Following Karls' Families

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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by Anne7 » October 16th, 2018, 9:17 pm

sova wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:12 pm
:nod:
Wish you all good night .... beautiful dreams :wave:
You too, Sova.
Sleep well.
Michi wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:17 pm
Anne, this is not a contradiction. :mrgreen:
Of course the people hope that it will come true, but they have also doubts about it.

Edit: Or is it only my own thinking? :puzzled:
OK :mrgreen:

See you tomorrow, Michi!
Good night.
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Post by Solo » October 16th, 2018, 9:23 pm

KARL and his silent time

2016 - 2017
Oct. 02 Gulf of Suez, Oct. 4 (Egypt, wider area Merowe Dam), Oct 6 (Sudan, south from Merowe dam), second update north from Barah/Bara in North Kurdufan, Sudan)
"Kadugli" area: Oct. 7 - Nov.25
(update: Oct. 7, 10, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, 30, 31, Nov. 02, 03, 05, 10, 13, 19, 22, 25, 26 - last localisation Nov.25)
Urmas: "Karl is most probably out of GSM network"
(Dec. 12 - https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 44#p504244)
very long pause from Nov. 26 to March 9 (news from Sudan, south from Khartoum)

2017 - 2018
Oct. 11 Gulf of Suez, new data Oct.14 (Egypt, Aswan Dam), Oct. 15 (Sudan, south from Merowe Dam) and big pause:
"Kadugli" area: Oct.30 - Nov.25
(update: Oct. 30, 31, Nov 2, Nov 7, Nov 9, Nov 10, Nov 12 + Nov. 21, Nov. 25 - last data Nov. 21)
very long pause from Nov. 25 to March 16 (news from Sudan, Al Jazirah, near Umm Talsah)

photos from his area https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 30#p618430
now at that place is nice green :headroll:
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Michi, you remember? - it is "your's" link :thumbs: - year 2015 :D )

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Post by Anne7 » October 16th, 2018, 10:06 pm

Solo wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 5:02 pm
e.g. BS Sarma flew over Gulf of Iskenderun at Nov. 9 https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 59#p428159 (after many weeks in Turkey – she had arrived there at October 4th)
Thanks for the info, Solo! :thumbs:
And also for the info about how long Karl stayed in 'his' Kadugli area in the previous years. :bow:

Good night!
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Post by Solo » October 16th, 2018, 10:18 pm

Anne7 wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:05 pm
... TODAY'S SUMMARY ...
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Post by Solo » October 16th, 2018, 10:22 pm

Anne7 wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 10:06 pm
Thanks for the info, Solo! :thumbs: And also for the info about how long Karl stayed in 'his' Kadugli area in the previous years. :bow: Good night! :wave:
Good night Anne, sleep well :wave:

btw. From Kadugli area flew Karl any farther to south and that is the area where he is out of GSM so very long time
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Post by Michi » October 17th, 2018, 1:24 am

Solo wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 9:23 pm
Michi, you remember? - it is "your's" link : thumbs: - year 2015 :D
Solo, yes, I remember it - a little. :D I'd almost forgotten it.
Autumn 2015 - these were very intense times :rolleyes: . This webpage I've used for current/new pictures of Fejas position in the Sahara.
Some of the forum members involved at that time are also present today, - you, Liz, Baska, Sova ... :thumbs: :D We've experienced bitter and also happier times together.

Thank you for the last informations!

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Post by Solo » October 17th, 2018, 7:52 am

OCTOBER 17

Good morning to all :hi:

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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 8:15 am

Good morning to all :hi:

Solo :hi:

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Post by Solo » October 17th, 2018, 8:26 am

KARULA

plus 1km maybe morning feeding after night in that area or the first meters on the way on and on to south
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EDIT: :hi: Sova

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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 8:27 am

Karl - no new data

Päike - no new data

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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 8:27 am

Maru (16.10.) Ukraine (Weather data - 11:00)
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temp; 15 °
Precipitation; 0 mm
Humidity; 40%
Wind; 100 m - SE (15 km / h)
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Wind; 250 m - SE (17 km / h)
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Wind; 500 m - SE (24 km / h)
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15:00
100 m - SE (16 km / h)
250 m - SE (16 km / h)
500 m - SE (16 km / h)

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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 8:27 am

Karula (16.10.) Turkey (Weather data - 11:00)
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temp; 28 °
Precipitation; 0 mm
Humidity; 40%
Wind; 100 m - W / NE (07 km / h)
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Wind; 250 m - W / NE (09 km / h)
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Wind; 500 m - NW / NE (03 km / h)
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15:00 :slap:
100 m - different wind directions (13 km / h)
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250 m - different wind directions (13 km / h)
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500 m - NW / NE (11km / h)
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Post by Hellem » October 17th, 2018, 9:27 am

:wave:

16.10 new update by Maru - 3364 km (+45 km), the same area in Ukraine on the Fosa River

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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 10:17 am

Hellem :hi:

Is that normal that Karula has flown only a kilometer? She's looking for food, she has to fly more than a kilometer, does not she? :puzzled:

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Post by Anne7 » October 17th, 2018, 11:38 am

Good morning, everyone. :hi:
sova wrote:
October 17th, 2018, 10:17 am
...
Is that normal that Karula has flown only a kilometer? She's looking for food, she has to fly more than a kilometer, does not she? :puzzled:
Hello, Sova. :wave:

Karula moved indeed very little. :puzzled:
It is about + 600 m, if I estimated it well.

A picture of the last position on 15.10 (= last data on 15.10)
Baska wrote on 15.10, about this location: "Karula can't have slept here ??? Perhaps... if this is a field with apple trees..."
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First data on 16.10 (as received in the birdmap on 17.10, in the morning??) :unsure:
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Post by sova » October 17th, 2018, 11:47 am

Anne :hi:

Karula had on 15.10. - 3 messages. In this orchard (fruit trees) was the last message. But that would mean then, Karula did not move yesterday at all . Is the data really from 16.10. ? :D

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Post by Anne7 » October 17th, 2018, 12:13 pm

sova wrote:
October 17th, 2018, 11:47 am
Anne :hi:

Karula had on 15.10. - 3 messages. In this orchard (fruit trees) was the last message. But that would mean then, Karula did not move yesterday at all . Is the data really from 16.10. ? :D
Sova, I don't know, but these are the last data from 16.10 that we received.
I really hope that, in reality, Karula is much further by now... :unsure:
Could it be that yesterday he has been out of GSM coverage, somewhere in Syria?

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Post by Solo » October 17th, 2018, 12:30 pm

sova wrote:
October 17th, 2018, 10:17 am
Hellem :hi: Is that normal that Karula has flown only a kilometer? She's looking for food, she has to fly more than a kilometer, does not she? :puzzled:
Sova, that area is not orchard (fruit trees) - see https://goo.gl/maps/yVtXYLLawsj or by Anne here https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 54#p618754
Anne7 wrote:
October 17th, 2018, 12:13 pm
Sova, these are the last data from 16.10 that we received.I really hope that, in reality, Karula is much further by now... :unsure: Could it be that yesterday he has been out of GSM coverage, somewhere in Syria?
"plus 1km maybe morning feeding after night in that area or the first meters on the way on and on to south" (https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 33#p618833)

more storks have in that area less or much big pause in data sending (e.g. Eedi 17.9. - 19.09., ...)

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Post by Solo » October 17th, 2018, 12:45 pm

KARULA

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baska wrote:
October 16th, 2018, 5:34 am
... Karula can't have slept here ??? Perhaps ... if this is a field with apple trees ...
in the area they are trees, but not apple very probably - storks sleep some times also in wet areas on the field and much another places
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https://goo.gl/maps/yVtXYLLawsj

also here we see trees (by Anne https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 54#p618754)

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Post by Anne7 » October 17th, 2018, 12:46 pm

Solo wrote:
October 17th, 2018, 12:30 pm
....
more storks have in that area less or much big pause in data sending (e.g. Eedi 17.9. - 19.09., ...)
Thanks, Solo. :wave:

This is what I was hoping.
Probably the GSM coverage in that area is not perfect
Respectively 6 and 12 hours after these morning data, Karula probably travelled a long distance.

Karula was (at his last known position) only about 27 km away from the Syrian border.

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