yarko, thanks for posting that link :2thumbsup: - that professional article was also recommended to me. The Introduction (and actually, all of the paper) is very interesting. I read the paper, but could not find the link this morning.

(and there are some nice color pictures of spotlets in there, too)


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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I believe if both get food enough they will be soon the same size..

1 The first Spot in the morning :chick:
2 The second Spot in the evening..actually there are both Spots :chick: :bounce:


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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So Spot Senior looks to be white and Spot Junior is grey, at the moment.

Yarko and bociany, thanks for the Cain and Abel information.

Oh well, wait and see.


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Pictures from earlier feeding at 21.12

First got some food younger eaglet:

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And then older eaglet:

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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And now, when I watch those pictures, not quite sure who was who?

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Good evening Everybody !

I have made a video about today's last feeding.

The very interesting part is the middle of the video.

Please watch it in HQ mode!

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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Article about this nest on LK
http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/4114


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 Post subject: Re: Lesser Spotted Eagle Webcam Discussion
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Thank you George.
It looked as though both chicks are being fed!


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