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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 7:19 pm
by Liz01
Michi wrote: August 11th, 2018, 6:34 pm ............
Thank you very much, Liz, Solo and all who have taken part at the forum for the detailed documentation, wonderful pictures, interesting videos and comments. :bow::2thumbsup: I think, it was a wonderful season we could experience.
See you all again next spring! :wave:
You're welcome Michi :laugh:
I really hope we all see us in the nest spring. And maybe you have more time for our storks. :bow: :2thumbsup:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 7:25 pm
by Abigyl
:wave:

That's it? you closed another year!

I hope the nest will be fixed for next season and they'll come back in good condition :thumbs:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 11th, 2018, 8:15 pm
by Sue
Good bye, dear Kaupo!

Liz thanks also for your good bye video with Kaupo :2thumbsup: .

See you in spring again (or earlier in another thread :laugh: ), Liz, Solo, Michi, Birdfriend and all other watchers!

Liz, do you know anything new about our Ozols? If I remember well (?) your wrote that storklets were visible in his nest this season. Can we assume that it was his family?

Good evening to all of you :wave:

I also send lot of thanks to Looduskalender and sending a financial contribution there.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 8:28 am
by Liz01
August 12

Good Morning Black Stork Lovers :hi:

A empty nest :sad:
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Storklets last stay at nest:
The first starts his on August 8 at 13:23
The second on August 9 at 19:40
The third on August 9 at 19:40
The fourth on August 10 at 15:03

Gaja's last day in the nest was on August 9 at 14:02 (also the last feeding by her)
Kaupo last feeding on August 9 at 19:35

Kaupo has arrived on August 10 at 19:10
Kaupo starts migration on August at 5:56

The age of the Storklets at the start of their migration
Assuming that they leave the nest in the order of hatching, then
the oldest migrated at the age of 82,6 days
the second at the age of 83 days
the third at the age of 81 days
the fourth at the age of 80 days

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 8:54 am
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: August 12th, 2018, 8:28 am ... Good Morning Black Stork Lovers :hi: A empty nest :sad:
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Good morning Liz,
also here the BS season come to an end :shake:
Have a nice day without PC :mrgreen:
:wave:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 9:05 am
by Liz01
Liz01 wrote: August 11th, 2018, 3:51 pm 15:49 Visitor in the nest. I expected something like that. I think it's the owner of the last year
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I'm wrong :blush: I was not really sure, I just guessed it! Also that we have a new couple. But I read that in the Latvian forum and probably misunderstood. The good thing is, when you actually get feedback!

I found it:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 84#p573184
Latvian is not easy!

I've wrote in the chat:
We know that another couple was in this nest last year. At the beginning and also during the season there were some fights. Whether this is the former owner, I can not say

Comment (s) on today's stranger (M.S.)
Why do you think so? I’m pretty certain that Kaupo is the former „Eigentümer” – although this term is certainly not appropriate – he doesn’t own the place; at most he uses it and even then he might just co-use it – assumption that male is „owner” at the end of the day may appear to be wrong. He just happened to arrive a little later than some other male, whom he kicked out. Before that two females kicked out each other, so nesting pair both are second in each of sexes. I have some pictures of last year breeding bird, presumably male – it had very strong up curved beak – just like Kaupo had. Could check for similarities – will do so some day when there will be time for that.

Second – I guess that this bird is a female (7:3). Could check with the 1st arrived bird if pictures videos/exist but, very likely this could be ANY strange stork passing bye. That is very normal behavior – to use strange nest for „short landing”. We have dozens of evidences from trail-cameras.

Thank you, Maris. I still have to learn a lot!

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 9:36 am
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: August 12th, 2018, 9:05 am ... Comment (s) on today's stranger (M.S.) ...
this could be ANY strange stork passing bye. That is very normal behavior – to use strange nest for „short landing”. We have dozens of evidences from trail-cameras. ...
Liz, you are right with visitor - no Kaupo, no Gaja (Michi :laugh: ), but strange stork :thumbs:
without ring or another very specific differentia it is all still only speculation who is who :mrgreen:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 10:44 am
by Rita
The documentation on this thread was perfect - not overloaded with a flood of more or less the same pictures, not spammed, there was no competition of who posts most. Only useful objective comments - was a pleasure to follow. :nod: Thank you to all contributors. :wave:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 7:10 pm
by Liz01
Rita wrote: August 12th, 2018, 10:44 am The documentation on this thread was perfect - not overloaded with a flood of more or less the same pictures, not spammed, there was no competition of who posts most. Only useful objective comments - was a pleasure to follow. :nod: Thank you to all contributors. :wave:
Rita, thank you for your very kind words. :2thumbsup:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 12th, 2018, 9:02 pm
by Birdfriend
Hello and good bye to all watchers and writers in this topic!

Liz, the most thanks go to you...it was a very good season in this nest, great parents and their wonderful and healthy offsprings, which were very nice to each other. When a season is over we bird lovers are always a bit sentimental.
I send greetings to Liz, Solo, Sue and Michi and hope, that we can meet us again in the next spring.
Have a good time! :wave: :wave:

Liz, especially thanks for the last pics from the last visits from Kaupo and the other stork.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 7:43 am
by Liz01
August 13


Good Morning Solo, Sue, Birdfreind and everyone :hi:

Birdfriend :hi: you are welcome.
not the amount of postings is crucial. Everyone does it the way he has time. I was happy about every post :2thumbsup:


Interesting to know!
It has been documented here in various threads, that there are greenish excretions was seen.
That's not feces, it's creamy urine.

(I'm just reading about the danger to the legs when the storks have rings.)
This creamy urine dries cementitiously on the rings and prevents the excrement from running down the legs. This causes the legs to become constricted.
So I am very happy that the Estonian chicks have backpacks and no leg transmitters.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 8:25 am
by chrisitz
So it is also for me time to say goodbye and thank you all for your reportings.
The best wishes to our storks and we will stay in contact! :wave:

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 8:27 am
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: August 13th, 2018, 7:43 am ...(I'm just reading about the danger to the legs when the storks have rings.) This creamy urine dries cementitiously on the rings and prevents the excrement from running down the legs. This causes the legs to become constricted. ...
:hi: Liz,
already even wiki (by WS): "Birds that have been ringed can sometimes be affected by the accumulation of droppings around the ring leading to constriction and leg trauma."
in Lefebvre, Louis; Nicolakakis, Nektaria; Boire, Dennis (2002). "Tools and brains in birds". Behaviour. 139 (7): 939–73. http://biology.mcgill.ca/faculty/lefebv ... l_2002.pdf

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 9:52 am
by asteria
:hi: everybody!
It looks like the storklets left the nest earlier than in Lodz and Karula because it got ruined and it is not comfortable to stay there anymore.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 1:19 pm
by Liz01
13:17 Kaupo has arrived home :loveshower: :loveshower: He destroyed my beautiful statistics with his arrival :mrgreen:
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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 1:27 pm
by Liz01
It's him :innocent:
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https://youtu.be/fzLIGMbTHJs

13:28 starts preening himself. It is so nice to see him again :headroll:
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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 1:45 pm
by Liz01
13:50 He is still preeening. That was a very short migration :laugh:
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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 1:48 pm
by Liz01
Solo wrote: August 13th, 2018, 8:27 am :hi: Liz,
already even wiki (by WS): "Birds that have been ringed can sometimes be affected by the accumulation of droppings around the ring leading to constriction and leg trauma."
in Lefebvre, Louis; Nicolakakis, Nektaria; Boire, Dennis (2002). "Tools and brains in birds". Behaviour. 139 (7): 939–73. http://biology.mcgill.ca/faculty/lefebv ... l_2002.pdf
Solo, Thank you for your reply! :2thumbsup: It was totally new to me!

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 1:59 pm
by Liz01
13:58 he shakes his plumage

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018

Posted: August 13th, 2018, 2:03 pm
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: August 13th, 2018, 1:45 pm ... That was a very short migration :laugh: ...
:rotf:
still some sort of surprise :whistling: