Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2018

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Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2018

Post by lispet » June 13th, 2018, 9:48 am

09:45
One of the chicks inspects the nest a bit further, then returns to mama's direction
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Post by seira » June 13th, 2018, 10:56 am

:hi:

10:34 fish delivery, alive, but 10:35 Ivo flew away with fish
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10:36 re-delivery
10:37 Ivo away to the dead tree
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10:46 feeding is over

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Post by Summi » June 13th, 2018, 12:03 pm

lispet wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 9:48 am
09:45
One of the chicks inspects the nest a bit further
Wow, what a long trip! And thank you for the beautiful misty morning picture. :thumbs:
Seira, "your" fish seems to be the mirror carp according to Beas's tuition. :rolleyes:

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Post by Bea » June 13th, 2018, 2:37 pm

Fish could be a carp, yes - but it looks more like a "normal" carp, I can´t see scales that look like a "mirror".

For compare:
Mirror Carps (in German the first one is also called "Zeilkarpfen", with the long scale lines on its body)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpfen#/ ... 008_G1.jpg
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpfen#/ ... arpfen.jpg

"Normal" carp:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpfen#/ ... alCarp.JPG
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Post by Sunshine » June 13th, 2018, 3:05 pm

:wave:
Thanks, Bea, for the information - had no idea that there are different sort of carps even :laugh:

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Post by mogga » June 13th, 2018, 3:05 pm

The first feeding I found this morning was from 6:40 until 6:48.
It was a very tiny piece of fish Ivo delivered.
From 7:00-7:30 (time of my video!) the small one and the big one had a conversation. Not fighting, looks more like playing. Or maybe Smallie tried to get a piece of fish from Oldies beak... :laugh:

06:40 - 06:48

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Post by Sunshine » June 13th, 2018, 3:08 pm

14:53
Ivo brought a.. well, it is safe to say that it's a fish :D

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14:55
All three little ones lining up. This year they are so different in colour, the Middlie (on the left) and Smallie (in front) especially.

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The middle one (left, middle) is very grey, even silvery. The small one brownish, chocolate. And the eldest is the lightest in colour. That will change still, of course..
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Post by Juri » June 13th, 2018, 3:59 pm

mogga wrote:
June 12th, 2018, 10:33 pm

Here is the pecking of Niina, Thor, Yolanda on 16.06, 11:22
(The video quality at that time was not as good as now)
https://youtu.be/XqqZAnF7mUU
Thank you mogga for searching and sharing this piece of history. It seemed like the fight was more even between the two eldest then. The picture quality has truly improved from those days. :2thumbsup:

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Post by Juri » June 13th, 2018, 4:07 pm

Birdfriend wrote:
June 12th, 2018, 10:21 pm
mogga :hi:
I observed many nests, when three chicks are there, it gives these rivalries very often, more and stronger than in nests with two chicks. Mostly the last hatched has a heavy destiny.
Hello Birdfriend! :wave:

Do you know if there is a notable difference in survival rate between the youngest and elder birds? I would assume that when food is limited, it's the youngest who suffers, but I'm wondering how is it in situations where there is plenty of food available. Does the pecking lower the survival rate?

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Post by Bea » June 13th, 2018, 4:08 pm

Sunshine wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 3:08 pm
14:53
Ivo brought a.. well, it is safe to say that it's a fish :D
Yep, you are on the very safe side with this identification :laugh:

I think it was a Tench (Tinca tinca)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tench
http://www.luontoportti.com/suomi/en/kalat/tench


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Post by Juri » June 13th, 2018, 4:10 pm

HelenL44 wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 3:34 am
Mogga's photo of Ivo -
someone else's comment in Ivo's voice "what are you staring at?" - I add "give us some privacy, will you? This is my family, we're not some television show!"
HelenL44 :wave:

My thoughts exactly! :rotf:

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Post by Juri » June 13th, 2018, 4:53 pm

Sunshine wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 3:08 pm
The middle one (left, middle) is very grey, even silvery. The small one brownish, chocolate. And the eldest is the lightest in colour. That will change still, of course..
https://up.picr.de/32962310sk.jpg
I think it might be the Oldie on the left. At least it seemed to eat most and was the first to feel full. The coloring has become darker very fast and very recently. :puzzled:

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Post by Sunshine » June 13th, 2018, 5:16 pm

Juri wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 4:53 pm
I think it might be the Oldie on the left. At least it seemed to eat most and was the first to feel full. The coloring has become darker very fast and very recently. :puzzled:
Juri, you might be right. The colouring changed so fast.. It made me a bit confused..

In either case, it will be 100% clear after the next fight :laugh:

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Post by seira » June 13th, 2018, 5:17 pm

16:50 fish ~
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16:56 feeding
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17:03 chick #2
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Post by Jojo » June 13th, 2018, 5:19 pm

Dinnertime and a nice big fissh for the family at 16.50.

It seemed to me that smallie is very good at making his/her needs known and was well fed. Oldie has no problems , but it was middlie that seemed a bit left out .

There was also a funny moment when the fish intestines stretched and stretched and got wrapped around the chicks like tinsel on a Xmas tree. :D Mama Irma sorted it out. :2thumbsup:

Ivo arrived at 17.12 and flew off with the rest of the fish.
17.18 chicks are lying down and Irma on standby.

Think Middlie is still hungry though....


edit:

Just reading that the darker one is Middlie , so is Oldie the last at coming forward?... :puzzled:

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Post by Sunshine » June 13th, 2018, 5:31 pm

17:28
Ivo brought a half-fish.

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Post by Jojo » June 13th, 2018, 5:36 pm

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17.30

ALL chicks having a turn :laugh:

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Post by seira » June 13th, 2018, 5:38 pm

chick #1 's feathers are coming in, and is the darker one

Bea's picture, see the feathers
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the Oldie (chick #1) is on the left, the Middlie (chick #2) is on the right
Sunshine wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 5:31 pm
On the right the Oldie (the lightest), in the middle the Smallie, on the left the Middlie :rolleyes:
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Post by Bea » June 13th, 2018, 5:38 pm

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The 16:50-fish that seira reported was a "normal" Carp

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Post by Sunshine » June 13th, 2018, 5:50 pm

seira wrote:
June 13th, 2018, 5:38 pm
chick #1 's feathers are coming in, and is the darker one

Bea's picture, see the feathers
Hmm, seira, you seem to be right.. :puzzled: I checked the videos. All the time the chick No #1 was the lightest from shading, the change was really sudden..
I am sorry for this confusion :blush:

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