Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

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Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Post by Jo UK » March 24th, 2019, 6:14 pm

Welcome to another season of the Black Stork Nest camera in Karula National Park, in the South of Estonia.
While we wait for the arrival of Karl and Kati we can wait and watch on this link
http://pontu.eenet.ee/player/must-toonekurg.html

We can watch Karl's journey from South Sudan on the Birdmap http://birdmap.5dvision.ee/EN/
As Kati does not have a backpack tracker, her present location is unknown.

Description of the Black Stork nest project by Urmas Sellis, on Looduskalender
https://www.looduskalender.ee/n/en/node/3350

Introduction from last year's topic -

This Black Stork nest is located in Karula National Park which is probably the best breeding area for Black Stork in Estonia nowadays. It was found in February 2016 by Eagle Club nest searching camp.
Installing camera on the nest:

http://www.talgud.ee/lugu/must-toonekure

Karula National Park:
http://www.keskkonnaamet.ee/karula-eng/national-park/


These links are from last year so they may not be live yet, or they could be different this year. Keep checking!

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Post by Jo UK » March 24th, 2019, 6:16 pm

SIGNIFICANT EVENTS ON THE BLACK STORK NEST 2019

Video Archive
of the whole nesting season
Must-toonekurg archive 2019
http://193.40.124.24/2019-must-toonekurg/

There has been no data update from Karl since 29.3.2019, when he was in Syria.

2.04.2019 Previously unknown male arrived at the nest.
4.04.2019 Kati arrived. She accepted the new male immediately and they mated uncountable times.
This new male is named Karl II


FIRST EGG was seen at first light on 12. April, 2019
SECOND EGG seen on 14 April, 2019
THIRD EGG seen on 16 April, 2019
FOURTH EGG seen on 18 April, 2019

HATCHINGS
First Egg hatched 06.42. 16 May, 2019 https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 04#p656104
Second Egg 13.15.. 16. May https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 95#p656295
Third egg hatched 22.05. 16 May https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum
/viewtopic.php?p=656488#p656488
Fourth egg hatched at 09.28 17 May
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 19#p638919

MAY 23, 2019 INFANTICIDE
Having started with this brood of four chicks we now have to witness brood reduction. It can be distressing to view so visual images of the attacks on the smallest, fourth chick were kept to a minimum. Links to pictures and videos are kept here. Three chicks hatched on 16th. May. The fourth, smallest chick hatched on 17th May. Forum observations and discussion from page 95 to 110.
Links to pictures and videos -

https://streamable.com/ntzfh
https://streamable.com/5m7ry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rV3QpwrWzU
https://up.picr.de/35903468st.jpg

Anne7 wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 9:27 pm
I'm so very sorry to announce it.
At 20:59, Kati grabbed her youngest storklet by the head.
It was much worse than on May 21.

20:59:23-26 Page 95.
Image

JUNE 20, 2019

Attack by a goshawk, which knocked one of the young black storks from the nest.
https://i.postimg.cc/mgh2J6KX/MT.jpg

On June 22nd, Ain and Urmas visited the nest area and found a sad sight - the remains of the carcass left by the goshawk, Only follow this link if you are sure you want to see the remains.
https://up.picr.de/36098454hm.jpg

JULY 12
RINGING

Beginning on page 216 one can read all the somewhat unusual events of this year's ringing.
It was feared that the chicks may fall or fly from the nest. They did that.
Ringing was a little later this year as it was necessary to wait longer than is usual for ringing alone. This year both chicks were to have transmitters fitted so the development of plumage had to be considered, too.
It took some long time to locate the chicks on the forest floor and eventually they were found, quite safe.
Departure from nest - 14.58 Estonian time
Caught on the groud . 16.18.
On return to the nest we could see that the ring numbers are
716O (letter O, not number)
716A

A surprise was that one of the transmitters is a deep reddish brown.(716A) Immediately, it was clear that the chick with the black backpack (716O) thought that the red thing was an intruder and should be attacked. Even more worrying was that Karl II thought the same - he kept coming to the nest but flew off again after a few seconds.
By the next day normal life had resumed.

Urmas posted a report of the event on page 230

Edit 31. 07. 2019
Oru 7160 has metal ring with code A 16386.
Body weight during ringing 2605g, wing length 475 mm, bill 126 mm.

Aru 716A has metal ring A 16387
Body weight during ringing 2650g, wing length 462 mm, bill 126 mm

FLEDGING
July 22/23 the storklets made their first flight from the nest, later returning.
716O flew from the nest age 67 days.
716A flew from the nest age 68 days.

July 23. Kati seen on the nest for the last time this year.

August 4.. 80 days old.

About their ability to recognise close family members (p 269)
Visit wrote - was interesting, that Aru is begging to Oru - so i wonder how it is with the identification of each other or on the other hand the instinct to beg to other storks, even if it is a sibling...
Liz01 wrote - Also that they do not recognize each other at a certain distance, no matter if adult or juvenile.
Under stress, recognition becomes even more difficult (we saw it with Kati and Karl II)

MIGRATION
Oru departed on migration on August 10. age 87 days.

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Post by Jo UK » March 24th, 2019, 6:16 pm

To help us identify Kati and Karl II, here are some pictures showing the different markings around the eyes and upper beaks.

KARL II left side
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Right side
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KATI

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"Visitor" 2018 is Karl II

Image (Thanks to Hagnat)

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Post by Jo UK » March 24th, 2019, 6:17 pm

May 21, 2019

DNA data about last year's young Black Storks.

Päike - ring number 7161 Male
Karula – ring number 7162 Male
Maru – ring number 7163 Female

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Post by Jo UK » March 24th, 2019, 6:17 pm

KNOWN FACTS ABOUT BLACK STORKS.[/b
(in preparation)

solo p. 280
https://www.thespruce.com/birds-five-senses-386441



(see P 266)
Contributed by Anne7
In 2016, Urmas wrote:
"Chicks age at first flights depends on food abundance in previous stages in development. If we go back in years 2007-2011 then we see difference of first flight in weeks in the same nest. There may be different parents, but for sure the years are different for availability of food by parents. Our storklets were well fed by ringing time. According our Latvian colleague Maris Strazds better results are in surviving of the chicks which spend longer time in nest after fledging, means they return to the nest and step by step get independent, but are still getting food from parents in nest. Disturbance, what leads flying off the nest is negative for further survival. Therefore we are very much cautious in visiting the nests at late stage of breeding. Lets hope Karl will follow that hint to spread his genes firmly... Absence of Kati is not good in that context, though."

viewtopic.php?p=488921#p488921
Concerning the known diet of nestling black storks see posts by Solo, Liz, Anne on p.274

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Post by Anne7 » March 24th, 2019, 6:47 pm

Here is the beautiful nest! :headroll:
It is patiently waiting for Karl and Kati to arrive...

It survived the winter very well. :2thumbsup:

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Thank you, Urmas, for installing the camera.

Thank you, Jo, for opening the new topic.

Dear Karl and Kati, may your journey be free from difficulties and bring you home safely.
“Clearly, animals know more than we think, and think a great deal more than we know.”
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Post by Berta » March 24th, 2019, 7:07 pm

:hi: I do hope they will arrive safely.

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Post by Michi » March 24th, 2019, 11:33 pm

Thanks a lot, Urmas, for installing the camera, and Jo, for opening the new topic! :2thumbsup:

Now all is ready to welcome Karl and Kati.
Thumbs are crossed that both will arrive safe and sound. :2thumbsup:

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Post by Liz01 » March 25th, 2019, 10:26 am

Thank you for opening the new season thread of our Karl & Kati :loveshower:
I already saw it this morning, but did not dare to write until I saw Karl in the Birdmap. Now we can see him on map again :headroll:

Urmas, thank you for installing the cam, Jo, thanks a lot for opening the thread. :2thumbsup:
I hope we will have a successful breeding season. Lots of luck for Karl and Kati on their way home!

I saw a bit snowing on the nest in the morning. And there is still snow on the ground.

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Post by Jo UK » March 25th, 2019, 2:32 pm

Here is a Birdmap image of Karl's location now. We can follow him all the way home!

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Post by Jo UK » March 25th, 2019, 11:30 pm

Another map location for Karl - posted by Solo on another topic.
Thanks Solo.

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Post by Liz01 » March 26th, 2019, 5:25 am

March 26

Good Morning everyone :hi:

5:16 Black birds are singing beautifully. Behind the trees I see already daylight. :innocent:

Michi, thank you for the great picture! :2thumbsup:
Michi wrote:
March 26th, 2019, 2:04 am
At the very top of the picture in the middle one can see Cyprus.
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Post by Jo UK » March 27th, 2019, 1:21 am

Karl is travelling fast now. He is in Jordan.
Again, pictures by Solo -

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Post by Solo » March 27th, 2019, 8:44 am

26.03.2019 (3691 km)
Ein Tamar - northern Arava valley in Israel, south of the Dead Sea (Tamar Regional Council)
here more viewtopic.php?p=639299#p639299

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EDIT: update - new localisation today morning
27.03.2019 (3707 km)
here more viewtopic.php?p=639394#p639394

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Post by Solo » March 27th, 2019, 11:38 pm

27.03.2019 (3901 km)
Gesher, Beit She'an Valley in northeastern Israel (Valley of Springs Regional Council) - 15 km south of Tiberias
here more: viewtopic.php?p=639490#p639490

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Post by Liz01 » March 28th, 2019, 7:48 am

March 28

Good Morning :hi:

7:44 There is still snow on the ground. The nest looks great. Karl & Kati soon we will see you. :loveshower:
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Post by Solo » March 28th, 2019, 8:44 am

Liz01 wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 7:48 am
Karl & Kati soon we will see you. :loveshower:
2018: both April 8
12:35 Karl arrived at the nest and 18:25 Kati arrived
2017: Karl April 4, Kati April 9
Karl arrived at the nest on April 4 at 10:37, Kati arrived at the nest on April 9 at 14:38

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Post by Liz01 » March 28th, 2019, 8:47 am

Solo wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 8:44 am
2018: both April 8
2017: Karl April 4, Kati April 9
Solo, I know it! :laugh: I've been watching her since this camera is online. Here I observe almost as closely as on the Latvian nest. I only observed the Hungarian nest less.

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Post by Solo » March 28th, 2019, 9:12 am

Liz01 wrote:
March 28th, 2019, 8:47 am
...
that was for newbies here - what that means soon :mrgreen: (probably 7 or still further days)

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Post by Solo » March 28th, 2019, 4:14 pm

Karl: update 28.03.2019 (4018 km)
Karl's localisation is on his way north currently south from Khirbet Qanafar - West Beqaa District, Beqaa Governorate, Lebanon
more here: viewtopic.php?p=639621#p639621

map here in the late evening (probably we will have second update)

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