Black Stork Nest in Karula - 2018

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Post by UteL. » April 25th, 2018, 8:59 pm

It's raining..

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Post by Liz01 » April 25th, 2018, 9:06 pm

Anne7 wrote:
April 25th, 2018, 8:47 pm
Yes, Liz, I know, often it happens by accident, because a parent doesn't watch his steps.

But if you would check this, this time (in the archive), you would see that it looked completely different. It didn't look like an accident, it wasn't an unintended, clumsy stepping on the eggs. In my opinion. :puzzled:
I will take a look, but not today.. for me it is enough :bow: I need a break. Tomorrow after my work I will do it.
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Post by Anne7 » April 25th, 2018, 9:11 pm

UteL. wrote:
April 25th, 2018, 8:24 pm
They set foot on the chicks to test their body tension, e.g. They check the state of development.
Ute, do you have a reference for this?
Has this been observed/described by others, too?
I mean: how do you 'know' this?
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Post by UteL. » April 25th, 2018, 9:20 pm

Anne, these are common thoughts of me and other stork observers, I have been observing storks for 20 years. I have not seen a dead-trampled chick yet. A stork father calmed me down right at the beginning:"that hardly happens ..." .

Coincidentally today I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4L8Md8eWQ

Did Kati come?

edit: A stork father is responsible for stork protection in Germany

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Post by UteL. » April 25th, 2018, 9:52 pm

Kati will come tomorrow!?

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Post by Anne7 » April 25th, 2018, 10:25 pm

UteL. wrote:
April 25th, 2018, 9:20 pm
Anne, these are common thoughts of me and other stork observers, I have been observing storks for 20 years. I have not seen a dead-trampled chick yet. A stork father calmed me down right at the beginning:"that hardly happens ..." .

edit: A stork father is responsible for stork protection in Germany
Ute, I wasn't asking about "chicks being trampled to death", by accident.
Thank heavens this doesn't seem to happen frequently. :D

I only wanted to know where you have heard/read that "Storks put their foot on the chicks to test their body tension, to check their development."
I don't say that it's impossible, I just was interested to know if there is a reference for this "statement".

Apparently, birds have a very good developed sense of touch:
"Some birds also have large numbers of vibration sensors called Herbot's corpuscles located in their legs. These allow them to detect the approach of other birds or predators along both the ground and on the limbs of trees. Herbot's corpuscles have also come to play a role in the nuptial displays of certain species of grouse. This ability to detect very faint vibrations has also been suggested as a reason why birds seem to know when an earthquake is about to happen before we humans have any idea about it."
https://www.earthlife.net/birds/touch.html

So, maybe, yes, maybe they can really feel "what is happening" inside an egg?
And get some information about the development of a chick? :puzzled:
Wouldn't that be wonderful?! :D

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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 6:13 am

April 26

Good Morning :wave:

4:45 a bird calls, yet nothing to see

5:19
Karl(?) alone with 4 eggs
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No Kati is here :D
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6:57
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You've done some research, Thank You Anne :D

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Post by Liz01 » April 26th, 2018, 6:39 am

UteL. wrote:
April 25th, 2018, 9:20 pm
Anne, these are common thoughts of me and other stork observers, I have been observing storks for 20 years. I have not seen a dead-trampled chick yet. A stork father calmed me down right at the beginning:"that hardly happens ..." .

Coincidentally today I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA4L8Md8eWQ


edit: A stork father is responsible for stork protection in Germany
Ute a also saw never a dead trampled chick

That what you wrote is human thinking and interpretation.
I have read, that you think that the chicks are eduacated up by the parents, so they do not poop into the nest. And you're thinking that old storks are like old humans and therefore poop in the nest.
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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 6:47 am

Anne7 wrote:
April 25th, 2018, 10:25 pm

Apparently, birds have a very good developed sense of touch:
"Some birds also have large numbers of vibration sensors called Herbot's corpuscles located in their legs. These allow them to detect the approach of other birds or predators along both the ground and on the limbs of trees. Herbot's corpuscles have also come to play a role in the nuptial displays of certain species of grouse. This ability to detect very faint vibrations has also been suggested as a reason why birds seem to know when an earthquake is about to happen before we humans have any idea about it."
https://www.earthlife.net/birds/touch.html

So, maybe, yes, maybe they can really feel "what is happening" inside an egg?
And get some information about the development of a chick? :puzzled:
Wouldn't that be wonderful?! :D
Yes, the storks probably already know when the mouse comes out of the hole and they lock in time :D

Anne, I suggest we continue discussing when the chicks are around. Then these moments will occur especially in the first "critical days".

But also later, before they can be left alone in the nest.

I keep them as pictures in any case, I know best what I mean! There are many different nuances.

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8:28 Karl retour
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Kati is airing (or wants to hug the world)
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Post by Anne7 » April 26th, 2018, 11:37 am

UteL. wrote:
April 26th, 2018, 6:47 am
Anne, I suggest we continue discussing when the chicks are around. Then these moments will occur especially in the first "critical days".
But also later, before they can be left alone in the nest.
I keep them as pictures in any case, I know best what I mean! There are many different nuances.
OK! Deal. Convince us, Ute! :D
I have no time today and tomorrow.
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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 1:49 pm

One thing we have definitely achieved is awareness of this topic. :wave: I wish a constructive exchange of views with many interested stork friends please.
Thanks, Anne, for this topic. I am here to expand my knowledge!

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Kati is 8:50 away...

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Post by Summi » April 26th, 2018, 2:16 pm

14:14
Last days whenever I log in, there's always Karl on the eggs. Kati has got tired if brooding? :puzzled:

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16:38 Kati scratching and lying down on the eggs

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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 4:38 pm

Karl alone...

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Thu 26.04. 16:32 local time

Weather report Valga
In the next few days the weather in Valga will be a mixture of clouds and sun.
It always comes back to showers, especially on Saturday.
The daily maximum temperatures are at Valga at 11 degrees.
Especially on Thursday a partly strong wind blows from the west.

too cold for Kati's food?

edit: Kati here, just arrived TY Summi :D

16:15 Kati retour

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Post by Liz01 » April 26th, 2018, 6:55 pm

Pictures from the old nest
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and the new nest
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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 7:00 pm

Liz01 wrote:
April 26th, 2018, 6:55 pm
Pictures from the old nest

Yes :
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April 24th, 2018, 4:46 pm
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Is this already linked:

http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/2277#cam

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Post by Liz01 » April 26th, 2018, 7:24 pm

UteL. wrote:
April 26th, 2018, 7:00 pm
Yes :
Is this already linked:
http://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/2277#cam

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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 7:35 pm

19:31 Kati is tired
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Post by Lussi05 » April 26th, 2018, 8:17 pm

Good evening :hi:

20:10 - Kati was preening, shaking fearhers..
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...and down on the eggs.
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Thank you for updates and information, everybody :wave:

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Post by UteL. » April 26th, 2018, 9:44 pm

Hi Lussi, TY!

21:14 Karl retour

Good Night :wave:

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Post by Michi » April 27th, 2018, 2:29 am

Liz01 wrote:
April 26th, 2018, 6:55 pm
Pictures from the old nest
Thanks a lot, Liz, for these pictures! I didn't know them before. Now I finally know where the new nest is in relation to the old one. And one can see, how ruined the old nest is. :faint:
It was a good idea from Urmas and his colleagues, to build the new nest directly beside the old. And very good, that the tree allowed to do so.

Thank you also everybody for the reports, videos and pictures! :2thumbsup:
Anne7, your pictures are really beautiful! So clear and in natural colours. :D :thumbs:

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