Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

Post by Jo UK » April 9th, 2020, 6:07 pm

Thanks Kiser.
That needs some study.

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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 6:08 pm

These are pics from last season (2019), showing Karl II

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Post by Jo UK » April 9th, 2020, 6:10 pm

Crissy wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 6:07 pm
Kiser, many thanks for the link :2thumbsup:

Here Kati is in front, Karl behind
This bird is not like Kati but rather more like Karl II. This is not a positive ID, yet. :puzzled:

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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 6:12 pm

And this is Kati:
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Picture posted by Liz


This is 3x Kati.
The marked part is not well defined. And not dark. It looks a bit messy, if I may say so...

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Here we see Karl II on the left, and Kati on the right
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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 6:21 pm

Here we see Kati on the left and Karl II on the right.
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This is the BS that is currently on the nest.
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Post by Michi » April 9th, 2020, 6:32 pm

Hello everyone, :wave:

so great that the cam is finally online! :D Many thanks, Urmas and friends! :thumbs:
And already a stork at nest! :loveshower:

After reading your discussion about the who is who, I agree, that it is for sure not Kati at nest. With Kati the black area around her eyes was never clearly defined. It was always blurred.
Anne7 wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 5:26 pm
I'll make some extra pics...
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Above it's Annes picture from todays Black Stork.
Here is a picture from Karl II from last year, 03.04.2019.
This made me think that the stork from today can well be Karl II.

03.04.2019 Karl II
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Post by sova » April 9th, 2020, 6:39 pm

good evening everybody :hi:
Michi wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 6:32 pm
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This made me think that the stork from today can well be Karl II.
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....but then * hair * became a little more...
Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard. :D

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Post by Michi » April 9th, 2020, 7:00 pm

sova wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 6:39 pm
....but then * hair * became a little more...
Why not? He is a year older now! :laugh:
sova wrote:
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Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard. :D
:rotf: You're absolutely right!
Anne7 wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 6:08 pm
These are pics from last season 2019, showing Karl II
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Indeed here Karl II looks quite different than todays stork. But I have seen several times that the red area around the eyes of one and the same stork does not always look the same. It changes, can be bigger or smaller.
I hope that in time we will find out, if it's "our" Karl II.

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Post by Michi » April 9th, 2020, 7:25 pm

Pictures from todays Black Stork. It's a bit of a pity that nobody saw his arrival, - his very first landing at nest. I wonder how many days he's been here. :rolleyes:

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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 7:30 pm

Maybe compairing their legs can help? :mrgreen:

In 2019, Liz made this pic:
Legs in comparison.
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(Female = Kati. Male = Karl II)

These are the legs of today's BS.
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Hmm, not very useful I guess.
I was hoping that the dark spots pattern might give some clues.
This screenshot is not sharp enough.
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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 7:35 pm

Michi wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 7:00 pm
Indeed here Karl II looks quite different than todays stork. But I have seen several times that the red area around the eyes of one and the same stork does not always look the same. It changes, can be bigger or smaller.
I hope that in time we will find out, if it's "our" Karl II.
Yes. :nod:
And it also depends on the position of the head and on the light.
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April 9th, 2020, 7:25 pm
Pictures from todays Black Stork. It's a bit of a pity that nobody saw his arrival, - his very first landing at nest. I wonder how many days he's been here. :rolleyes :
Thanks, Michi.
Nice pictures. :thumbs:

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In your pictures the bird looks more like Karl II :nod:
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....but then * hair * became a little more...
Now he reminds me even more of a fiery Spaniard. :D
:laugh:
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Post by Michi » April 9th, 2020, 7:36 pm

Anne :wave:
Don't you think that the dark spots change every year? :puzzled:

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Post by Anne7 » April 9th, 2020, 7:40 pm

Michi wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 7:36 pm
Anne :wave:
Don't you think that the dark spots change every year? :puzzled:
I don't know, Michi. :puzzled:
But Urmas once told us that the legs can help identify Black Storks. :D
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Post by Jo UK » April 9th, 2020, 7:48 pm

Anne7 wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 7:40 pm
I don't know, Michi. :puzzled:
But Urmas once told us that the legs can help identify Black Storks. :D
And the beaks!

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Post by Liz01 » April 9th, 2020, 7:53 pm

Karl II is picture by Anne. (he lower picture. Upstairs is today's stork) The beak shape is different.
Anne, I just don't find a picture that is really helpful. You may find a better pictures.
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EDIT: I would also say let's wait for him to come back. Then we also know whether we are talking about a male or a female stork :D
Let's see if he sings.

I marked it. That would be a proof. We have to wait for daylight. Then we see if he has this light gap. The shape of the beak is unchangeable
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Post by Crissy » April 9th, 2020, 8:02 pm

Anne7 wrote:
April 9th, 2020, 7:30 pm
Maybe compairing their legs can help? :mrgreen:
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Thank you Anne 7 for the pictures, I compared left leg from Karl and today`s stork, they look identical around the knee from 3 parts
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But maybe i am also imagining things :slap:

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Post by balistar » April 9th, 2020, 8:37 pm

:wave: everyone,


he just came in and: he is singing :headroll:

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two pictures from earlier:
- if someone can recognize him by the way he is pooping :laugh:

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- or by the way he is diving out the nest ?

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(i know these are not criteria, just kidding :laugh: )


I would say it's Karl II, but who asks me :laugh:

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Post by Liz01 » April 9th, 2020, 8:37 pm

20:32 Arrival male :laugh:
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Post by Michi » April 9th, 2020, 8:56 pm

He sings! So he can well be Karl II. :D

Seconds after his arrival ...
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Post by chrisitz » April 9th, 2020, 9:10 pm

:loveshower:
diving out of the nest was typically for Karl II. :innocent:

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