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Re: Following Karl's Family

Post by Hellem » March 3rd, 2019, 12:27 pm

:hi:

03.03 (morning)

Karula - 175 km (+19 km), near Sde Nahum in Israel

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Post by kuhankeittäjä » March 3rd, 2019, 1:41 pm

Dr.Gebril wrote:
March 2nd, 2019, 10:58 pm
... Being sick and reluctant to fly it sure made her into an easy target .
I also like to add that she had a freshly caught fish in her GIT which means she didn’t starve until the incidence .
...
Dr.Gebril, thank You very much of real information on nature of this sad event. Woul'd it be possible to estimate whether Maru could have returned from Africa to Asia or Europe before perishing, or even lived longer than that?

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Post by Dr.Gebril » March 3rd, 2019, 1:49 pm

But of course,

From my medical standpoint I’m quite positive she’d have perished before returning back to Europe.. Although birds never cease to amaze me with their capabilities! But yes she was in a bad shape for such long way back home .

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Post by asteria » March 3rd, 2019, 2:42 pm

Worst of all must be the thing that many other birds in that region got the same dangerous disease from food or water.

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Post by Michi » March 3rd, 2019, 3:03 pm

Many thanks, dear Dr. Gebril, for all the further informations!
They are very valuable for us.
Hard to bear that trophy hunters took Marus life. Only the fact that she was so ill, makes it a bit easier to handle this.
But I‘m glad to read that Maru could catch even fish out there.

Thank you also, Anne, Liz, Hellem and all, for informations and updates! :2thumbsup:

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Post by Michi » March 3rd, 2019, 3:08 pm

asteria wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 2:42 pm
Worst of all must be the thing that many other birds in that region got the same dangerous disease from food or water.
Asteria, I fully agree.

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Post by Jo UK » March 3rd, 2019, 4:21 pm

Anne is away for a while so here is Karula's tracker map


KARULA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12DScV ... sp=sharing

That map seems to cover a very short time - less than an hour from 06.00.
I will do it again -

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P_Oyb ... sp=sharing
The second map is no different, so I have asked Urmas if he can suggest a reason for this odd occurrence.

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Post by sova » March 3rd, 2019, 7:14 pm

Good evening to all :hi:

Anne ...
Maru's weather data is available

Wish you all a nice evening and a good week

Michi :wave:

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Post by Solo » March 3rd, 2019, 7:35 pm

Abigyl wrote:
February 28th, 2019, 8:26 pm
I don't know this WS. What is his story? Pic is very small and hard to read.
:hi: Abigyl,
nothing unusual - Hajdú is male adult stork (from streamed nest).He was always one from first returning WS in HU. One ornithologist catch him and now we know the explanation. His wintering area is "only" Israel (east from Evron, a kibbutz near Nahariya, Northern District, Israel).
here more - migration album (after arrival his device is "quiet")
https://albumyrajce.rajce.idnes.cz/migr ... t._04.09./

the pic is big - click on the link:https://i.postimg.cc/fyxkJbm4/Anne.jpg
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Post by Treia » March 3rd, 2019, 7:43 pm

by Dr.Gebril » March 2nd, 2019, 10:58 pm
I highly doubt that Maru was shot for infection control purposes as a matter of fact I believe she was targeted by trophy hunters and they didn’t claim her because the ID Ring and the Transmitter were enough deterrent to let her be . Being sick and reluctant to fly it sure made her into an easy target .
I also like to add that she had a freshly caught fish in her GIT which means she didn’t starve until the incidence .
by kuhankeittäjä » March 3rd, 2019, 1:41 pm
Dr.Gebril, thank You very much of real information on nature of this sad event. Woul'd it be possible to estimate whether Maru could have returned from Africa to Asia or Europe before perishing, or even lived longer than that?
by Dr.Gebril » March 3rd, 2019, 1:49 pm
From my medical standpoint I’m quite positive she’d have perished before returning back to Europe.. Although birds never cease to amaze me with their capabilities! But yes she was in a bad shape for such long way back home .
If the fish was a rare delicacy for Maru there near the Nile and Al Ballanah wastewater Ponds in Egypt, then ... at least she got fish to eat before her death, so maybe her mind could be happy at that sad moment she was shot by those hunters... at least I hope so.

So... now I hope for good luck and health to Marus family... Karl, Kati, and Karula, and of course to 'uncle' Eedi... when they flyes around this big world.

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Post by Jo UK » March 3rd, 2019, 7:53 pm

Jo UK wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 4:21 pm
Anne is away for a while so here is Karula's tracker map


KARULA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12DScV ... sp=sharing

That map seems to cover a very short time - less than an hour from 06.00.
I will do it again -

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1P_Oyb ... sp=sharing
The second map is no different, so I have asked Urmas if he can suggest a reason for this odd occurrence.
Edit - one transmission is missing. Next transmission due at 21.12.

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Post by Jo UK » March 3rd, 2019, 9:41 pm

Updated tracker map for

KARULA
March 3 update.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lr5Jw ... sp=sharing

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Post by Treia » March 3rd, 2019, 10:36 pm

:wave:
Thanks for Karula's Tracker
and good night !

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Post by Anne7 » March 3rd, 2019, 11:57 pm

Good evening, everyone :hi:
Many thanks to all for the updates, weather reports, extra info, and pics :thumbs:
Jo UK wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 9:41 pm
Updated tracker map for
KARULA
March 3 update.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lr5Jw ... sp=sharing
Thank you, Jo! :2thumbsup:

Today's traject
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Karula is again sleeping in Mahane Gideon, heritage preservation site, Transjordan Frontier Force of the British Empire, Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjord ... tier_Force

Image

In the absence of trees, such a thing can also serve to sleep on.
Image
https://mapio.net/pic/p-80541615/

TODAY'S SUMMARY MARCH 03

KARL (Karl is probably in South Sudan)
No new data (Last data: 15.11.2018)

MARU (Maru stayed near the Nile in Egypt since 01.11.2018 = 117 days)
Maru perished on February 25th at about 13:00, near the Al Ballanah wastewater ponds.
(Last flight data: 25.02.2019)

PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)

KARULA
Birdmap was set to spring migration and a new distance measurement started from 15.02.2019
(The total distance flown on 14.02.2019 is: 6606 km)

First update
Last data: 03.03.2019
Distance: 175 km (+ 19 km), same area, Nir David in the Beit She'an Valley in Israel
Second update
Last data: 03.03.2019 (evening)
Distance: 195 km (+ 20 km on the same day) same area, Nir David in the Beit She'an Valley in Israel
Total distance: + 39 km in 1 day
Weather report 03.03 at 10:00
Temp: 17°; at 15:00 17°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 50%
Air pressure: 1016 hPa
Wind 100 m - S/SW (22 km/h); at 15:00 SW (34 km/h)
Wind 250 m - S/SW (24 km/h); at 15:00 SW (37 km/h)
Wind 500 m - S/SW (29 km/h); at 15:00 SW (34 km/h)

Good night :wave:
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Post by Liz01 » March 4th, 2019, 5:36 am

March 4


Good Morning everyone. Thank you for the update :2thumbsup:

New Data by Karula.

Distance 195 km ( +20 km ), Last data 03.03.2019
Anne7 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 11:57 pm
........In the absence of trees, such a thing can also serve to sleep on. ..
It is not nice, but functional. :laugh:

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Post by Abigyl » March 4th, 2019, 7:27 am

Solo wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 7:35 pm
:hi: Abigyl,
His wintering area is "only" Israel (east from Evron, a kibbutz near Nahariya, Northern District, Israel).
https://albumyrajce.rajce.idnes.cz/migr ... t._04.09./

the pic is big - click on the link:https://i.postimg.cc/fyxkJbm4/Anne.jpg
:wave:
Thanks Solo!
I know HU nests, years ago I watched them, but quality of cams was very bad and they had many problems.

This was also Raivo's story - Always first at his nest :D

Now, technology allows us to understand the real habits of the birds :thumbs:

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Post by Solo » March 4th, 2019, 7:58 am

Abigyl wrote:
March 4th, 2019, 7:27 am
Thanks Solo!I know HU nests...
you're welcome :shake: , I remember :laugh:

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Post by Solo » March 4th, 2019, 8:04 am

Anne7 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 11:57 pm
Karula is again sleeping in Mahane Gideon, heritage preservation site, Transjordan Frontier Force of the British Empire, Israel
In the absence of trees, such a thing can also serve to sleep on.
https://up.picr.de/35202271xe.jpg
Liz01 wrote:
March 4th, 2019, 5:36 am
...It is not nice, but functional. :laugh:
in that area they are also trees :headroll: (and not only this one)

Nov 22, 2018
Image
big https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... a2dSF=h720

another trees in that area
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... pf_7N=h720

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Post by Sue » March 4th, 2019, 9:21 am

Oh dear, our precious Maru :cry: . I am crying. Such a shocking very bad news after my more than a week absence (no access to internet because of exchanges of windows in my appartment)..

However thanks a lot to Urmas, Solo and all of you!

Dear Dr Gebril, thank you very much for all.

And now: Good luck to Karl, Kati and Karula :bow: :wave:

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Post by Liz01 » March 4th, 2019, 9:34 am

Solo wrote:
March 4th, 2019, 8:04 am
in that area they are also trees :headroll: (and not only this one)
........another trees in that area......
Solo, that looks much better. I a nice night place for our little Karula :innocent:

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