Golden Eagle Webcam Nest 2021

A webcam on a Golden Eagle Nest in Soomaa region
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10:54 What is wrong with the stream? I can only scroll back two minutes... :unsure:
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Hellem wrote: April 5th, 2021, 10:56 am From chat: ornithologist Gunnar Sein wrote:
​Dear Liznm and others - I will try to explain soon today such behaviour in forum
Hellem, Gunnar Sein, thank you very much. :2thumbsup:
I'm glad! I myself have no idea what it all means.
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:rant:
There is no shortage of food now, new migrants arrive everyday.
Me thinks of disturbance by photographers :evil:, eagles thinks "-this is not a safe place"
Helju ate the egg so the ravens won't get it.
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How sad, no offspring this year.
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The Estoanian Golden Eagle population productivity is rolling by 3-years cycles. First year cycle is lowest productivity, second is middle and third year is highest. Such 3-years cycles are very concrete. This year (2021) is the bottom of the cycle. We don't know exactly what kind of factor(s) can cause the productivity cycles here in Estonia, but from the literature it is known that normally these kind cycles are caused by prey abundance. So at the beginning I was really surprised that Helju and Kalju are this brave pair who could "win" the nature rules and will grow up a new juvenile. Right now I don't have any explanation that they (probably Helju) got additional amounts of new information through the first part of the laying period which convinced them (her) that they might be in serious problems later in June or July.  So according to their instincts came a "decision" to not continue the egg laying. I'm  absolutely sure that Helju is a smart and experienced Golden Eagle lady who acted in proper way as it is common in nature. Real nature is always very-very pragmatic. Definitely we were witnesses of a sad story, but on other hand we are lucky to see the behaviours that experts can normally only guess. I have followed Golden Eagles nestlife by trailcams for now 10 years in Estonia. Through this period I have had only two cases where eggs or 3 days eaglet "disappeared" within 20 minutes and the female is peacefully on nest. I suspected already then that probably the female is able to "correct" the breeding results, but I was not sure about this. Now we got it evidence kind of infanticide behaviour. 
Liznm and others passionate watchers - we appreciate highly your time, enthusiasm and valuable notes on what you made here in this forum!  Thank you once again! Without your emotions and feedback this webcam observing isn't as enjoyable as it is - no doubt!
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Gunnar wrote: April 5th, 2021, 11:43 am
Thank you! We desperately need explanations!
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Gunnar wrote: April 5th, 2021, 11:43 am The Estoanian Golden Eagle population productivity is rolling by 3-years cycles. First year cycle is lowest productivity, second is middle and third year is highest. Such 3-years cycles are very concrete. .....
Gunnar, thank you very much for your explanation! I appreciate it very much! :2thumbsup:
I thank you and Kotkaklubi for the opportunity to watch the nest events! These cameras are very interesting.
So we are patiently waiting for the next year!
It's going to be great! I hope so at least!
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Gunnar, thank you very much for the explanations. We humans are always learning new things from nature.
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13:00 Kalju? is calling

13:05 they call every now and then
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Today, the Nature Calendar/Looduskalender also describes these events (in Estonian).

Many thanks Liz01 and Tatyana!

https://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/5409

Let´s hope that next year it will be a wonderful season!
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Thank you very much, Hellem! for your tireless observation with time information! :loveshower: Without you, I would have missed a lot! :D
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Liz, You're welcome :D
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13:17 Helju landed on the curved branch. she is calling
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she is calling
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and landed
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She is looking in the empty nest bowl and is calling all time
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her ring is visible
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13:19 she went off
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13:17 visit by Helju


13:32 Helju is calling
13:33 she is calling

Looking back, I think the ravens couldn't take the egg because Helju was around! I was really amazed yesterday that they came to the nest but not to the egg. That was very unusual and suggests that they couldn't!
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Gunnar! :hi: Thank you so much! :dunno:
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sigge wrote: April 5th, 2021, 11:08 am :rant:
There is no shortage of food now, new migrants arrive everyday.
Me thinks of disturbance by photographers :evil:, eagles thinks "-this is not a safe place"
Helju ate the egg so the ravens won't get it.
Probably the egg was rotten. LSE female Grieta ate both eggs in 2009 too
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asteria :hi:
Please, don't speculate, read this:
viewtopic.php?p=786946#p786946
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17:43 It looks beautiful :innocent: It's enough for me to know that Helju & Kalju are fine :D
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:hi: Liz: I consent this - I am happy that Helju and Kalju are fine. That is enough for me, as well. :nod:

:hi: asteria: We should not jump to (human) conclusions just because we do not understand what these wise eagles know. Helju sure knew, something we humans miss. It is eagle realm and eagle knowledge and such is far from humanity. Thus I believe that the egg was not rotten.

:hi: Hellem
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