Following Karls' Families

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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by Treia » September 13th, 2018, 11:27 am

:hi: Karl's Family -topic

No updates - very understandable, but a little bit unfortunate on the best migration time.
Does not Urmas have any help during his holidays?

Thank you Anne for a wonderful Windy! :D

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Post by Swenja » September 13th, 2018, 7:46 pm

I think they are all in Africa. :rolleyes:

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Post by Treia » September 13th, 2018, 11:12 pm

:wave:
Good evening all!

Yeah, at least in Egypt, somewhere along the Nile, and Päike somewhere near Cairo...
and we haven't seen nothing about those flyingtrips over the Mediterranean Sea...
but really I don't know at all where they are at the moment. :whistling:


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Post by Swenja » September 14th, 2018, 6:10 am

September 14

Good Morning!

new data :D yesterday, September 13

Maru 2572 km
Paike 1249 km
Karula 1739 km
Karl 1652 km

Eedi for comparison: He is already in Turkey. :laugh: 2790 km

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Post by Solo » September 14th, 2018, 8:43 am

Swenja wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:10 am
... Eedi for comparison: He is already in Turkey. :laugh: 2790 km
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Post by Hellem » September 14th, 2018, 10:59 am

Maru (+94 km), Karula (+51 km) and Karl (+30 km) are still in the same area
Päike - 1249 km (+116 km) flew to the south and found a new feeding place in Ukraine near Vasyuchyn and Svirzh River

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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:14 am

Hello, everyone! :wave:
Thanks for the info.

Karl
Distance: 1652 km (+ 30 km in 3 days)
Last data: 13.09.2018

Still in the same area.
Latest movements in red.

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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:16 am

Maru
Distance: 2572 km (+ 94 km in 3 days)
Last data: 13.09.2018

Still in the same area

Maru's latest excursion in blue
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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:19 am

Päike
Distance: 1249 km (+ 116 km in 3 days)
Last data: 13.09.2018

Päike flew to the south and found a new feeding place in Ukraine near Vasyuchyn on the Svirzh River

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Location 10.09
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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:20 am

Päike's new location.
Feeding on a pond near the Svirzh River in Vasyuchyn. 8-)

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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:24 am

Karula
Distance: 1739 km (+ 51 km in 3 days)
Last data: 13.09.2018

Karula is till in the same area, but on another pond, near Dubova.

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Feeding on a small pond
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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 11:54 am

Karula

A closer view on the pond near Dubova.
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The water level seems to be low.
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Post by Treia » September 14th, 2018, 12:24 pm

Hello, and Thank you very much for the updates :loveshower:

Päike is already on the Marus route ...
and Osprey Elena seems to be deep in Africa.

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Post by kuhankeittäjä » September 14th, 2018, 1:50 pm

Anne7 wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 11:54 am
Karula

The water level seems to be low.
Thanks Anne7 and Swenja.

Sure. Evidently, the pond is so close to the hydrographic divide that local rain only can fill this water reserve of the village Dubova. Most water stored in spring has been consumed during the summer. The remaining water world tries to survive in an artificial ditch on the bottom of the pond, where Karula feeds. The pond locates c. 5km in NS-direction from Yemtsi but is more than 1000 km closer to Black Sea by river, because the waterway via North, river Dnieper and its tributaries is much longer than via Southern Buh which runs towards the sea. Now, the Mediterranean type diet of the BS may feel different, both by species and taste.

The remaining rivers on estimated migration route down to Southern Sudan all belong to the Mediterranean Basin drainage, except river Jordan. There the BS may find some exotic food.

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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 4:23 pm

Treia wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 12:24 pm
Hello, and Thank you very much for the updates :loveshower:
Päike is already on the Marus route ...
:hi:
Yes, Maru was at the same place on September 1st. :D

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Currently, Päike is about 100 km away from Maru.
We will see if Päike will continue her/his journey towards Maru's current location, or not.

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It is remarkable that Päike seems to be much more 'economical' with her/his energy.
She/he flew only about half the kilometres of Maru to cover the same distance.
(Päike 1249 km, Maru 2572 km)
Päike only flies long distances to travel 'southwards'.
Once she has found a good feeding area, she does not make local, energy-consuming excursions.
On the other hand, Maru has surely much more 'flying experience' by now.
I have no idea what might be the best strategy.

The overview on September 13 of Karl and his storklets.

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Post by Summi » September 14th, 2018, 5:58 pm

Thank you Anne and everyone. :wave:
Papa Karl is the direction indicator going ahead, his siblings are following him! Great! :D

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Post by Anne7 » September 14th, 2018, 6:10 pm

Summi :hi:
kuhankeittäjä wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 1:50 pm
... The remaining water world tries to survive in an artificial ditch on the bottom of the pond, where Karula feeds. ...
"... Foraging for food takes place mostly in fresh water, though the black stork may look for food on dry land at times.
The black stork wades patiently and slowly in shallow water, often alone or in a small group if food is plentiful. ..."


The blue lines on this map probably indicate where Karula has been wading in 'shallow water'.
So at those 'blue' lines, the water is (approximately) between 5 and 40 cm deep?

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I believe that this could be the current situation of the pond.
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Post by kuhankeittäjä » September 14th, 2018, 8:54 pm

Anne7 wrote:
September 14th, 2018, 6:10 pm
The blue lines on this map probably indicate where Karula has been wading in 'shallow water'.
So at those 'blue' lines, the water is (approximately) between 5 and 40 cm deep?

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I believe that this could be the current situation of the pond.
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I agree with IN and OUT locations and directions. However, data on Karula's movements is represented only at corner points of the coloured lines, at 30 minutes sampling rate. Some of these may be snapshots in flight or during walk to check objects on muddy bottom of mostly dry pond. Or, is sampling closer during feeding? Dense pattern of corners would represent main feeding area. It locates in front of OUT. This really would mean that there is more water of depth 5 - 40 cm than elsewhere, whether it is a finger of underwater land or a ditch. It could be a ditch to collect water there, because the majority of corners are around and not inside the pattern area and one cannot see any signs of elevated bottom there, although the water level is low in the air photo. So, in the central part of the feeding area the water depth would be more than 40cm?

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Post by Hellem » September 15th, 2018, 10:28 am

New data

14.09
Maru - 2587 km (+15 km), the same area in Ukraine
Karula - 1766 km (+27 km), the same area in Ukraine

15.09
Päike - 1290 km (+41 km), flew to the south but returned to the same place on the Svirzh River

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Post by Anne7 » September 15th, 2018, 10:53 am

September 15
Hellem wrote:
September 15th, 2018, 10:28 am
New data
14.09
Maru - 2587 km (+15 km), the same area in Ukraine
Karula - 1766 km (+27 km), the same area in Ukraine
15.09
Päike - 1290 km (+41 km), flew to the south but returned to the same place on Svirzh River
:wave:
Thanks, Hellem!
Hello, everyone.


Maru
Distance: 2587 km (+ 15 km)
Last data: 14.09.2018

Still in the same area in Ukraine

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A visit to an industrial area in Horudenka, near the Typ'yachka River (and the railway).

The Honcharni Maysterni "Pokut·sʹka Keramika" on the map (below) is a ceramics factory. :laugh:
https://pokutska-keramika.com

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