Latvian WtE nest webcamera Juras-erglis Durbe 2019

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7:59 Miks made WE.


8:43 Rika made WE.
8:53 Miks made WE.
8:58 more WE. he came to the nest.
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9:00 Miks made WE and went to the left branch.


9:59 Rika pooped.
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10:06 Rika made WE & CE.
10:09 more.
10:15 more.


10:53 Rika pooped. (i found only few PS this morning :puzzled: )
10:55 Miks made WE.
10:59 Rika made WE.
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11:05 Rika made WE.
11:08 more.


11:20 eaglets looked in the sky.both called. Mika has a more adult voice than Rika. Rika's voice was actually rather 'childish'. :whistling:
i could not see what they saw.
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11:28 Miks called and looked in the sky. then there was a birds voice from far.
the voice was a bit like a buzzard's voice but not quite. maybe a honey buzzard? :help:


11:30 Miks made WE. then he called and looked in the sky.
a big bird flew by and circled in the sky. a parent would have made the eaglets call more and in another way. maybe it was the (honey?) buzzard?
Miks made more WE and jumped to the nest and back
also Rika made some WE.
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11:37 both made WE. Miks made yo-yo exercise to nest and back to branch.
it was raining but it didn't stop the exercises. :D


11:51 Miks made WE, going to the top branch. then a long rumble of thunder came from far.
11:57 more rumbling.


- later there was even more. the southern sky became very dark.
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12:03 Rika made WE.
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ame wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 9:23 am
yesterday both had something to eat although growing eaglets who make a lot of WE need more. - do i remember correct if i say that an eaglet need about 1 kg of fish per day? it must be the correct order of magnitude... Liz? :help:
Thank you, Ame (and Liz and the book!), for the information. Now of course the question arises how much the fish landing on the nest weighs? If you can give me an estimate, I will be grateful. Otherwise I could perhaps ask at a fishshop :nod:

Also I remember Mika when recently he had near nothing to eat for almost three days. Yet even at the third day he made some strenous exercises and invested many calories into screaming for food (which was a good investment it turned out, for he then got that big half of a huge carp).

Could it also depend at least partly on the individual's constitution? With Mika I have been astonished throughout that despite him getting rather less (even when taking into account the size difference) than Rika he seemed never much behind her in development plus always very alert and agil. So I wondered whether perhaps his stomach might make better use of the food?
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At 4:48 voice Milda's.
At 4:54 voice crow and Milda.
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ame wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 9:23 am
Ajeta, i suppose i was so enchanted about the four minus one fish (the one which Raimis took for himself) that i didn't remember that there was no food later in all day.
Lucky you to focus on what they had - I on the other hand was heartbroken when the biggest fish of the morning left the nest again and the pitiful rest had to be shared amongst three. :laugh:
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Sonchik wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 12:39 pm I think that it isn't quantity of fishes but in lack of appetite at eaglets. They don't eat with such passion as earlier.
Yes, especially when they have to do the hard feeding work themselves and when fish is plentiful so that they can eat small portions regularly. When mother comes to feed, however, they seem to have a greater appetite and look fuller afterwards (Rika less so the past few times, but Mika).

Regarding "feeding work": A few days ago, Raimis showed a very interesting and quite efficient method of openig a fish: He tore almost the complete skin of the side and could then eat the flesh in smooth big bites. The others usually start at the head and eat onwards, thus having to tear skin at almost every bite rather than have done with it in one quick go at the beginning. That was my impression at least. If I were an eagle I would do it like Raimis.
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Ajeta wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 2:04 pm Thank you, Ame (and Liz and the book!), for the information. Now of course the question arises how much the fish landing on the nest weighs? If you can give me an estimate, I will be grateful. Otherwise I could perhaps ask at a fishshop :nod:

Also I remember Mika when recently he had near nothing to eat for almost three days. Yet even at the third day he made some strenous exercises and invested many calories into screaming for food (which was a good investment it turned out, for he then got that big half of a huge carp).

Could it also depend at least partly on the individual's constitution? With Mika I have been astonished throughout that despite him getting rather less (even when taking into account the size difference) than Rika he seemed never much behind her in development plus always very alert and agil. So I wondered whether perhaps his stomach might make better use of the food?
i have tried to estimate the size of the fishes by comparing their size with the "hand" of the eagle with claws extended. it's about as large as an average adult human female's hand (approximately). if Raimis has his claws just about around the fish then i think that the fish might weigh 1 kg.
that means that the big carps that have been brought here could be around 1 kg in weight.
do ask your fish shop and tell us what the estimate could be for a fish of that size. :thumbs:

about your last question: i don't think that anyone has an answer to it. :laugh:
i would guess that eagles or any other animals are not much different from humans. some humans are probably more efficient in this respect than the others (or is it an urban legend, meant to explain getting round faster than others? :whistling: ). i don't know if it is a verified fact. :puzzled:
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Sonchik wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 2:08 pm At 4:48 voice Milda's.
At 4:54 voice crow and Milda.
i got the impression that there were crows nearby around that time. at one point i heard voices of at least two crows. all were alarmed, both parent s and the eaglets.
eagles take crows very seriously as threats. they are probably the worst natural enemies of eagles (after humans).

about the feeding habits of Raimis: he usually eats the heads of the fish first before he brings them to the nest. i guess he does it because that will kill the fish and it is easier to transport than a wiggling alive fish. a dead fish also slips out of the nest less likely than an alive fish.
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Sonchik wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 7:41 am Good morning Liz :hi: and all!
At 7:22 an awful fight because of a stick? :shock:
They have to train their fighting tactics somehow, don't they (this was more than "initial level", I suppose :D )? And perhaps it had been brewing, too: It seemed to me that in the past few days Rika did not enter any confrontation with Mika, despite their being a few smaller scenes where I would have expected a short sharp put down by her. So here she demonstrated once again that she ist still the bigger sibling.

But Mika did rather well in this skirmish I thought, he has developed a lot with all his yo-yo exercises and all. (Should try them myself perhaps?) Later on the beach he might perhaps be able to use his agility and speed even more to his advantage. In the confines of the nest Rika's greater strength is the decisive factor.
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ame wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 1:51 pm 7:19 Miks came down to the nest and made WE & CE.
then also Rika started WE & CE. for some reason Miks picked Rika in the face and again her breast (or the other way round).
in other words: Miks started to make trouble with Rika. Rika answered and they started a real fight.
Rika won and Miks assumed the submissive posture, i.e. went to the far left corner, turned his back to Rika and put his head as down as possible. just like when they were small and Rika used to hit him.
then Rika pooped. Miks went to the left branch.
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They are such cuties! :loveshower:

7.22. Miks started. Just for fun. I think he feels happy that he can branch and very soon will fly... :rolleyes: But Rika won. :whistling:
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14:44:50 fish by Raimis =)
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Crissy wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 2:45 pm 14:44:50 fish =)
a huge one :mrgreen:
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ame wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 2:31 pm
about the feeding habits of Raimis: he usually eats the heads of the fish first before he brings them to the nest. i guess he does it because that will kill the fish and it is easier to transport than a wiggling alive fish. a dead fish also slips out of the nest less likely than an alive fish.
Yes, I see all the headless fish landing here (and prefer them to the alive ones). The fish I was talking about Raimis brought to the nest as a whole if I remember correctly, but since nobody seemed to have much interest in it he began eating it himself, and that's when he did it in the described fashion. (It happened right underneath the camera, so it was clearly visible how the flesh came out in a seemingly effortless fashion).

I also watch impatiently with how very small bites especially Mika eats a fish, getting just minute pieces out of it each time, fiddling sheer endlessly with the same piece of skin, while Rika behind him is making all the signs of planning to rob him of his fish soon. If he ate the fish the way Raimis did it then he could perhaps swallow more before conceding it to his sister. However, his development shows that his way of eating cannot be all at fault. :laugh:
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ame wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 1:50 pm i have now (at last!after all kinds of difficulties) some videos from this morning.
I much admire all this effort you put in here despite all the technical difficulties you often mention. And just like everybody else am very grateful indeed for the invaluable records and references you produce!
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Liz01 wrote: July 3rd, 2019, 2:46 pm a huge one :mrgreen:
:laugh: this looks like whale
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Rika took it at first
14:50 Mika made his move and took the fish :thumbs:
15:02 Rika took the fish back

edit: its other way around, Mika took it first
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