Estonian white-tailed sea eagle nest camera 2018

[Chinook]

I think the female should be called Estonia i think that sounded good :)

[Marfo]

personally i'd go for something related to the female's dark eyes as this is her key identifying feature (for me). cleopatra is nice but atropiine is more intriguing. i'd go for atropiine.

Yes, a nice name, I agree, but a bit too long for writing I think. 4 or 5 letters without accents would be perfect.

[Hellem]

The Urmas's article has already translated into English, thank you Liis

White-tailed eagle nest residents
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/en/node/2206

[Liz01]

The Urmas's article is translated into English, thank you Liis ........

Thank you Hellem and Liis

[Trine]

The Urmas's article is translated into English, thank you Liis

White-tailed eagle nest residents
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/en/node/2206

Ah, good! I was about to reply Marfo's post on the previous page.

As of January 1, 2017, seven (7) women in Estonia were called Suvi: http://www.stat.ee/public/apps/nimed/
Atropiine would be totally original

[laranjeiras]

13.42:57 male arrives


13.45 he leaves

[Hagnat]

Hagnat , yes, Suvi is used as a female name in Estonia

But how can a foreigner tell what is a male or female name in the weird Estonian language? My lanuage skills are pretty good, but Estonian is very alien to me.

[Hellem]

But how can a foreigner tell what is a male or female name in the weird Estonian language? My lanuage skills are pretty good, but Estonian is very alien to me.

As well as all the other countries' names, ask the inhabitants of this land, as you just did

[Michi]

Atropiin, the Estonian form of Atropine.
Atropine is used to enlarge the pupils, famously used by Cleopatra. Named after Atropos, one of the three goddesses of fate in Greek mythology. An alternative name could be Cleopatra.

yes, the name comes from that goddess you have written, Hagnat. But Atropine is also a well known poison, very toxic. It comes for example from the plant Atropa belladonna. The extract from the A. belladonna was used hundreds of years ago by women for their eyes.
For me the word/name Atropine is only an association to poison. So, I'm sorry, I don't think it's a suitable name for Black Eye.

[Rita]

Liis: Thank you so much for the translation.

Whenever Urmas writes something, it is important enough, otherwise he would not bother (if I may say so). If he thinks that the male is Sulev, then he has his reasons.

I am a lay(wo)man what concerns birds, but I thought that the difference in eye colour is really blatant, I believe that the female might have some sort of unusual pigmentation. The difference between Ana and Uku's eyes (although they had an age difference as well) was not so marked.
Furthermore, the male did not have a problem with the camera lens at all. He seemed very confident, detached and wise. Like an aged eagle.

Just my 2cts.

[Hagnat]

But how can a foreigner tell what is a male or female name in the weird Estonian language? My lanuage skills are pretty good, but Estonian is very alien to me.

As well as all the other countries' names, ask the inhabitants of this land, as you did

It is not about knowing but about recognising. Every new visitor of this forum who understands English knows what a female is but not everyone understands that a Suvi is a female, unless they ask. Remember that this is an English-language forum with very many non-Estonians.

[Liz01]

The dose makes the poison. Bella Donna is a medicinal herb.

[Summi]

My suggestion for a female name is Piia - a shortened form from "atropiin" but adapted to end in -a to sound feminine.

[Hellem]

...Every new visitor of this forum who understands English knows what a female is but not everyone understands that a Suvi is a female, unless they ask...

I'm sure all they can read

[Marfo]

My suggestion for a female name is Piia - a shortened form from "atropiin" but adapted to end in -a to sound feminine.

Nice! And short

[Piritta]

How about Suzanna? There is a pretty flower with "black eye", Thunbergia alata. In Finnish it is called "mustasilmäsusanna" (Black-eyed Susanna). In Estonian I see that it is calles Suzanna. Or Susu or Suzi for short.

[Hellem]

14:29 Change, female flew away and Sulev arrived
14:31 Alarm calls by Sulev

[Timea]

14.29 pm: Calling for Sulev to take over

She leaves

Sulev arrives to take the next shift

[Michi]

Bella Donna is a medicinal herb.

That is indisputable. But Atropin is acutely poisonous, that's a fact.
For that reason in my opinion the name for an eagle is unfavorable.

[Marfo]

In this example it is clear that the Estonian language is hard to translate with the Google Translate logic. The translations have opposite meanings. Is it a multi-interpretable language?

Urmas:
"Pole siiski võimatu, et sel linnul on mingi pigmendihälve ja enam tumedat ei viita noorele eale?"

GT:
However, it is impossible that this bird has a pigmental deviation and darker than the young one does not point to the young age?

Translation Liis:
It is however not impossible that this bird has some kind of pigmentation deviation and the preponderance of dark colouring does not indicate youth?