Following Karls' Families

[aquiline]

I think it is strange that poor Aru's cervical vertebra was injured.
As I wrote earlier - maybe something was wrong with him? Or is it a coincidence that the bird which had an injured wing now has such an injury? Two heavy flight accidents?
Was he simply a bad flyer or is the reason deeper? Also his long stay in the North and the return from Ukraine to Belarus seems ominous to me.
Probably we will never know

kuhankeittäjä - thank you for all your explanations

[Jo UK]

Predators usually bite at the neck first. It immobilises or kills the prey.

[aquiline]

Predators usually bite at the neck first. It immobilises or kills the prey.

So you think this injury was not the reason but the consequence of Aru's landing?

[aquiline]

Maybe a crazy thought, but I still have to ask because Aru had his/her wing wounds and Maru's transmitter (or do I remember wrong)...
that could an open wound get infected through Maru's transmitter?

Treia, certainly the Transmitter had been disinfected before using it again.

[Jo UK]

So you think this injury was not the reason but the consequence of Aru's landing?

We can't know if the predator was at ground level or higher. There has been no information about the nature of the bite - its size. Size of tooth marks.

[asteria]

It was written that it was a small predator.

[Jo UK]

Tracker Map
October 10 to October 11

ORU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16mb_E ... sp=sharing

[Anne7]

Tracker Map
October 10 to October 11

ORU
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16mb_E ... sp=sharing

Thanks, Jo!

Today, Oru flew to the Çatalan Dam Lake, north of Adana.
This is his flown track. Tracker map says that this yellow line is 109 km long.


Oru woke up at about 06:48, and flew a couple of 100 meters to have breakfast. A long breakfast.
At 11:18:45 (UTC+3) he flew towards his second breakfast area.
After a short second breakfast, Oru started to travel eastwards, at 11:38:47 (UTC+3).


A closer view on his first breakfast area. Hmm, I don’t see why he stayed there for so long.

[Anne7]

At 18:28:15 (UTC+3), Oru arrived near Bekirli, close to the Çatalan Dam Lake.


The Çatalan Dam is an embankment dam on the Seyhan River dam in Adana Province, Turkey. It is 22 km north of the city of Adana. Constructed between 1982 and 1997, the development was backed by the Turkish State Hydraulic Works.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Çatalan_Dam


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... ana_01.JPG

A closer view on Aru's current area.

[Liz01]

..........
I'm really tired of Solo writing in Russian here. Everyone knows that it is an English speaken forum. Either the words are translated into English or you don't post them.

Many have written here in Russian. Why do you only mention Solo? Some members quoted and replied to the Russian post.

[Jo UK]

Liz, I think we haved dealt with that topic now.

viewtopic.php?p=696890#p696890

[Ari19]

I was happy that Aru was found alive, but then...



This may be the point. All birds that I have seen upside down were dead, but Aru was alive. The temperature of the transmitter has several factors, but the bird itself is the closest and most constant external source of heat until death.

As seen from the accelerometer record Aru first sat down, as if it were too weak to stand any more, y-axis being subhorizontal and z-axis pointing down. It made minor movements and it was hot. After several hours it turned upside down, with y-axis still subhorizontal, but z-axis pointing up. It did not move any more sharply, just gradually. When found, only eyelids moved.

This reminds me on a disease that occurs on both humans and birds: encephalomyelitis (enkefaliitti in Finnish). Some of its symptoms can be interpreted from Aru's telemetry. Another dignostic criteria is virus test from the body. Let see whether it is made, and what will be the outcome.

http://lrd.spc.int/ext/Disease_Manual_F ... litis.html

This actually makes a lot of sense. It might also explain poor Aru's erratic flight path.
If this is the case, then there is not much that would have helped Aru...

[Anne7]

Sova, thanks for the weather report.

EDIT: the birdmap data have been completed on 12.10

TODAY'S SUMMARY OCTOBER 11

KARULA (Hatched 20.05.2018)
Birdmap was set to spring migration and the new distance measurement started on 15.02.2019
(Total distance on 14.02.2019 = 6606 km)
Birdmap was set to autumn migration on 11.08.2019 and the new distance measurement started on 15.07.2019
(Total distance on 14.07.2019 = 3012 km)
Overall flown distance until 14.07.2019 = 9618 km
Karula arrived at Lake Eber on 17. September (= 24 days)
Last birdmap data: 11.10.2019.
Distance: 1118 km (+ 2 km in 1 day), at Lake Eber near Derekarabağ in Turkey.
Weather report on 11.10 in Derekarabağ at 10:00
Temp 2 m above the ground: 19°
Temp 500 m above the ground: 23°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 40%
Air pressure: 1022 hPa
Clouds: 40% - 100%
Wind 100 m - W (03 km/h)
Wind 250 m - W/NW (02 km/h)
Wind 500 m - NW (00 km/h)
Weather report on 11.10 in Derekarabağ at 15:00
Temp 2 m above the ground: 22°
Temp 500 m above the ground: 26°
Wind 100 m - N/NW (08 km/h)
Wind 250 m - N/NW (09 km/h)
Wind 500 m - N/NW (08 km/h)

ORU (Hatched 16.05.2019)
Oru started his first migration on 10.08.2019.
Last birdmap data: 11.10.2019.
Distance: 4054 km (+ 104 km in 1 day), south of Bekirli, Adana Province, in Turkey.

ARU (Hatched 16.05.2019)
Aru started his first migration on 17.08.2019.
Last birdmap data: 09.10.2019. Distance: 1884 km, a little north of Borki in Belarus.
On 10.10.2019, Aru has been found alive, but in poor condition, and has been taken to veterinarians in Pinsk.
On 11.10.2019, Aru died. Age: 148 days (or 4 months and 25 days). 55 days after starting his migration.

Good night, everyone.

[Treia]

October 12th

Good saturday morning!

by asteria » October 11th, 2019, 8:13 pm
The transmitter of Maru was given to Oru, Aru had the red one.

Thank you for the comment Asteria! So I remembered wrong, I thought so too.
Getting infected from Oru's transmitter would probably be quite impossible,
especially if and when it was probably disinfected.

by Jo UK » October 11th, 2019, 8:06 pm
Treia, if you find an answer please post it here.
There will be bacterial contamination of the wound from the predator's bite. Does that help much to know it? I'm not sure it will make a difference.
A viral test may show something. What does that cost? If it shows the presence of a virus, when did it occur? In which country? how long ago? To me, it seems like an intellectual exercise which may not help much. If there are other opinions, please say!

Thank you for the comment JoUK! I do not understand Russian or White Russian, so I can hardly find out nothing .
I just wondered aloud because so many versions has been told.

by Anne7 » October 11th, 2019, 4:25 pm
EDIT: Oops, I see that Jo said it already.
Well, two replies are better than none, I suppose.

Thank you Anne! Yes, two replies are better than none, especially when they are so similar

[Liz01]

There is lots of speculation again. It is not uncommon for a bird to be in the south, flying back to the place before. maybe Aru did not find any food at that place and flew where he knew he would find food. Maybe the weather conditions have changed so much that he had to go back. Why must everything be explained here, which can not be explained? We'll never know why he flew back.

[sova]

Good morning to all
Karula and Oru have new data

[Ari19]

Good morning friends ,

Thank you for the reminder Sova! Feel free to add the date if you like.

I am glad that Oru is heading further south. Hopefully Karula will follow his half-sibling too.

(It is going to be so hard to adjust... to this... absence. )

[Solo]

Hello everyone

KARULA
Distance: 1118 km, Last data: 11.10.2019
- Lake Eber (Eber Gölü) - Dere Karabağ, Bolvadin district, Afyonkarahisar Province, Turkey[/size]

[Solo]

ORU

Distance: 4054 km Last data: 11.10.2019
north from Topraklı village (south from Bekirli), Karaisalı District, Adana Province, Turkey

ORU flew not direction Iskenderun

[Solo]

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Zeynel Girente Özel Ağaçlandırma Alanı = Zeynel Girente Special Afforestation Area

https://goo.gl/maps/ieQTdVQ5VSosVJzL6