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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by Jo UK » February 28th, 2019, 11:36 am

Urmas requests that we do not publish further information from Maru's tracker map. He is able to follow the course of the transmitter now, but we no longer have need of that information.
Hoping for good news from the Estonian embassy about repatriation of the transmitter!

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Post by Abigyl » February 28th, 2019, 11:49 am

kuhankeittäjä wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 11:28 am
Thanks for your note. I corrected the name.

Better ask from ornitologist what is reliable and what is not, to their experience.
Thanks again for your detailed explanations!
Don't spend your precious time on me, because I'a a "lost case"! When I see graphs or even 3-4 numbers - it's "Chinese" for me. :laugh:
I'm zero in math&phisics, but excellent in statistics - never understood why 8-)

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Hello, everyone :wave:
kuhankeittäjä wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 10:36 am
Hi Anne!
... Urmas writes that she walked a lot but still flew for overnight during the last days. Evidently she perished in the feeding grounds. The accelerometer indicates that she walked inclined to one side and after death positioned balanced sideways, head side slightly down. This may be caused by injury in another leg or some asymmetric load attached to her, which she could not get rid of. Maybe a predator consumed her toes, wild animal life as she was living, or she got some kind of net or rope around the neck. It seems as if she had fallen to the loaded side three days before perishing and twice two days before it. ...
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Thank you for these thoughts, kuhankeittäjä.
I know that the inclination of the bird's body (the body posture) can be seen by the X, Y, Z values of the accelerometer, but, unfortunately, I'm unable to interpret these data. Thank you for explaining!
It sounds perturbing to hear that Maru might have had this kind of trouble. Poor little Maru!

I hope that the observations in situ (+ the photos taken by Amr), and the findings of the veterinarian can give more clarity about the cause of death.

Here is Karula's morning tracker map.
He is constantly flying the same short trajects, these days.
TRACKER MAP
Karula_Feb28_morning
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18hq_X ... sp=sharing

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Post by Abigyl » February 28th, 2019, 12:36 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 12:09 pm

Here is Karula's morning tracker map.
He is constantly flying the same short trajects, these days.
TRACKER MAP
Karula_Feb28_morning
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18hq_X ... sp=sharing
:hi: Anne7

Looks like it's very cold and rainy for Karula, but she might have good food there! I'm sure she is happy with this large choice of Fish ponds :thumbs:
http://www.ims.gov.il/IMSENG/All_Tahazit/homepage.htm

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 12:47 pm

Abigyl wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 12:36 pm
:hi: Anne7
Looks like it's very cold and rainy for Karula, but she might have good food there! I'm sure she is happy with this large choice of Fish ponds :thumbs:
http://www.ims.gov.il/IMSENG/All_Tahazit/homepage.htm
Hello, Abigyl :hi:

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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 1:10 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 12:09 pm
...Here is Karula's morning tracker map....He is constantly flying the same short trajects, these days....
:hi: Anne,
if all is good :mrgreen: https://i.postimg.cc/fyxkJbm4/Anne.jpg
(male WS named Báró in Israel)...I saw that also by another storks
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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 1:28 pm

Solo wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 1:10 pm
:hi: Anne,
if all is good :mrgreen: https://i.postimg.cc/fyxkJbm4/Anne.jpg
(male WS named Báró in Israel)...I saw that also by another storks
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Thank you, Solo! :thumbs:

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 3:15 pm

:hi:
The afternoon map:
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Karula_Feb28_afternoon
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1O8Gdn ... sp=sharing

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The same area on Zoom Earth:
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Post by sova » February 28th, 2019, 3:34 pm

good day for all :hi:

kuhankeittäjä, thank you for the understandable explanation, :2thumbsup: unfortunately very sad

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 5:14 pm

Hello, Sova :wave:

This is an areal view of Karula's current area (zoomed), if I do not mistake.
Solo, do you think that it is correct? :puzzled:
The fields look different.

April 2018
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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 5:28 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 5:14 pm
...Solo, do you think that it is correct? :puzzled: ...
probably no - see the irrigated circles, maybe the east area is on dron view
EDIT:west :blush:
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here I think
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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 5:35 pm

Solo wrote:
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probably no - see the irrigated circles, maybe the east area is on dron view
Yes, that is what I meant. The field is different. :nod:
That big irrigated circle between the night area and the breakfast area is different (new?). A field could change within one season.
But the shape of the ponds look quite the same to me. :puzzled:
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Post by sova » February 28th, 2019, 5:40 pm

Where did you find these colors? Did the pictures fall in color pot? :D
a little joke :mrgreen:

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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 5:41 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 5:35 pm
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here zoomed...nooo,that is the west area
I wrote in previous comment east :blush:
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Karula is east

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 5:44 pm

sova wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 5:40 pm
Where did you find these colors? Did the pictures fall in color pot? :D
a little joke :mrgreen:
The pictures were taken by an optimistic photographer, I think :mrgreen:
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Post by sova » February 28th, 2019, 5:47 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 5:44 pm
The pictures were taken by an optimistic photographer, I think :mrgreen:
he / she was very optimistic or he / she had * blue phase * :rolleyes:

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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 6:22 pm

Anne,
good view on the area where is our Karula

KARULA
Nir David (Gan Hashlosha) from bird's eye view- :2thumbsup: (also-the-ponds-and-the-fields)
https://youtu.be/eyZkewQhnMY

(already here:viewtopic.php?p=634078#p634078)

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Post by Anne7 » February 28th, 2019, 6:26 pm

Solo wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 6:22 pm
Anne,
good view on the area where is our Karula

KARULA
Nir David (Gan Hashlosha) from bird's eye view- :2thumbsup: (also-the-ponds-and-the-fields)
https://youtu.be/eyZkewQhnMY

(already here:viewtopic.php?p=634078#p634078)
Many thanks, Solo! :2thumbsup:

That bird's eye view video is great!
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Post by Solo » February 28th, 2019, 6:39 pm

Anne7 wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 6:26 pm
...
you're welcome

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Post by sova » February 28th, 2019, 7:18 pm

Anne
Karula's data is available
Wish you all a nice evening :wave:

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