Black Stork Nests in Europe

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August 7
Hello everyone :hi:

PL Wolsztyn - https://youtu.be/tbyDWa3iWG0

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3 young storklets arrived to the nest (there are 2 chicks) and our female Skierka (Yellow) feeds all these (5) storklets :shake:

EDIT - video by KOO Kleptopasożytnictwo młodych bocianów czarnych. Wolsztyn / Kleptoparasitism of young black storks https://youtu.be/h7Xv51MvXrE

the fifth storklet
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PL Wolsztyn - https://youtu.be/twtI5e1n12

Skierka is there
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and our female feeds all these storklets
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PL Wolsztyn - https://youtu.be/twtI5e1n12

Skierka flies away
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and the 5 storklets after feeding
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there are videos by Pimu https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_SOqB ... oaw/videos
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Solo wrote: August 7th, 2021, 1:09 pm ...
3 young storklets arrived to the nest (there are 2 chicks) and our female Skierka (Yellow) feeds all these (5) storklets :shake:
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:hi: Solo .... thank you, I'm always happy to hear about Skierka (Yellow)!
Tell me, is that normal? They are probably young BS who have already left nest, right?
I've never seen anything like it.
Hopefully they will all get enough food :D
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sova wrote: August 7th, 2021, 3:35 pm... Tell me, is that normal? They are probably young BS who have already left nest, right? ...
:hi: Sova, :nod:

- some times we see that on WS nest, on BS I see that never
- information, videos are also under the stream
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In Dab nest in 2018 and 2019 one stranger storklet came and left for night, but I don't remember whether it was fed. Skierka is a great mom: while other parents get rid of their own kids, she fed the stranger ones! :loveshower:
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asteria wrote: August 7th, 2021, 5:54 pm In Dab nest in 2018 and 2019 one stranger storklet came and left for night, but I don't remember whether it was fed. Skierka is a great mom: while other parents get rid of their own kids, she fed the stranger ones! :loveshower:
you said that well, asteria :hi:
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asteria wrote: August 7th, 2021, 5:54 pmIn Dab nest in 2018 and 2019 one stranger storklet came and left for night, but I don't remember whether it was fed. ...
here you are:
03 Aug 2017 https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 64#p612264
20 Aug 2018 https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 94#p611994
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sova wrote: August 7th, 2021, 6:30 pmyou said that well, asteria :hi:
in terms of the survival of her offspring, it was a bad decision:
1 / only the older storklet is flying from her offspring so far - they need to receive even more food from the adult storks (than the visitors)
2 / instead of half a portion they had only fifths (and only in the case of the optimal variant; a foreign trio could eat everything)

in white storks I saw both tolerance and feeding, but also expulsion by the storklets themselves, but especially by adults storks

anthropomorphization isn't good way to understand animals behaviour
reading e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... ls-science
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Solo wrote: August 7th, 2021, 7:58 pm in terms of the survival of her offspring, it was a bad decision:
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Solo, my God, I know that!
But I was overwhelmed by the event.
I mean, I'm someone who keeps asking questions and likes to admit that I don't know something, but still, I don't need a teacher who stands behind me with the pointing finger raised ...
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sova wrote: August 7th, 2021, 8:15 pm
sorry Sova, so I misunderstood your answer to Asterie's words, I apologize for my post (unsolicited information)
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Solo wrote: August 7th, 2021, 1:09 pm ....3 young storklets arrived to the nest (there are 2 chicks) and our female Skierka (Yellow) feeds all these (5) storklets :shake:
the explanation should be very simple. They respond to begging and they cannot explicitly offer food to just the own chick.
And it shows that after they have fledged they will not recognize their young.
This is not the romantic behavior of a "good" mother" She is not the mother! And it seems she doesn't know.
That is also the reason why the superfluous chicks are thrown out of the nest, asteria! They can only spit the food into the nest, nothing else.
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Solo wrote: August 7th, 2021, 1:09 pm 3 young storklets arrived to the nest (there are 2 chicks) and our female Skierka (Yellow) feeds all these (5) storklets :shake:
asteria wrote: August 7th, 2021, 5:54 pm In Dab nest in 2018 and 2019 one stranger storklet came and left for night, but I don't remember whether it was fed. Skierka is a great mom: while other parents get rid of their own kids, she fed the stranger ones! :loveshower:
sova wrote: August 7th, 2021, 6:30 pm you said that well, asteria :hi:
Liz01 wrote: August 8th, 2021, 6:45 am the explanation should be very simple. They respond to begging and they cannot explicitly offer food to just the own chick.
And it shows that after they have fledged they will not recognize their young.
This is not the romantic behavior of a "good" mother" She is not the mother! And it seems she doesn't know.
That is also the reason why the superfluous chicks are thrown out of the nest, asteria! They can only spit the food into the nest, nothing else.
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She could just chase all the 3 strangers away and then feed the kids of her own but she did not. So it was her choice. Remember, how "kind" were Marushka&Honzik to the young fledged storklet Miro when it just appeared not even in the nest but nearby.
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PL DAB ŁÓDŹ
Yesterday our Florek was lucky all the breakfast that the parent brought was for him, Felek and Freezia yesterday left the nest around 9:00 so far they are gone, today the situation repeated again and all the food from Florentino was for Florek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTWuOhb2FXg - A video from Pimu from today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMOIxeJyizU&t=3s- A video from yesterday by me
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PL - Łodz, nest on the oak (gniazdo na dębie) - https://youtu.be/WZB4sFfazFk
- chicks: 22.05. + 23.05. + 24.05. + 25.05.
03.06. - brood reduction
Justyna wrote: August 8th, 2021, 2:21 pm PL DAB ŁÓDŹ
Yesterday our Florek was lucky all the breakfast that the parent brought was for him, Felek and Freezia yesterday left the nest around 9:00 so far they are gone, today the situation repeated again and all the food from Florentino was for Florek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTWuOhb2FXg - A video from Pimu from today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMOIxeJyizU&t=3s- A video from yesterday by me
thanx Justyna :thumbs:

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PL DAB ŁÓDŹ
The professor wrote that Freesia found itself yesterday at 23:55 near Lviv, there are no other signals
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August 09
Hello everyone :hi:

PL - Łodz, nest on the oak (gniazdo na dębie) - https://youtu.be/WZB4sFfazFk
- chicks: 22.05. + 23.05. + 24.05. + 25.05. 03.06. - brood reduction
Justyna wrote: August 9th, 2021, 12:42 pm... The professor wrote that Freesia found itself yesterday at 23:55 near Lviv, there are no other signals
thanx Justyna :thumbs: finger crossed very much!

here (Migration thread) https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 86#p822886

maiden flight
29.07.2021 12:57 Pierwszy lot Felka https://youtu.be/5BtmitHMObU
29.07.2021 13:14 Pierwszy lot Florka https://youtu.be/AEQKO5lAbfs
29.07.2021 18:39 Pierwszy lot Frezji https://youtu.be/kzT8cJ5ox0w

last seen on the nest
female Fermina:
Ostatnia wizyta Ferminy II - 24.07.2021 11:53
chicks:
Frezja odlatuje 07.08.2021 9:14
Felek odlatuje 07.08.2021 9:27
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PL DAB ŁÓDŹ
It is also worth adding that Finesse sent items from August 5. SMS came only today, so the Finesse logger works well, when he's in a good mood, Finesse is still near Plovdiv​ Information from professor P.Z
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PL DAB ŁÓDŹ
https://youtu.be/c52ufB7thTw
Florek is flying away or will he come back?
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