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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 12:41 am
by HelenL44
I like the K's, especially in honor of Karl I.
I also think special names starting with any letter would be nice for our survivors.

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 12:47 am
by Michi
Thank you, asondheim, HelenL44 and Katerina, for your thoughts and words! :wave:

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 1:21 am
by balistar
Anne, Michi, visit, asondheim, Katerina, thank you.

Also I am of the opinion that the storklets realize the missing brother or sister.


"Death of a Bird: Mourning and Advanced Cognition in Birds":
http://jonlieffmd.com/blog/death-of-a-b ... n-in-birds

Birds show much greater intelligence than would be expected by comparing their brain to a human.
...
Despite small brains, which have been called “primitive,” birds show a wide variety of cognitive and social abilities. The finding that jaybirds appear to mourn over a dead comrade shows how little we know about the inner lives of animals.

While the researcher’s conclusion was that the birds were sitting for two days without foraging to find out where the danger was coming from, it certainly appears that the jays were grieving.
...
The question of emotions in animals is hotly debated, but there is no question now that many animals experience a wide range of emotions. For years it was thought that the size of the brain determined the advanced mental characteristics of animals.

But, there is now increasing research demonstrating advanced capacities with very small brains. For example the tiny hummingbird has advanced memory and future planning, including knowing exactly which flowers that they have already visited.
...
What Do Birds Know?
The most intelligent birds appear to be the parrots, crows, ravens, and jays.
Birds demonstrate counting, associative learning, spatial temporal abilities, self-awareness, and tool use.



For example i'd like to remind on the Big Bear Bald Eagle nest on the "American Bald Eagle"-Thread. After the death of brother Cookie, Simba for a few days refused food, ate less, and even had an upset stomach and vomited, slept a few days next to his dead brother. A few days he was complaining as soon as a parent tried to move the dead body of his brother Cookie to the side of the nest. He missed his brother and he certainly mourned.


Mammals, birds, they have words, it just might be that we don't speak their language.


Two of my pictures of today, i'd like to add with the question: "what might they think ?"

17:56
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18:03
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:wave:

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 1:34 am
by Michi
Liz01 wrote:
June 20th, 2019, 7:47 pm
I made two videos. They are not too long. I did the attacks in SLOMO.
It was not a nice job .. I experienced everything again

9:27 - 9:50 AM
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10:22- 10:25 AM
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Thanks a lot, Liz, that you've done this difficult work! :2thumbsup:

I've taken some pictures from your video which show a heavy attack and the storklets fierce reaction. I cannot help but deeply admire the storklets for their steadfastness and great commitment to defend their lives. :bow: :bow: :bow:

09:50:03
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09:50:04
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09:50:06
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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 1:48 am
by Michi
Balistar :wave: , many thanks for the very interesting report. This supports the opinion of many of us that birds know much more than we think. :nod:
I haven't known the story of the Big Bear Bald Eagles nest. It's impressive.
This is almost a proof that birds have feelings.

Thanks a lot for your impressive pictures of that severe attack at 10:22 and for the two last ones. Yes, - what did they think!? :rolleyes:

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 2:40 am
by Michi
Lastly some good night pictures. It took so long because I had problems with my photo hoster.

22:41:08 The storklet has made a PS and sat down again.
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22:41:22 For a short moment it has preened its sibling. This was so cute, - touching. :rolleyes:
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23:15:09 Still up. This storklet was up already for quite a while, and also later it did not sleep.
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Summi :hi:, the nest is really "empty" without the third storklet. It is a big loss. :unsure:

Good night everyone.

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 3:54 am
by visit
:wave:

They are sleeping :)

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 5:41 am
by Liz01
June 21

Good Morning everyone :hi:


Thank you all for pictures and comments. :2thumbsup:
Anne7 wrote:
June 20th, 2019, 9:24 pm
20:43:53 Is it just imagination, or do the storklets really look sad?...
Anne, I think they are sad.
Crissy wrote:
June 20th, 2019, 10:28 pm
... I'd like to think they miss their buddy, even if its not true and only a conception evoked by human emotions.
..........
Crissy, they do!

At the Nest of Ozols I saw that siblings miss each other. I will never forget the behavior of Ziluks (male storklet), as Zikuka (female storklet) slipped from the branch.
He was incredibly shocked. He stood on the branch for a very long time and looked down. They communicated with each other. And both were overjoyed when both were reunited. The ornithologists have brought her back to the nest. But only because she had a transmitter. Usually they do not intervene.

5:39 Our storklets are sleeping . I have to say, I was afraid to open the camera. But all is OK with the little ones.

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 5:51 am
by Liz01
5:50 Storklet is preening it's sibling :innocent:

5:53 both standing up. One of them is doing a ps.. it was a lot. They have eaten well.

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:04 am
by Liz01
6:02:49 loud breaking branches on the ground. Sounds like an moose

6:03:15 someone is here on the ground. Storklets are alarmed.
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6:04 I hear our third storklet :slap: I have to check it again :bow: But I heard twittering from a storklet far away
Maybe I'm wrong. Please do not be angry. It is very early - I have to check.

Storklets are looking downwards, clattering with their beaks and calling strange

6:04:25 twittering can be heard.

6:05
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6:11 again and again?
Maybe this noise makes one of the storklets in the nest. but it sounds distant. Later I will check it again. One of the Storklets in the nest is twittering and growling

6:14:57...


Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:17 am
by Liz01
6:15 Storklets still looking to the ground
6:22 they are calm down?
6:38 still not relaxed

6:39 It sounds like a thunderstorm is coming

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:46 am
by Gigi
Liz01 wrote:
June 21st, 2019, 6:17 am
6:15 Storklets still looking to the ground
6:22 they are calm down?
6:38 still not relaxed

6:39 It sounds like a thunderstorm is coming
have the parents been to the nest since the attacks began?

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:46 am
by Liz01
6:44 looks like back to normnal.

6:47 both are standing
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What a beauty :innocent:
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6:48 big wings :2thumbsup:
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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:48 am
by Liz01
Gigi wrote:
June 21st, 2019, 6:46 am
have the parents been to the nest since the attacks began?
Yes, they were :2thumbsup:
There were four feedings.. Karl II 3x and Kati 1x .. if I remember correct.

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 6:52 am
by Liz01
6:50 wing exercises
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6:54 it rains :2thumbsup: As long as there is no bad storm, it's good that it's raining.

7:11 preening in adult style :D
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7:12
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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 7:22 am
by Liz01
7:17 They are far from relaxed. They react to every strange noise ( A bird called)
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calmed down again
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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 7:25 am
by Liz01
7:23 more rain .. it looks like. I this rain the goshawk will not fly :thumbs:
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7:31 strong rain
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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 8:08 am
by Liz01
8:07:10 they are alarmed :slap:
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8:10:39 OMG :bow: looks like the GH is back
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8:10:44
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somone is on the right

8:14 scratching his head , while standing (what a progress!)

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 8:21 am
by Liz01
8:20 is still there :bow:
They growl and clatter with their beaks. He is probably sitting close to the nest on a branch :bow:
poor storklets

The sitting storklet is twittering..
I hope we do not experience such a long threat again. Too much for the little ones and for us too :(

Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

Posted: June 21st, 2019, 8:30 am
by Liz01
8:29 GH has change the position.. was flying from the right to the left.

8:32 It seems OK now,
Perhaps they react to a harmless bird? They are still very excited (me too). They have not forgotten what happened yesterday.

8:33:36 scratching the head while standing again :2thumbsup:
8:34:55 good ps by one

Every bird is a potential enemy, everything that moves on the ground is an enemy ..

I think, It will be a while before they can distinguish again who is harmless, who is dangerous :unsure: