Following Karls' Families

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UDU is o.k. :loveshower:


21.10.2021, distance 4856 km, +119 km in 1 day. Karl II flew southwards along the Jordan River valley but returned to Tirat Zvi, Israel
I'm very worried about Karl ... was he really coming back? where is he now ?? :faint:
Last year 24.10. was already in Sudan. ..
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Susanne :hi:

Bigfan :wave:
I wish I knew where Karl II is... :unsure:
In 3 days, he is probably more than 1000 kilometres away from his last known location
Hopefully we will receive data tomorrow evening. He may already be in northern Sudan by then...

Thank you, Hellem! :hi:

BIRDMAP OVERVIEW OCTOBER 24

KARL II
• Previous data: 21.10.2021, distance 4856 km, +119 km in 1 day. Karl II flew southwards along the Jordan River valley but returned to Tirat Zvi, Israel
• Still NO NEW data :puzzled:

UDU
• Previous data: 22.10.2021, distance 4555 km, +225 km in 1 day. Udu sent data near the village Leimonas and the Laconian Gulf, Peloponnese, Greece.
• NEW data: 24.10.2021, distance 4994 km, +203 km in 1 day, travelling. Udu sent data near Vainia on Crete, Greece

PIKNE
• Previous data: 22.10.2021, distance 4809 km, +385 km in 1 day, travelling. Pikne sent data near Gesher in Israel.
• NEW data: 24.10.2021, distance 5461 km, +652 km in 2 days, travelling. Pikne sent data near Hurghada in Egypt.

Overview:
Wow, look at little Katrin! She flew to Turkey today !
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Udu’s last known area - still in flight - on Crete.
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https://goo.gl/maps/ccX5dcG6ZwHee9tx9

Pikne’s current area in Egypt.
View of the Eastern Desert (or Arabic Desert, also known as the Red Sea Hills).
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... RA4a=h1440

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October 25th

:wave:

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PIKNE - OCTOBER 25th

Waiting for the data session...
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Still waiting. The data session is already 5 minutes too late...
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NO DATA today.
Next data session expected tomorrow evening.

Is there some kind of general problem with the GSM coverage / data transmission over Egypt? :puzzled:
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KARL II - OCTOBER 25th

Waiting.
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NO DATA session again!
That's the fourth day in a row.

Next data session expected: 2021-10-26 at 20:39:32 (UTC+3)

What is happening? :shock:
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UDU - OCTOBER 25th

Waiting. (Not again, please!)
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Still nothing. 5 minutes late already. :faint:
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OMG! NO DATA for little Udu either.

Is s/he currently flying over the Mediterranean? :unsure:

Next data session expected: 2021-10-26 at 20:55:04 (UTC+3)
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Good evening everybody
Anne7 wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 8:20 pm ....
Is there some kind of general problem with the GSM coverage / data transmission over Egypt? :puzzled:
here are four different providers in Egypt
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sova wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 8:44 pm
Thank you, Sova! :wave:

The coverage looks very limited, or am I mistaken? :puzzled:
Or, in other words, in many locations there seems to be no GSM coverage...
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Anne7 wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 8:51 pm ....
The coverage looks very limited, or am I mistaken? :puzzled:
Or, in other words, in many locations there seems to be no GSM coverage...
Anne, i don't think the problem is ... so far it has worked well or ...
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sova wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 8:52 pm
Yes, you are right, Sova.
In previous years we didn't have so many problems in Egypt.
Not that often, at least... :puzzled:

Edit:
But for example in the eastern desert (Arabian Desert) in Egypt, GSM coverage has always been very bad. Remember Vedru...
Only in the area along the Nile and on the coasts (i.e. where people live) we had good reception.
If I remember well.

EDIT:
None of the 3 Karula storks sent new data today! :slap:
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Anne7 wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 8:58 pm ...
EDIT:
None of the 3 Karula storks sent new data today! :slap:
Udu has bad weather today ... but Karl II and Pikne?
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I don't know, Sova.
But one thing's for sure... tracking migratory birds is not a relaxing recreation...

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BIRDMAP OVERVIEW OCTOBER 25

KARL II
• Previous data: 21.10.2021, distance 4856 km, +119 km in 1 day. Karl II flew southwards along the Jordan River valley but returned to Tirat Zvi, Israel
• NO NEW data

UDU
• Previous data: 24.10.2021, distance 4994 km, +203 km in 1 day, travelling. Udu sent data near Vainia on Crete, Greece
• NO NEW data

PIKNE
• Previous data: 24.10.2021, distance 5461 km, +652 km in 2 days, travelling. Pikne sent data near Hurghada in Egypt.
• NO NEW data
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we can only hope that this is poor signal coverage... :unsure:
Udu is also in Egypt?? :puzzled:
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bigfan wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 9:48 pm ...
Udu is also in Egypt?? :puzzled:
Bigfan :wave:

From Vainia (Ierapetra) the shortest distance (in a perfectly straight line straight south) towards the Egyptian coast, is about 375 km.
If Udu started the crossing today, he would have had a strong tail wind of about 40 km/h. With that much wind he may have had an average speed of let's say 50 km/h (at least?) :puzzled:
Birds don't fly in perfectly straight lines, so let's assume he would have at least 400 km to fly. That is possible in 8 hours at 50 km/h!
If he took off around 10:00-11:00, he could have reached the Egyptian coast by 18:00-19:00.
That would be very fast!

This is all pure speculation of course... 8-)
Maybe Udu is just out of GSM coverage somewhere on Crete.
We know nothing.
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Anne7 wrote: ↑October 25th, 2021, 10:31 pm

Thank you Anne :wave: I hope , anything is possible. .maybe we will find out the reality as soon as possible. There was enough sadness. Let's hope for success. .. :headroll:
Thanks to Everybody for your work and effort to know more.
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October 26th

:wave:

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PIKNE - OCTOBER 26th

Sorry, again no new data

Next data session expected: 2021-10-27
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KARL II - OCTOBER 26th

No new data :faint:

Next data session expected: 2021-10-27

This is the fifth day without news of Karl II. In 5 days he may have travelled 1500 - 2000 km. I don't know if we can expect any new data before next spring... :unsure:
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UDU - OCTOBER 26th

I can hardly believe it.
No new data for Udu either. :slap:

Next data session expected: 2021-10-27

Fingers crossed...
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Hello all!

It is not possible that we have lost all our storks at once.
I really hope there is something with connections and whatsoever.
I hope so much!
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We'll see when little Katrin arrives in this area. If it also disappears, we can hope that the problem is in data transfer. . :gathering:
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