Following Karls' Families

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Karula (11.11.) - Israel
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temp; 20 °
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Humidity; 40%
Air pressure; 1018 hPa
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Karula (11.11.) - Israel
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Karula (11.11.)
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Karula (11.11.)

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11.11.

Karl - no new data
Päike - no new data
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:hi:

I didn't have the time to read all msgs, but about the mines: Someone who knows well the middle east history, said that it must be old forgotten signs, which were put there in the 1950th or 1960th, when all the little villages there, were very near the Syrian boarder and suffered from terror attacks.

Now, for 50 years, it's very far from Syria and this area is safe and visited daily by many tourists from countries around the world. Therefore all the mines are gone many years ago. So Don't worry for Karula :thumbs:
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Anne7 wrote: November 11th, 2018, 7:57 pm Ornitela apparently (automatically?) retrieves new data every 6 hours. (Not at the same time for Maru and Karula, though...)
Birdmap has to be updated (manually) by somebody, I think.
So, if we have no birdmap-update for a long(er) time (or if there are worries), we can now make a tracker map, on request. :thumbs
That's what I'd hoped. This is super! :thumbs:

What is Ornitela? Obviously I've missed something. Is it the program for the tracker map?
Anne7 wrote: November 11th, 2018, 8:32 pm We had an update on Maru and Karula! :laugh:
:laugh: :thumbs: I'm glad that Maru is still in the same area. :-)
Thank you for the pictures!

Thank you, Abigyl, for the infos about those forgotten signs! That's a relieving message.
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Michi wrote: November 11th, 2018, 9:37 pm That's what I'd hoped. This is super! :thumbs:
What is Ornitela? Obviously, I've missed something. Is it the program for the tracker map?
Michi, Ornitela is the seller (the brand) of the transmitters.
They also deliver (and monitor?) the software that retrieves and stores the data.

Jo and I learned how to convert those data into an interactive map that can be posted on the forum (as an URL)
As with everything: once you know how to do something, it is not difficult anymore. :D
So please don't hesitate to request a tracker map.

Hello, Abigyl :wave:
Many thanks for reassuring us. :thumbs:
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here you have a nice brochure about the river Senir and about nature in the area.
I'm sure that most of us will find it very interesting.

I don't know if it exist in other languages.

Enjoy !!

https://www.parks.org.il/wp-content/upl ... hureEn.pdf
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Anne7 wrote: November 11th, 2018, 7:57 pm Ornitela apparently (automatically?) retrieves new data every 6 hours. (Not at the same time for Maru and Karula, though...)
Birdmap has to be updated (manually) by somebody, I think.
I‘ve another question, because I’m not sure if I understand right. If Ornitela retrieves new data every 6 hours, does it then receive all data from the last 6 hours? Every 15 minutes?
If it would be so, in future we would be able to see detailed any location of the young storks if the GSM-Coverage is good, right?

Now it comes to my mind, that Karl has probably a different transmitter? Can we observe him the same way? But I guess it’s not possible, because then we probably already would have received a tracker map of him?

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Good morning, Michi.

The backpacks collect and save the data every 15 minutes.
Every 6 hours that information is sent to the satellite which sends it to the data collection place.
Well, I am not certain when the back pack sends the data - it could be every 15 minutes but we can collect it every 6 hours.
Birdmap - Urmas updates birdmap - if he is busy and can't do the update at a certain time, we can go to the data collection point and make a map (well, Anne can. Not sure about my browsers, yet :slap: )
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Jo UK wrote: November 12th, 2018, 11:09 am Good morning, Michi.

The backpacks collect and save the data every 15 minutes.
Every 6 hours that information is sent to the satellite which sends it to the data collection place.
Well, I am not certain when the back pack sends the data - it could be every 15 minutes but we can collect it every 6 hours.
Birdmap - Urmas updates birdmap - if he is busy and can't do the update at a certain time, we can go to the data collection point and make a map (well, Anne can. Not sure about my browsers, yet :slap: )
I think the backpack gets BS data (among other things coordinates) from GPS satellite. Backpack logs to the GPS satellite every 15 minutes and saves the data to backpack memory.
When 6 hour is gone backpack sends data via mobile phone network (GSM) to the data center (~Urmas).

from http://www.ornitela.com/30g-transmitter

GPS logging intervals: 15 minutes (our parameter is set like this)
Data storage: 4 MB flash memory capable of storing over 60,000 records (2G model), or 128 MB capable of storing nearly 2,000,000 records (3G model)
Data upload: via GSM/GPRS/3G network
GSM/GPRS network connection interval: 6 hours (our parameter)
SMS message with 10 GPS positions when GPRS/3G network is not available
Logged data are stored in memory if GSM network is unavailable
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Thank you for those details, raija.
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Good evening :hi:

Maru and Karula have new data
Weather data will follow tomorrow.

Wish you all a nice evening (if someone is at home) :D
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Thanks a lot, Jo and Raija, for the informations!

Sova, thank you for the news. Have a nice evening! :wave:
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NOVEMBER 12

Hello, everyone! :wave:

What a quiet day :D

Hello, Michi. Hello, raija.
sova wrote: November 12th, 2018, 9:14 pm Good evening :hi:
Maru and Karula have new data
Thanks, Sova! :hi:

Maru
Last data: 12.11.2018
Distance: 6969 km (+ 9 km in 1 day), same area (near Kom Umbu, Egypt)

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MARU's TRACKER MAP from today:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLrsO ... sp=sharing


Karula
Last data: 12.11.2018
Distance: 4863 km (+ 21 km in 1 day), same are (near HaGoshrim, Israel)

+ 21 km is more than usual.

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Today's traject:
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KARULA's TRACKER MAP from today:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Shbx3 ... sp=sharing

I just finished making both tracker maps, when the update on birdmap came! :slap:
So I better post them.
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MARU

Last data: 12.11.2018
Distance: 6969 km (+ 9 km in 1 day), same area

Maru today is at exactly the same place than yesterday.
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Hello Anne :wave:
Yes, a very quiet day, - a bit strange. :D
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Anne :wave: , thank you very much for your work, it's the best combination - birdmap + tracker map :2thumbsup: :D
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Hellem wrote: November 12th, 2018, 11:08 pm Anne :wave: , thank you very much for your work, it's the best combination - birdmap + tracker map :2thumbsup: :D
Hellem :wave:
You're welcome.
Yes, I agree, a tracker map of 1 complete day is also interesting. :laugh:
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Anne7 wrote: November 12th, 2018, 9:32 pm MARU's TRACKER MAP from today:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLrsO ... sp=sharing
KARULA's TRACKER MAP from today:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Shbx3 ... sp=sharing
:hi: Anne,
I like very much the tracker maps, TY very much for both :2thumbsup: :D
:wave:
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