Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

[Jo UK]

Thanks Kiser.
That needs some study.

[Anne7]

These are pics from last season (2019), showing Karl II

[Jo UK]

Kiser, many thanks for the link

Here Kati is in front, Karl behind

This bird is not like Kati but rather more like Karl II. This is not a positive ID, yet.

[Anne7]

And this is Kati:

Picture posted by Liz


This is 3x Kati.
The marked part is not well defined. And not dark. It looks a bit messy, if I may say so...



Here we see Karl II on the left, and Kati on the right

[Anne7]

Here we see Kati on the left and Karl II on the right.


This is the BS that is currently on the nest.

[Michi]

Hello everyone,

so great that the cam is finally online! Many thanks, Urmas and friends!
And already a stork at nest!

After reading your discussion about the who is who, I agree, that it is for sure not Kati at nest. With Kati the black area around her eyes was never clearly defined. It was always blurred.

I'll make some extra pics...
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Above it's Annes picture from todays Black Stork.
Here is a picture from Karl II from last year, 03.04.2019.
This made me think that the stork from today can well be Karl II.

03.04.2019 Karl II

[sova]

good evening everybody

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This made me think that the stork from today can well be Karl II.
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....but then * hair * became a little more...
Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard.

[Michi]

....but then * hair * became a little more...

Why not? He is a year older now!

Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard.

You're absolutely right!

These are pics from last season 2019, showing Karl II
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Indeed here Karl II looks quite different than todays stork. But I have seen several times that the red area around the eyes of one and the same stork does not always look the same. It changes, can be bigger or smaller.
I hope that in time we will find out, if it's "our" Karl II.

[Michi]

Pictures from todays Black Stork. It's a bit of a pity that nobody saw his arrival, - his very first landing at nest. I wonder how many days he's been here.

[Anne7]

Maybe compairing their legs can help?

In 2019, Liz made this pic:
Legs in comparison.

(Female = Kati. Male = Karl II)

These are the legs of today's BS.

Hmm, not very useful I guess.
I was hoping that the dark spots pattern might give some clues.
This screenshot is not sharp enough.

[Anne7]

Indeed here Karl II looks quite different than todays stork. But I have seen several times that the red area around the eyes of one and the same stork does not always look the same. It changes, can be bigger or smaller.
I hope that in time we will find out, if it's "our" Karl II.

Yes.
And it also depends on the position of the head and on the light.

Pictures from todays Black Stork. It's a bit of a pity that nobody saw his arrival, - his very first landing at nest. I wonder how many days he's been here. :rolleyes :

Thanks, Michi.
Nice pictures.

Edit:
In your pictures the bird looks more like Karl II

....but then * hair * became a little more...
Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard.

[Michi]

Anne
Don't you think that the dark spots change every year?

[Anne7]

Anne
Don't you think that the dark spots change every year?

I don't know, Michi.
But Urmas once told us that the legs can help identify Black Storks.

[Jo UK]

I don't know, Michi.
But Urmas once told us that the legs can help identify Black Storks.

And the beaks!

[Liz01]

Karl II is picture by Anne. (he lower picture. Upstairs is today's stork) The beak shape is different.
Anne, I just don't find a picture that is really helpful. You may find a better pictures.


EDIT: I would also say let's wait for him to come back. Then we also know whether we are talking about a male or a female stork
Let's see if he sings.

I marked it. That would be a proof. We have to wait for daylight. Then we see if he has this light gap. The shape of the beak is unchangeable

[Crissy]

Maybe compairing their legs can help?
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Thank you Anne 7 for the pictures, I compared left leg from Karl and today`s stork, they look identical around the knee from 3 parts


But maybe i am also imagining things

[balistar]

everyone,


he just came in and: he is singing





two pictures from earlier:
- if someone can recognize him by the way he is pooping




- or by the way he is diving out the nest ?



(i know these are not criteria, just kidding )


I would say it's Karl II, but who asks me

[Liz01]

20:32 Arrival male

[Michi]

He sings! So he can well be Karl II.

Seconds after his arrival ...

[chrisitz]

diving out of the nest was typically for Karl II.