Following Karls' Families

[Anna_]

Thank you Treia, Abigyl, Solo! I couldn’t agree more. I think it‘s totally inappropriate to claim a bird‘s death as long as there is no proof. Many thanks again for all your hard work and great reports!

[Liz01]

There are new data by KARULA

Distance 4755 km ( + 6 km)


He/She is still in the same area


over the fish pond

[Made]

About the stork BS 15012 from Lithuania I'm not sure if I have understand correctly. Did he die in that watering basin?

Hello Michi!
Such "flower" we can see in places of dead BS, if transmitter continues to sent signals, which usually are not exactly of one point..
I tried to find something about both storks final flights in .lt sites then in 2015, but unsuccesfully..



here we can take a look of water basin (move arround)
https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/108 ... !1e1?hl=lv

and here - read about Yatir forest http://www.kkl-jnf.org/tourism-and-recr ... orest.aspx

[Liz01]

New data by MARU
She / He has flown in the right direction

Distance 6444 km ( + 101km )


I'm waiting for Michi for beautiful pictures I was so happy to see, that he/she is on the "right" side now

[pazi]

I am just taking in account all known facts and draw a logical conclusion.

Actually a much more logical conclusion would be that Päike's transmitter broke, since the track stopped so suddenly.
Even a dead bird would still transmit, when floating near enough to a base station or e.g. a cruise ship that provides its own cell network for passengers.

We'll only know for sure once the rings are spotted or the transmitter comes back to life. No use speculating endlessly either way.

[Anne7]

Hello, everyone!
Thanks for all info and comments!

New data by MARU
She / He has flown in the right direction :

Hi, Liz
Wow, this is good news! Wonderful!

Many thanks, also for your update on Karula!

Liz, you wrote, some time ago on this topic, that BS don't eat saltwater fish (only freshwater fish).
As I worried about Maru's location, I wanted to know it for sure.
(There is probably a lot of fish in this area, along the coast, but only saltwater fish...)

On the website from Kotkaklubi I found this information:
Feeding habits
The main food of the black stork includes all kinds of fish and amphibians that it prefers to catch from small forest rivers and ditches. On rarer occasions, the black stork can be seen feeding from lakes, fish ponds, shallow seawater, and meadows. ...
http://www.kotkas.ee/species/black-stork

I also found this pdf. It gives us some reassuring info.
"Prey selection of the Black stork in the African wintering area"
"... Energy assimilation of black storks is almost twofold higher than the estimated daily energy expenditure. This study suggests that the quantity of food would satisfy the energy requirements of the species during the winter in Africa, enable them to store reserves and ensure their survival in the African areas. ..."
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ering_area

[baska]

Good morning all together

Hooray! MARU has crossed the Suez Gulf !!!



She is filled with surprises !

[pazi]

New data by MARU
She / He has flown in the right direction

We need a "like" system for the posts here...

[Jo UK]

While it is always desirable to give all the information we can find, which is relevant to our topic, I must ask that pictures showing birds which have died or come to grief in any way can be very disturbing to our members. Please do not post the picture, but do post a link to it, with a warning that it may be unpleasant to view.

So relieved that Maru found the right way

[Jo UK]

Thanks again, to Urmas. Here is Paike's last data.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dSkn8 ... sp=sharing

[Liz01]

.......
Liz, you wrote, some time ago on this topic, that BS don't eat saltwater fish (only freshwater fish).
As I worried about Maru's location, I wanted to know it for sure.
(There is probably a lot of fish in this area, along the coast, but only saltwater fish...)
..............

Anne
young black storks, half-starved was brought to the zoo of riga. There was an appeal to bring freshwater fish because the zoo has only saltwater fish.
Maris Stradzs started this call.
I will search for the page .. it will take a while

[Anne7]

Anne
young black storks, half-starved was brought to the zoo of riga. There was an appeal to bring freshwater fish because the zoo has only saltwater fish.
Maris Stradzs started this call.
I will search for the page .. it will take a while

Thanks, Liz!
Perhaps this is something that still needs to be investigated...
There is conflicting information.
As Solo has already emphasized: there is still much to be researched about BS

Thanks again, to Urmas. Here is Paike's last data.

Many thanks, Jo and Urmas!
These data are very interesting.

[Michi]

New data by MARU :loveshower
She / He has flown in the right direction :bow

Distance 6444 km ( + 101km )
....
I'm waiting for Michi for beautiful pictures. laugh: I was so happy to see, that he/she is on the "right" side now :innocent

Hello all,
I can't believe it! Inconceivably!
This stork is really full of surprises. After yesterdays route I never expected that .
I'm sooo relieved. What a joy and happiness!

Have a nice day all! I will do pictures in the evening, as I'm on work now.

[Treia]

Thanks again, to Urmas. Here is Paike's last data.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dSkn8 ... sp=sharing

Thank you very much Jo UK and Urmas !!!

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by Liz01 » November 1st, 2018, 12:35 pm
New data by MARU
She / He has flown in the right direction
Distance 6444 km ( + 101km )

Thanks for this very happy news of Maru, that she has successfully crossed the Suez Gulf !

[asteria]

I think it‘s totally inappropriate to claim a bird‘s death as long as there is no proof. Many thanks again for all your hard work and great reports!

Yes, I agree with you. The only thing that can be claimed for sure that the transmitter does not work. If the bird is dead, its transmitter continues send signals.

[Liz01]

Thanks, Liz!
Perhaps this is something that still needs to be investigated...
There is conflicting information.
As Solo has already emphasized: there is still much to be researched about BS
.........

Anne,
I recently saw a report on television about the North Sea and the Wadden Sea. A white stork could be seen on the Wattemeer., That was very unusual.
There is a report, that the white storks on the island of Föhr are eating
crabs and mussels in winter. That's also unusual.,
It is believed that this knowledge is passed on from the adult storks to the juvenile storks.

the article is unfortunately in German
https://www.zeit.de/2014/39/weissstorch-foehr-nordsee

If there are exceptions, it can be that it is synonymous with black storks?

We have to continue our research

[sova]

Nice day for everyone

Jo .... thanks for all the data, mail's .... Thank you Hr. Urmas.

Have now looked at last two points on Päikes card.
She gets faster and higher ... Sure, she may have caught a good wind.
Can not imagine the tired, exhausted bird that can. (but I do not know much about flight yet). And if the Päike had landed in the water, the transmitter would certainly not immediately wet, right? Then the altitude would be safe at 0. And we would have no speed, right?
I think we are worried and the bird has some fun somewhere.

[sova]

Maru (01.11.) - Egypt (Overflight Suez)




Weather data - 08:00
temp; 26 °
Precipitation; 0 mm
Humidity; 40%

[sova]

Maru (01.11.) - Egypt (Overflight Suez)
Wind data (08:00)
Wind; 100 m - NW (21/17 km / h)

Wind; 250 m - NW (25/18 km / h)

Wind; 500 m - NE (23/27 km / h)

[sova]

Maru (01.11.) - Egypt (Hurghada)
Wind data (11:00)
Wind; 100 m - NE (15 km / h)

Wind; 250 m - NE (14 km / h)

Wind; 500 m - NE (23 km / h)