Estonian Osprey Nests ~ Madis & Piret ~ DISCUSSION~ 2014

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Re: Estonian Osprey Nests ~ Madis & Piret ~ DISCUSSION~ 2014

Post by Bea » July 26th, 2014, 1:48 pm

I am just downloading and cutting. Unfortunately the visits are spread on two 4-hour-video-patches, so it takes a bit time to first download them, and then cut and convert them for uploading to youtube.
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Post by Kukelke » July 26th, 2014, 1:56 pm

Thanks for your efforts, Bea! :thumbs:

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Post by Kukelke » July 26th, 2014, 11:28 pm

Bea wrote:Well, think I have gotten all done now...
Thanks for all the videos Bea, very much appreciated. :2thumbsup:

I haven't seen them all yet, only the first two, but it seems to me that the sound on these videos is from the Ilmar and Irma nest, as I can hear osplets begging for food. Not that it matters much as the videos show what's going on on the Piret & Madis nest, but worth mentioning in case people wonder why the sounds don't fit to the behaviour. :D

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Post by Bea » July 26th, 2014, 11:46 pm

Oh heavens, probably I took the wrong choice for the microphone option :blush: :laugh:

Had Ilmar and Irma cam opened on the other screen :whistling:
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Post by Chimega » July 27th, 2014, 8:33 am

javabird wrote:And then , who is it? He/She is chirping there, and then flew away.

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This osprey looks very much like the one who arrived on the nest some time back, this year. This was a lovely looking osprey but not Piret and seriously doubt it was Oxana as it was not built like her and forehead markings appear to be different.

This would be that bird.

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IMHO, something has been going on in this nest and area all along, this year. We just don't know what because there is no one there in a hide to keep an eye out on what is actually going on.

I also do not believe Piret is unable to lay eggs anymore.
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Post by Chimega » July 27th, 2014, 8:35 am

Thank you, Bea, for your hard work! :bow: You really do work hard with these videos and sorting things out. I am sure it is a great help to the eagle men and to us all. We could not view all of this without you! :thumbs:
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Post by Chimega » July 28th, 2014, 2:00 pm

Is it not possible that this ringed male is not Madis afterall, but another male osprey? I know it looks like him but osprey from this area do look a lot alike. It could be that this is not Madis, afterall? I have not studied markings on this male enough to know for sure or rule it out, so far. I will try to work that into my schedule.
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Post by Schleiereule51 » September 7th, 2014, 9:13 am

Is there any information about Piret? Was seen by Urmas? She has her transmitter still on his back?
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Post by Bea » September 24th, 2014, 10:12 am

24. September

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Surrounding of the nest looks already pretty autumnal and camera makes a long shadow
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Post by Owlie » October 2nd, 2014, 6:18 pm

Schleiereule51 wrote:Is there any information about Piret? Was seen by Urmas? Did they send their transmitter yet?
We have not heard of Piret or of her transmitter.
But Madis was seen the same hour at the same pond where the osprey female Tiiu was trapped (16th August) for a transmitter set up:

viewtopic.php?p=346838#p346838

http://birdmap.5dvision.ee/index.php?la ... son=Autumn

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Post by Bea » October 6th, 2014, 1:07 pm

October 6

A jay looking for a safe place for his winter reserves :)
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Post by Schleiereule51 » October 6th, 2014, 4:07 pm

Perfect (jay)!


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Post by Riitta » October 6th, 2014, 11:45 pm

Beautiful pictures of the jay, Bea. :thumbs:

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Post by Bea » October 9th, 2014, 12:22 pm

Now we know more about how this season went on for Piret and Madis ..... Image

http://www.looduskalender.ee/en/node/21290

It explains a bit more their behaviour on later appearances on the nest.
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Post by Janne+Ais » October 9th, 2014, 12:48 pm

So sad.
But thank you, Bea, for this information!

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Post by Schleiereule51 » October 9th, 2014, 1:39 pm

I am very sad that Piret and Madis this year so had a bad luck again ... Perhaps the branches of spruce were not strong enough? But the main thing they are together and healthy! Thanks to Urmas!
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Post by Kukelke » October 9th, 2014, 2:39 pm

That's both good and sad news at the same time. Sad because unfortunate circumstances caused the nest partially to collapse, and the nestlings to fall down and die, and good news because Madis & Piret are still together, and that Piret is still able to lay fertile eggs (which some here doubted earlier this year).

The partial collapse of the nest (which was discovered on July 23, but could ofcourse have happened before that) might be connected with the sudden appearance of both Madis & Piret on the old nest (with the camera) on July 8, and of Madis for sure and possibly Piret too, on July 9.

I wonder which nest they will use next year: the old one with camera, or their new one which partially came down. Also, with Tiiu also breeding in that area, could be an explanation of why Madis & Piret moved further away from their old nest (2 km) than what is usual when ospreys build new nests.

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Post by lianaliesma » October 9th, 2014, 5:55 pm

Thank you for information, so pitty. Hopefully next season will be good for Piret&Madis! :loveshower:
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Post by Owlie » October 9th, 2014, 6:53 pm

Nice to know that the Royal Couple still builds families. But: what a tragedy for Piret and Madis' breeding this summer! Maybe humans can do the same as at Lauma and Pērkons' nest: strengthen the construction for future ...?

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Post by Janne+Ais » October 9th, 2014, 7:10 pm

Maybe our brave eagle men do ponder over this. And maybe then we will see, how Piret and Madis return to their old nest... :rotf:
For me it is interesting. One can read, that ospreys are not faithful to their partners but to their nest. Madis and Piret disprove this theory.

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