Following Karls' Families

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Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 4:51 pm...Maru and/or the transmitter are still in (more or less?) the same place....
inaccuracy of transmitter-or-Maru-is-still-alive-or-... :bow:
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sova wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:10 pm I know, they are * small steps * but they are still moving ... they are not dead
Solo wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:10 pm inaccuracy of transmitter-or-Maru-is-still-alive-or-... :bow:
Yes, very small movements are still seen.
But that is possibly (probably?) due to a minor inaccuracy of the sent coordinates?

I do not know. I wish that soon someone will be there. :unsure:
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If she was looking for Maru, they would have to hurry. If she is not OK (sick) the weather is not that great for tomorrow ... not as warm as today and no sun.
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Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:15 pm... I wish that soon someone will be there. :unsure:
:puzzled: :bow:
here-(the-southwest-buildings)-are-people-(by-Anne):-https://up.picr.de/35150825rr.jpg

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Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:15 pm...a minor inaccuracy of the sent coordinates?...
inaccuracy:-if-I-remember-correct-that-is-cca-20m
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Solo wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:32 pm inaccuracy:-if-I-remember-correct-that-is-cca-20m
Solo, I often had the impression that these particular transmitters are a little more accurate. :puzzled:
But, unfortunately, I do not know that for sure.

This is really hard to watch, without knowing with certainty if Maru is still alive or not.
I'm feeling very sorry for our little Maru (and for all of us who care so much about her).

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Urmas seemed to be quite sure that Maru perished. He wrote:
"As transmitter temperature fall for night 25th lower as usually, it indicates death of the bird, unfortunately. The same show acelerometer values - no movement."

The location is given by:
Latitude – Latitude in decimal degrees
Longitude – Longitude in decimal degrees

Movement (in this case tri-axial acceleration) is indicated by:
acc_x– accelerometer X-axis measurement
acc_y– accelerometer Y-axis measurement
acc_z– accelerometer Z-axis measurement
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Hellem wrote: February 26th, 2019, 10:57 am...26.02 New data on the birdmap Karula - 6762 km (+26 km), near Nir David in Israel
Maru - 8878 km (+9 km)
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Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:51 pm The location is given by:
Latitude – Latitude in decimal degrees
Longitude – Longitude in decimal degrees

Movement (in this case tri-axial acceleration) is indicated by:
acc_x– accelerometer X-axis measurement
acc_y– accelerometer Y-axis measurement
acc_z– accelerometer Z-axis measurement

Dear Anne, thanks for the effort but I understand nothing. :D There are certainly forum members who understand that. I can not comment on that
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Anne, weather data is available.
I did it again for Maru. (once again)
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sova wrote: February 26th, 2019, 6:22 pm Dear Anne, thanks for the effort but I understand nothing. :D There are certainly forum members who understand that. I can not comment on that
Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:51 pm ....

The location is given by:
Latitude – Latitude in decimal degrees
Longitude – Longitude in decimal degrees

Movement (in this case tri-axial acceleration) is indicated by:
acc_x– accelerometer X-axis measurement
acc_y– accelerometer Y-axis measurement
acc_z– accelerometer Z-axis measurement
:hi:
I understand it that way: The measurement takes place in three dimensions. Height, width and length.
There is no movement in all three axes. No movement in any direction means nothing good. It's like Urmas wrote.
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Hello, Liz
sova wrote: February 26th, 2019, 7:32 pm Anne, weather data is available.
I did it again for Maru. (once again)
Thank you, Sova.
What a sad day.
I hope we will get some extra information from Urmas soon.

Here is Karula's evening tracker map
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Karula_Feb26_CompleteDay
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vjjE8 ... sp=sharing

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TODAY'S SUMMARY FEBRUARY 26

KARL (Karl is probably in South Sudan)
No new data (Last data: 15.11.2018)

MARU (Maru is near the Nile in Egypt since 01.11.2018 = 117 days)
Most probably, our little Maru perished on February 25 in the afternoon
Last data: 26.02.2019
Distance: 8878 km (+ 9 km in 1 day), same area, Al Ballanah wastewater ponds, near Adindan in Egypt
Weather report 26.02 at 10:00
Temp: 26°; at 15:00 28°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 10%
Air pressure: 1014 hPa
Wind 100 m - N/NW (31 km/h); at 15:00
Wind 250 m - N/NW (32 km/h); at 15:00
Wind 500 m - N/NW (31 km/h); at 15:00

PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)

KARULA
Last data: 26.02.2019
Distance: 6762 km (+ 26 km in 1 day) same area, Nir David in the Beit She'an Valley in israel
Weather report 26.02 at 10:00
Temp: 21°; at 15:00 17°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 40%
Air pressure: 1013 hPa
Wind 100 m - SW (34 km/h); at 15:00 SW (37 km/h)
Wind 250 m - SW (34 km/h); at 15:00 SW (36 km/h)
Wind 500 m - SW (30 km/h); at 15:00 SW (34 km/h)
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Urmas wrote: February 26th, 2019, 9:48 am It seems to me that Maru has problems. [........] As transmitter temperature fall for night 25th lower as usually, it indicates death of the bird, unfortunately. The same show acelerometer values - no movement.
Our Maru, oh no! :cry: :cry: :cry:
This is so sad!

I've seen the bad news already in the afternoon on work. My hands were trembling when I read all. Poor Maru ... I so wished she would survive the long time in that area, that she would fly a bit to north in spring ...
But four months at those fields and the cursedly wastewater pools were too much for her. I am quite sure, that Maru died because she didn't had enough good, healthy food. How should it be possible on those fields? Four months only insects (what's about used insecticides?), without any fish or frogs, additional the unhealthy and probably contaminated food she captured at the wastewater pools ... I've often feared what has happened now, had often a bad feeling when I saw Maru there.

Beloved Maru, brave little storklet ... You'll never be forgotten. Rest in peace and fly high, my dear! :wave: :'-(
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sova wrote: February 26th, 2019, 5:10 pm I know, they are * small steps * but they are still moving ... they are not dead
Hello, dear Sova,
most likely it is only the transmitter, that still sends its data. They have a kind of scattering. The same we have seen when Feja and Kate died in 2015. Baska had explained that well, I will look for the article.

I'll give you a virtual hug, if you don't mind. It's a very sad day, I'm in tears. :unsure:

Edit 22:58:
I've found Baskas contribution from year 2015 about the transmitter's scattering. Here it is:
baska wrote: November 1st, 2015, 6:12 pm [.....]
Solo, I feel very uneasy when I see the short distances, even if she moved about 25 m today.
I know that the signals of transmitters have a certain fluctuation range of about 20 m.
An expert told me last year that the transmitter still can send signals even if it doesn't move anymore .........
[......]
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I share in our sadness about the loss of Maru.
Let us hope that we can learn the cause of death, and recover the transmitter. There is still so much to learn.
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Hello, Michi
Hello, Jo

Here is Maru's evening tracker map. :cry:

She is still there. Nobody came to find her, until now.

TRACKER MAP
Maru_Feb26_CompleteDay
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15BoIU ... sp=sharing
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Anne7 wrote: February 26th, 2019, 11:19 pm Hello, Michi
Hello, Jo

Here is Maru's evening tracker map. :cry:

She is still there. Nobody came to find her, until now.
Hello Anne,
thank your for Marus latest tracker map, and also for the last ones. I just had a detailed look on them. It is the same picture as with other perished storks I've seen. :cry:
I imploringly hope someone will go to Maru very quickly.

Thanks a lot, Solo and Anne, for your help in finding contact adresses for Urmas.
Many thanks to you, Urmas, that you have informed us immediately.
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So sad, so sad :cry: :cry: :cry:

I hate those f*ing sh*t pools :vangry:
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Urmas wrote: February 26th, 2019, 9:48 am It seems to me that Maru has problems. Maru walked much in last days and flew rarely. Nevertheless, flew for overnight in evening 24th and next morning 4km NE to the channel. After that only walking or stops and finally yesterday around noon Maru stays in the open field 140 m N of sewage (probably) bonds. As transmitter temperature fall for night 25th lower as usually, it indicates death of the bird, unfortunately. The same show accelerometer values - no movement. ...
Here are the graphs. :unsure:

The 3 flat lines (x, y and z), yesterday after 13:00, indicate that Maru didn't move anymore.
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The average lowest night temperature (inside the transmitter) was between 19 and 21 degrees.
Last night the temperature dropped to 15°.
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Solo wrote: February 26th, 2019, 4:16 pm Urmas-is-already-in-contact-with-one-Egyptian-Birdfriend
my-FB-friend-send-the-contact-to-Urmas-and-the-Egyptian-has-now-the-exactly-coordinates
he-will-go-to-area-very-probably-(question-is-the-day- :bow: )
he-also-know-that-VET-will-be-necessary-if-Maru-is-still-alive
Thanks! Hope someone will help! :bow:

Solo, what are all the hyphens in your msgs? :puzzled:
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Thank you very much for the graphs, Anne.

In the first picture it looks like a zero line on a monitor for vital signs. Flat lines ... not good.
But the temperature in the night to February 26th shows it in all clarity. A difference of 6 degrees celsius. There is no doubt that our Maru has passed away. :cry:
Urmas has said it to us very careful.
:unsure:
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