Following Karl's Family

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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by Solo » December 2nd, 2018, 9:35 am

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EDIT: here I can it read https://www.independent.ie/world-news/a ... 74691.html - Abigyl, that is your news?
but that area is enough much far from our Maru :mrgreen: (Dahshur royal necropolis if I understand correct)

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Post by sova » December 2nd, 2018, 10:02 am

Good morning to all :hi:
Abigyl wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 9:31 am
Maru is working hard in Egypt... :thumbs:

Look what she found :D

https://www.dailyitem.com/cnhi_network/ ... 2c6c6.html
Thanks Abigyl for sharing. How beautiful the colors are still preserved.

Anne, thanks for the card :2thumbsup:

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Post by baska » December 2nd, 2018, 10:59 am

Good morning all together :hi:
TY so much again for your reports, your considerations, pictures. All together a lot of work. :bow:

KARULA again : I just want to tell something about the fish ponds in Israel.
We are always thinking of the nets above the fish ponds, implicating the danger for the birds. As far as I know, we always rely on the experiences of Carsten Rohde.
But that was seven years ago ! A lot of things must have changed in the meantime.
Carsten Rohde mainly kept telling that the mesh size was everywhere too wide and therefore too dangerous. So he suggested to have a mesh size not more than 3 cm.

He found friends, ornithologists and natur organizations who did help him and carried on when he wasn't in Israel anymore.

We can assume, that lot of things improved and Liz discovered this report of Kibbutz Reshafim, where we can read, that there they don't use nets.

Last not least this photographer Tzvia Shahar Moskowitz answered now to my questions. At least in her region and south Haifa there are hardly no fish ponds anymore. On the map they look still like fish ponds but many fish growers have decided to stop raising fish because they do not stand in competition with the chinese growers ! :shock:
Hence, there are no fish nets anymore.

A new picture of her
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Hello Sova ! :hi:
Your picture or what ever of MARU is unavailable :puzzled:
greetings from Baska

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Post by sova » December 2nd, 2018, 11:17 am

baska wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 10:59 am
Hello Sova ! :hi:
Your picture or what ever of MARU is unavailable :puzzled:
Good morning Baska :hi:
Please, which picture do you mean?

Thank you for your detailed writing

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Post by Abigyl » December 2nd, 2018, 11:49 am

Solo wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 9:35 am
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EDIT: here I can it read https://www.independent.ie/world-news/a ... 74691.html - Abigyl, that is your news?
but that area is enough much far from our Maru :mrgreen: (Dahshur royal necropolis if I understand correct)
Yes! same article.
I know it's on the western side of Nile. But still shows that Maru choose an interesting part of the world :thumbs:

**In our days, It's so stupid to put such a msg while this article was cited all over the world and on TVs too :puzzled:

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Post by Anne7 » December 2nd, 2018, 12:09 pm

Good morning, everyone :wave:

Sova, thank you for the weather reports.
I have put the data in yesterday's summary
Baska, thanks for the info and the beautiful photo of that young BS.
Solo, thanks for the pics of Karula's current area.
Abigyl wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 9:31 am
Maru is working hard in Egypt... :thumbs:
Look what she found :D
Abigyl, our little Maru discovered splendid mummies!
LOL! We can be proud of her. :laugh:

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December 2nd, 2018, 12:31 am
New data
01.12
Karula - 5256 km (+16 km), near ReShafim in Israel
Maru - 7327 km (+5 km), near Adindan in Egypt
:hi: Thank you, Hellem

MARU
Last data: 01.12.2018
Distance: 7327 km (+ 5 km in 1 day), same area (near Adindan, Egypt)

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This is her current position, this morning, 02.12 (image via tracker)
She is again searching for food near that wastewater pond.
I wonder what she finds there.

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KARULA
Last data: 01.12.2018
Distance: 5256 km (+ 16 km in 1 day), same area (near ReShafim in Israel)

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Post by Liz01 » December 2nd, 2018, 1:41 pm

:hi:

Thank you for updates and reporting!

Baska, thank you for the interesting info about the area :2thumbsup: You're right! 7 years ago is much time.
Here you can see dry ponds
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Karula's current place
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Post by Anne7 » December 2nd, 2018, 2:03 pm

Liz01 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 1:41 pm
...
Here you can see dry ponds
Hello, Liz :wave:

Karula is searching for food in (or near) these emptied(?) ponds.
This is his latest position (the little arrow), this morning, 02.12 (image via tracker)
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Post by Liz01 » December 2nd, 2018, 2:20 pm

Anne7 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 2:03 pm
Hello, Liz :wave:

Maru is searching for food in (or near) these emptied(?) ponds.
This is his latest position (the little arrow), this morning, 02.12 (image via tracker)
https://up.picr.de/34477459dw.jpg
It looks like :nod:
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Anne :hi:
I use Bing for better zoom sight
https://www.bing.com/maps

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Post by Solo » December 2nd, 2018, 3:00 pm

Anne7 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 2:03 pm
Hello, Liz :wave:
Karula is searching for food in (or near) these emptied(?) ponds.
This is his latest position (the little arrow), this morning, 02.12 (image via tracker)
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:hi: Anne,
I am not Liz (:mrgreen: ), but answer is - see this photo (zoomed) in that area we have the last localisation our little Karula - Nov 8, 2018, 12:34 PM: water is in ponds

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(here https://plus.google.com/photos/photo/11 ... 7751348482)

already here: https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 83#p623983

btw. they "fishing" (searching for food) also in "empty" ponds, but I hope for that situation
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Migration of Lesser Spotted Eagles and Black Storks in Northern Israel Autumn 2010
Israel is becoming increasingly important as a wintering site for Black Storks. The fishpool-complexes in the Bet-Shean-Valley offer ideal food-conditions (https://www.krumenacker.de/en/lesser_sp ... _Migration)

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Post by Anne7 » December 2nd, 2018, 4:36 pm

Liz01 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 2:20 pm
Anne :hi:
I use Bing for better zoom sight https://www.bing.com/maps
Thanks for the tip, Liz


It seems that Karula is moving again.

TRACKER MAP
Karula_Dec02
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1FxUAO ... sp=sharing


And Maru?
Finally, Maru got enough of that stinky pond. :thumbs:
She is back where she used to be. :D

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I have to go.
I will add today's summary here, tonight or tomorrow.


Have a nice Sunday, everyone.
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Post by Abigyl » December 2nd, 2018, 5:17 pm

That's it !! She is now on the Jordanian side of the Jordan River.

Soon on the Dead Sea (lowest place on earth!) She likes records!!

Looks like she emptied all Israeli Ponds! :rotf:

Take a safe way :thumbs:

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Post by Hellem » December 2nd, 2018, 5:28 pm

Anne :wave: , thank you for the tracker map :thumbs:
Karula flew about 40 km straight to the south along the Jordan River valley and found some new ponds in Jordan (last data 2.11 at 14:57) 8-)

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Post by Hellem » December 2nd, 2018, 6:10 pm

Anne7 wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 4:36 pm

And Maru?
Finally, Maru got enough of that stinky pond. :thumbs:
She is back where she used to be. :D

https://up.picr.de/34479499mi.jpg
:wave: Very good news :D , thank you Anne :thumbs:

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Post by sova » December 2nd, 2018, 8:55 pm

Good evening :hi:
Maru and Karula have new data

Nice evening for everyone :wave:

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Post by Abigyl » December 2nd, 2018, 9:27 pm

baska wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 10:59 am

Last not least this photographer Tzvia Shahar Moskowitz answered now to my questions. At least in her region and south Haifa there are hardly no fish ponds anymore. On the map they look still like fish ponds but many fish growers have decided to stop raising fish because they do not stand in competition with the chinese growers ! :shock:
:hi: Baska!

I just saw that the small river or stream's name, near Reshafim where Karula was yesterday or this morning, is also .... Tsvia (like your friend) .

https://www.google.co.il/maps/place/Nah ... 35.4370574

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Post by Hellem » December 2nd, 2018, 10:20 pm

New update

02.12

Karula - 5301 km (+45 km), flew to south and found some new ponds in Jordan River valley, Jordan
Maru - 7381 km (+54 km), flew back to his/her previous feeding place in Kom Umbu area, Egypt :D

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Post by Anne7 » December 3rd, 2018, 12:04 am

Hellem wrote:
December 2nd, 2018, 10:20 pm
New update
02.12
Karula - 5301 km (+45 km), flew to south and found some new ponds in Jordan River valley, Jordan
Maru - 7381 km (+54 km), flew back to his/her previous feeding place in Kom Umbu area, Egypt :D
Thank you, Hellem :wave:

Maru flew back to the previous fields

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The night area in the desert. (Latest location, image via tracker) :puzzled:

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Post by Anne7 » December 3rd, 2018, 12:08 am

Karula flew from Reshafim to the south and found some new ponds in the Jordan River valley, near Tal Al-Mantah in Jordan.

Today's route
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Feeding on these fish ponds near Tal Al-Mantah in Jordan
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Night area in Israel. Is Karula already moving on? (Latest location, image via tracker)
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TODAY'S SUMMARY DECEMBER 02

KARL (Karl is probably in South Sudan)
No new data (Last data: 15.11.2018)

MARU (Maru is near the Nile in Egypt since 01.11; = 31 days)
Last data: 02.12.2018
Distance: 7381 km (+ 54 km in 1 day), same area (near Adindan, Egypt)
Weather report 02.12 at 10:00
Temp: 23°; 15:00 24°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 30%
Air pressure: 1015 hPa
Wind 100 m - N/NE (10 km/h); 15:00 NW (15 km/h)
Wind 250 m - N/NE (11 km/h); 15:00 NW (16 km/h)
Wind 500 m - N/NE (18 km/h); 15:00 NW (17 km/h)

PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)

KARULA
Last data: 02.12.2018
Distance: 5301 km (+ 45 km in 1 day), travelling (to ponds near Tal Al-Mantah in Jordan)
Weather report in Tal al Manţaḩ 02.12 at 10:00
temp: 16°; 15:00 17°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 50%
Air pressure: 1019 hPa
Wind 100 m - SE (09 km/h); 15:00 E (09 km/h)
Wind 250 m - SE (08 km/h); 15:00 E (13 km/h)
Wind 500 m - SE (14 km/h); 15:00 E (22 km/h)


Good night, everyone.
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Post by Michi » December 3rd, 2018, 2:50 am

Good evening together, :wave:
I want to say a big thank you to all for todays updates, beautiful pictures from young storks and others, tracker maps and all the interesting informations! :2thumbsup:
I'm glad Maru has left her last area; although her last location in the tracker map seems to be doubtful. I really hope she will find her way.

Karula has moved on to south?! It's a little bit surprising. So she most likely doesn't want to spend the winter in Israel. Probably her instinct tells her to move further south - to Africa.
I think Karula is a clever girl who knows what she finally has to do.

Good luck on your way, Karula! :2thumbsup:

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