Black Stork Nest in Karula - 2018

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Eike wrote: June 28th, 2018, 10:06 am Good morn, who will like to explain for what birds must be measured and weighed,
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Good Morning Eike :hi:

To help sustainably, ornithologists need facts. Governments, in turn, want evidence that a species is in danger. You can only prove that with data.
It is important to know what nutritional status they are in. By this you can tell if their habitat is good. Many data are collected. Not only weight...
When an egg is found, it is examined for harmful substances. the same by dead storklets in the nest or at the ground.

Here you can read about other nest and the results till now:
Solo wrote: June 26th, 2018, 6:49 pm official translating (I wrote to Maris in comments)
A quick look at the state of the 2018 Black Stork nests
By the middle of June, 19 "live" nests have been checkwd. Of these, in three nests birds aren't nesting.
Of the 16 nests, 4 are very late (layed eggs or just hatched chicks) = very bad;
The remaining 12 captured chicks (3.34 chicks per nest), which are very good, the best successful nesting figures since 1979 (but the number of nests is still small, see also the previous row; the closest results has been in 2011. g - 3.27)
None of the live chicks was weak, which is also very good.
Eight of these nests already have 12 unhatched eggs (the worst year since 1979, considering that there are still ~ 65 nests to be checked out).
One of the successful nests is completely new, previously unknown and is the only second-ever nest found in Latvia, which is not in the forest, but is in the row of trees surrounded by agricultural land on the river's edge. Details sometime later.
Examined nests include two of our search campaigns - the nest in the Rēzekne district is unproductive, most likely disturbed by the nearby logging (a loader from the other side of the felling that was exported in April and early May), the nest in Sēlpils is successful, with 4 chicks.
Autors: Māris Strazds
Foto: no LDF melno stārķu tiešraides kameras (LDF live black stork stream camera)

(vanckari = unhatched)
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 74#p599174
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Liz01 wrote: June 27th, 2018, 7:44 pm Anne, :hi: Let us wait until Urmas has measured and weighed them. :whistling: Then we will know, if there is a big difference between the siblings.
Anne7 wrote: June 27th, 2018, 7:58 pm Liz, I probably have missed something in the conversation. :puzzled: Did someone say that there is a big difference between the siblings? ...
:hi: Anne7,
I am always confused, why here are time to time misinterpretation. Also now - Liz, aver (wrote) nothing about big difference

... camera view - position the storklets is changing, the changing feathers help who is who, but it is true, only the measuring and the weighting give exactly answer about the size difference (they are size difference within male and female storks, not big, but usually the female is smaller - you know)

but ... for me it is very interesting question, why they are nest (also WS), where within the 2 first hatched chicks and the third, firth (or 3 + 4., 5.) are all time size difference (also bigger, big) and another nest where they aren't or only very, very little (situation when with enough food delivery isn't problem)
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Eike wrote: June 28th, 2018, 10:06 am Good morn, who will like to explain for what birds must be measured and weighed,
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UteL. wrote: June 28th, 2018, 10:24 am other species:
Research under veterinary supervision
When finally a fairly mature pig is trapped - "an old boar would never fall into the trap," says Stillfried -, a veterinarian must be on hand to stun. Then it is measured, weighed and released after a health check by Kotprobe the coated pig.
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The question concerns birds .. rare birds
I think wild boar is not an endangered species. :laugh:
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"Our" Three magnificent specimens in the Karula National Park :D

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11:27 it is very hot in the nest.

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Eike wrote: June 28th, 2018, 10:06 am Good morn, who will like to explain for what birds must be measured and weighed,
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When ringing birds it is a good opportunity and often even obligatory to collect as much information about the birds as possible. Size, weight, condition and sometimes samples for Dna-analysis.
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Hagnat wrote: June 28th, 2018, 11:40 am When ringing birds it is a good opportunity and often even obligatory to collect as much information about the birds as possible. Size, weight, condition and sometimes samples for Dna-analysis.
hi Hagnat, exactly!

@Eike is safe for animal welfare. So no ringing, no transmitters?
"Send love in advance, and only then, touch!" Be sure Urmas is acting that way!

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11:53 Karl feeding :D
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11:53 Karl feeding

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12:00 chatter and one pooping into the nest :unsure: looks like it was number 3

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Swenja wrote: June 28th, 2018, 12:08 pm 12:00 chatter and one pooping into the nest :unsure: looks like it was number 3.
Dear number 3 - please don't poop on the table from where you eat! :headroll:
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13:22 they slide far into the nest edge for some shade.

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In the shadow :D

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Kati :D

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15:45 feeding Kati :thumbs:




That must have tasted good.
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15:57 is there someone knocking on the trees?

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UteL. wrote: June 28th, 2018, 11:50 am hi Hagnat, exactly!

@Eike is safe for animal welfare. So no ringing, no transmitters?
"Send love in advance, and only then, touch!" Be sure Urmas is acting that way!
best regards :wave:


ThY all :wave:

It is right my life's purpose is to do every possible thing for sister earth and all who are living on it. Therefore I would be more calm if Urmas would inform the storks in advance before mesuring and weighting.

2nd question: Are those birds ringed or weight who are counted by the so-called "red list" (auf der roten Liste)?
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Envoie d'adord de l'amour, puis seulement après effleure et touche.
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Eike wrote: June 28th, 2018, 4:20 pm ThY all :wave:

It is right my life's purpose is to do every possible thing for sister earth and all who are living on it. Therefore I would be more calm if Urmas would inform the storks in advance before mesuring and weighting.

2nd question: Are those birds ringed or weight who are counted by the so-called "red list" (auf der roten Liste)?
The Red List is led territorial. In D, the black stork 2018 is back on the Red List, as far as I know.

Estonia certainly has experts here who can answer that.

You speak German and French? Then the link may help:

https://www.protect-nature.org/infos-f% ... te-listen/

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Mr. Bauer, how is the Red List formed?

Hans-Günther Bauer: Field ornithologists and birdwatchers of all federal states count the birds in their regions and transmit the stocks and trend information to the umbrella organization of German avifaunists in Münster. The Red List Panel then determines from the prepared data the degree of endangerment of each species of bird.

Currently, the data query and collection for the next Red List begins again. The hazard classification for breeding birds is now being developed in a six-year cycle as part of the international reporting obligations for the EC Birds Directive. Although the last breed bird list was published in 2016, the next is planned for 2020. The Red List of Migratory Birds, which was first presented in 2014, will be available every twelve years in the future.

https://www.mpg.de/rote-liste-vogelschutz
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16:43 feeding Karl
(an airplane is circling over the forest)

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16:48 Danger, but what?



It is very restless in the forest near the little storks today. :unsure:
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Eike wrote: June 28th, 2018, 4:20 pm...
2nd question: Are those birds ringed or weight who are counted by the so-called "red list" (auf der roten Liste)?
Ringing has nothing to do with a list. Birds of any kind are ringed.
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