Following Karls' Families

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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by sova » February 27th, 2019, 4:15 pm

Solo wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 3:07 pm
the cooperation story:
Vita Zagrebacka; puno, puno hvala za vas trud. Ljepi pozdrav vama i mom zagrebu.(a lot, thank you very much for your effort. Nice regards to you and my Zagreb.)

Solo ... you're awesome ... you did a great job.

Ahmed Waheed, Bassim Rabea, Amr Hady - Many thanks to the three gentlemen with a big heart

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Post by Anne7 » February 27th, 2019, 5:00 pm

Michi wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 1:38 am
Last update for MARU
Maru was born on 18th of May 2018.
She started her migration on 4th of August 2018 at the age of 78 days and is flown almost 8.880 km until 25th of February 2019.
Maru was 9 months and 7 days old.
Dear Maru,

Come dance with the west wind,
and touch all the mountain tops.
Sail over the canyons, and up to the stars,
and reach for the heavens, and hope for the future,
and all that we can be, not what we are.

John Denver

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Post by Summi » February 27th, 2019, 5:13 pm

Thank you all for your help and love we all share. Love between us and for all birds and animals makes it worth living. I'm sending hugs to you all with love from Summi in tears. :cry:

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Post by Michi » February 27th, 2019, 5:29 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 5:00 pm
Dear Maru,

Come dance with the west wind,
and touch all the mountain tops.
Sail over the canyons, and up to the stars,
and reach for the heavens, and hope for the future,
and all that we can be, not what we are.

John Denver

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Many thanks, Anne. This is very nice for our Maru.
Also the map that shows her long, long way to Africa.
Now I'm again in tears but that's o.k.
I'm so glad her little body was retrieved. Rest in peace, Maru.

Thank you also, Summi, for your nice words.

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Post by Abigyl » February 27th, 2019, 6:04 pm

To Solo and all those who took part in this intercontinental chaine - thank you!
It was so fast and efficient!

I join all those who have already thanked you, Mr. Amr Hady, for the great deed you have done for our special bird MARU, for research and for us - hundreds of people who have followed her from the day she hatched. You deserve all the respect and appreciation! :bow:

Some people say that the world became a cold and alienated place, but such events are very encouraging and heartwarming; It gives hope that there are still good people in the world, who give their time and energy to help others even if they are far away, and contribute to the environment and nature.

I hope someone around you will tell your story because it's so important to spread this kind of news, around us.
I'm wishing you a good life and success wherever you and your family are! Many thanks ! :wave:

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Post by sova » February 27th, 2019, 6:24 pm

Anne, Summi and Abigyl .... very nice words from you three

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Post by Liz01 » February 27th, 2019, 7:07 pm

Solo wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 3:07 pm
the cooperation story:
26.02.-09:48
a request-about-help-to-my-FB-friend Vita Zagrebacka (SOS Tesla - Save White Storks)
2..................:
Vita Zagrebacka:-"That's what social network is all about, isn't it
To help...
...
That's what the group initially was made for, to help storks in every possible way, to connect us, to be active if needed, not only to post data and photo"

.........
Dear Solo, that was a great work :loveshower: Big thank to you and all those who helped so fast :bow:

Abigyl I agree with every word you have written.

Summie, I hug you too.

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Post by sova » February 27th, 2019, 7:17 pm

Anne, Karula's weather data is available

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Post by Jo UK » February 27th, 2019, 8:42 pm

Urmas says that sending the transmitter to him by post is not a good idea. Better if someone can act as courier.

Is it a good time to ask social media if a person is willing to carry a transmitter from Egypt to Estonia?
It is a lot to ask, but maybe well worth asking.

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Post by Solo » February 27th, 2019, 8:51 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 5:00 pm
....Dear Maru,...John Denver
nice-words-(nice-song)

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Post by Anne7 » February 27th, 2019, 9:32 pm

Dear friends
I share in your sadness. All your tears make me feel even more sad.
But, as Summi said, love makes life worth living. :nod:
sova wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 7:17 pm
Anne, Karula's weather data is available
Many thanks, Sova.

Here is Karula's evening tracker map:

TRACKER MAP
Karula_Feb27_CompleteDay
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-CioQ ... sp=sharing

It has been a rainy and windy day in Nir David.
Little Karula, please take good care of yourself!

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TODAY'S SUMMARY FEBRUARY 27

KARL (Karl is probably in South Sudan)
No new data (Last data: 15.11.2018)

MARU (Maru was near the Nile in Egypt since 01.11.2018 = 117 days)
0ur little Maru perished on February 25th at about 13:00, near the Al Ballanah wastewater ponds.
(Last flight data: 25.02.2019)

PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)

KARULA
Last data: 27.02.2019
Distance: 6768 km (+ 6 km in 1 day) same area, Nir David in the Beit She'an Valley in Israel
Weather report 27.02 at 10:00
Temp: 16°; at 15:00 15°
Precipitation: 1.9 mm; at 15:00 0.6 mm
Humidity: 70%
Air pressure: 1009 hPa
Wind 100 m - SW (33 km/h); at 15:00 W/SW (42 km/h)
Wind 250 m - SW (36 km/h); at 15:00 W/SW (47 km/h)
Wind 500 m - SW (32 km/h); at 15:00 W/SW (46 km/h)
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Post by Abigyl » February 27th, 2019, 11:28 pm

About sending the Transmitter...

I don't think it's a good idea to put it on this nice man's back.

Don't forget that in some countries things like this looks suspicious and can even take people to jail and more.

If there is an Estonian Embassy or consulate there, there must be someone working for cultural or educational or this kind of affairs. There must be a way to do it "by the book" .

I'll say again, publishing this story in local media might help to make it easier.

Good Luck !

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Post by Urmas » February 27th, 2019, 11:37 pm

After a hint of watcher I sent information about found transmitter to Estonian embassy in Cairo. Will see, what they reply, could be interesting for embassy to work with Black Stork issue.
Everything works well and smooth by now!

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Post by Abigyl » February 28th, 2019, 12:09 am

Thanks Urmas!

Hope it'll work and perhaps will open new doors :thumbs:

Maru will create a better bridge between the countries :D

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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 8:02 am

Thank-you-all-for-the-kind-words:
Liz, Sova, Abigyl, Anne7 and Anne_

Abigyl, I agree with every word you have written;-as-Liz-wrote.

Vita-wrote-to-me:
That's a beautiful story...How birds connected us ❤.
How we, non professionals, are making things happen 😉
Without the group, I couldn't be of any help. And without the group, you wouldn't contact me.


Big thank there to Ahmed Waheed and Amr Hady.
They've put so much effort in that :2thumbsup:

Btw.-Urmas-wrote-to-me:
"My mailbox is today quite full of messages about Maru.., but it is nice duty to read those."

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Post by kuhankeittäjä » February 28th, 2019, 10:36 am

Anne7 wrote:
February 27th, 2019, 12:21 am
Here are the graphs. :unsure:

The 3 flat lines (x, y and z), yesterday after 13:00, indicate that Maru didn't move anymore.
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The average lowest night temperature (inside the transmitter) was between 19 and 21 degrees.
Last night the temperature dropped to 15°.
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Hi Anne!

Feel sad to see these bad news of Maru, however remember her in the nest at Karula forest (Bears village?), sheltered and fed by parents, growing up every day, until fledging.

Urmas writes that she walked a lot but still flew for overnight during the last days. Evidently she perished at the feeding grounds. The accelerometer indicates that she walked inclined to one side and after death was positioned balanced sideways, head end of the body slightly down. This was maybe caused by injury in another leg or some asymmetric load attached to her, which she could not get rid of. A predator may have consumed her toes, wild animal life as she was living, or she got some kind of net or rope around the neck. It seems as if she had fallen to the loaded side three days before perishing and twice two days before it.

Thanks for resque co-operation team due to recover the body! :bow:

:sad:

Edit: corrected the birds name

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Post by Helle » February 28th, 2019, 10:55 am

Maru dear, RIP, we will miss you. :cry:

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Post by Abigyl » February 28th, 2019, 11:06 am

kuhankeittäjä wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 10:36 am

Feel sad to see these bad news of Päike, however remember her in the nest at Karula forest (Bears village?), sheltered and feeded by parents, growing up every day, until fledging.
:sad:
Good Morning kuhankeittäjä !

Thanks for your very interesting info. All this can be seen in the graphs ? :rolleyes:

This was Maru who stayed in Egypt, not our Paike who is still considered "missing" in Greece.
You can correct the name in your own msg.

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Post by kuhankeittäjä » February 28th, 2019, 11:09 am

Self removed a duplicate of message.

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Post by kuhankeittäjä » February 28th, 2019, 11:28 am

Abigyl wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 11:06 am
Good Morning kuhankeittäjä !

Thanks for your very interesting info. All this can be seen in the graphs ? :rolleyes:

This was Maru who stayed in Egypt, not our Paike who is still considered "missing" in Greece.
You can correct the name in your own msg.
Thanks for your note. I corrected the name. Evidently I have thought too much of the mystery of Päike.

Better ask from an ornitologist what is reliable and what is not, to their experience.

Anyhow the accelerometer measures the Earths gravity field components plus movement acceleration of the bird. So the attitude of the bird can be seen from the values of acceleration, if it is not accelerating itself very fast. Standing head up can be seen as negative red component values and catching food head down as positive peaks in between. In yellow is shown whether the bird is chest down or up. Maru has totally capsized during her last falling to the side. She may have been very weak already, or a predator was attacking her, or because of some other valid reason.

To me it seems not impossible that Maru started losing its body temperature during nights 4 to 2 before perishing and had fewer in the last night. Maybe she could not get enough food daytime or was wounded or both. Interpreted from backpack temperature she perished in a shadow, where the Sun turned to shine after death.

As mentioned above, understanding accelerometer and temperature readings of backpack at a bird belong to ornitogists good professional skills, my writings are just laymans opinions for discussion of possibilities, meanwhile.

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