Latvian black storks - 2020/2021

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16:24 no further delivery till now
16:25 healthy ps to the right by one of them

17:11 nothing news .. only two feedings till now. they are for sure pretty hungry
17:37 a airplane .. very loud

storklets are laying in the nest ..

the fifth day with less food
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Liz01 wrote: August 5th, 2021, 4:25 pm... the fifth day with less food
:unsure:
parents are still coming, so hope is still there - finger crossed very much
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18:27 poor hungry kids
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18:28 Feeding by Grafiene
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It looks like bigger fish, but I could not see how much. The stream was not good at that time
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19:41 storklets are sleeping again
I hope Grafs brings food too!

three feedings till now
The oldest is 55 days old. still 5 days until the first possible fledge (The earliest documented fledge was 56 days in a nest with 4 chicks) On average, they spend 65-72 days in the nest, depending on the food available.

Hatch Times:
June 12th #1 is today 55 days old
June 14th #2 is today 53 days old
June 15th #3 is today 52 days old


BTW: There are documented cases of late broods.
In late broods or 2nd clutch, the chicks often do not fledge until the end of August or beginning of September.
For example, on a nest in Schleswig-Holstein, as well as on 2 nests in Mecklenburg-Pomerania.
since they were without a transmitter, it is not known whether they made it to Africa


Because of the food supply, I do not expect an early development. They first will fledge around August 21st. That is still a long time!
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Solo wrote: August 5th, 2021, 6:24 pm
parents are still coming, so hope is still there - finger crossed very much
Solo, a few days with three feedings :unsure:
that's enough not to starve to death, but not enough for development. One cannot estimate how much they bring. You hardly see anything.
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Liz01 wrote: August 5th, 2021, 7:47 pmSolo, a few days with three feedings :unsure: that's enough not to starve to death, but not enough for development. One cannot estimate how much they bring. You hardly see anything.
:bow: (with amount of food I am not sure also in Jőgeva :puzzled: )

we know from the beginning that it will be a miracle if they fly away happily - I still hope, but I remain a realist
finger crossed for all this years chicks

btw. today I read (https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 93#p821793)
2020. aastal saavutas lennuvõime teadaolevalt vaid kümme must-toonekure poega kogu Eestis.
(GT :mrgreen: In 2020, only ten sons of black storks were known to achieve airworthiness throughout Estonia. )
10 (!) fledlings
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August 6

Good Morning :hi:

Solo wrote: August 5th, 2021, 8:15 pm .....
we know from the beginning that it will be a miracle if they fly away happily - I still hope, but I remain a realist
finger crossed for all this years chicks
Solo, it doesn't help me to know that it can happen. It would be very difficult for me. you know that if you watch for a long time, you like them very, very much.

there were no further delivery yesterday evening

7:09
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8:37 still without breakfast.. they are waiting
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empty crop by all.. no ps
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:hi: Liz, Solo and others!

Now all is up to watchers... At least they can try to prevent bad ending. :slap:
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Liz01 wrote: August 6th, 2021, 8:34 amSolo, it doesn't help me to know that it can happen. It would be very difficult for me. you know that if you watch for a long time, you like them very, very much. .... empty crop by all.. no ps
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:nod: doesn't help. We both (and all the other observers) freely decided to follow them, to enter our hearts ...
There is always a risk of loss, even under good conditions, and we have already experienced them. We also experienced the loss of already big storklets in my beloved Gemenc (two consecutive seasons). It still hurts, also now tears welled up.
I hope, hope, hope

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preening the sibling
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9:36 I'm away for a few hours. I can't watch this
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asteria wrote: August 6th, 2021, 9:08 am :hi: Liz, Solo and others!

Now all is up to watchers... At least they can try to prevent bad ending. :slap:
Dear asteria, Liz, Solo and other observers!

I was willing to help those storklets, when talks about bad ending started. All I recieved back was “let nature take care itself” and “we are not going to interfere”… So I stopped watching to protect myself from all this. Thought I was checking how the situation is…

Māris just wrote in chat:
We all know that there is no compassion to nature here, thus it is better not to talk about it.
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schwarzstorch wrote: August 6th, 2021, 11:26 am
Dr. Maris Strazds, 5 May 2021
.... "If there are eggs, if they hatch and no predators interfere, then the most likely scenario in this nest is that the chicks will starve to death as the parents will stop feeding them because of lack of food. Get used to the idea"
..."Forestry is accountable at the best to the money-lending banks and to its own income, but not to the forest or to what lives in it. Do you think you can change that? Then start a campaign for the drainage system cleaners, in order to explain them their responsibility (towards this nest), to install at least 4 feeding places around the nest (each bird has its own feeding areas, which hardly overlap, and "one for each" is a too risky situation), which must have water and at least 1kg of live small fish every day. Already now."
(https://www.facebook.com/DzivibasLidoju ... 9372773289 )
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I accept Maris Strazd's decision. I think like him. It wouldn't make sense to feed them or take them to a zoo.

There will be no discussion in the chat about this matter. the chatter will not be able to decide what to do with the storks. they should do it like me ... just stop watching if you can't stand it.

12:30 no feeding till now!
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12:30 danger! Goshawk is waiting
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12:37 strong gusts of wind!
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13:40 Grafine :headroll:
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small fishes are brought..
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and off she goes
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13:46 Grafs :loveshower:
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wohooo!
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he brought fishes - that looks great!
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what a relief! that was a great feeding by the parents
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at last I can see a bigger crop
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14:25 it's pretty windy :slap:
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little ones are active again :innocent:
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