Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

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Re: Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 10:55 am

Swenja wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 10:53 am
I suspect more eggs are coming. :unsure:
Probably yes.

It’s too late in the season. And the little female is inexperienced. :unsure:

But let’s be positive.
There’s hope. There’s always hope.
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Post by Swenja » May 14th, 2020, 11:21 am

11:19 rest
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Post by Kiser » May 14th, 2020, 11:22 am

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3 minutes before the egg :rolleyes:

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Post by Abigyl » May 14th, 2020, 11:35 am

CONGRATULATIONS :loveshower:

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Post by Crissy » May 14th, 2020, 11:36 am

Proud parents greet first egg :bounce:


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Post by Swenja » May 14th, 2020, 11:41 am

11:40 mating

11:45 Female flies away
11:46 Karl II breeding.
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Post by Hellem » May 14th, 2020, 11:50 am

11:46 Karl II sat to incubate again

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Post by Biker » May 14th, 2020, 12:15 pm

:hi:
no matter what will happen, Karl II is happy with the egg. I open the camera, he stood up turn the egg and .... then ...he arranges the moss around it. he poked eager , it has to be thoroughly chopped up..

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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 12:23 pm

I took some pictures of the egg laying.
Oh my, this was so beautiful!
There was so much tenderness and so much happiness in both Karl II and his little princess.

10:12:06 The little female is pushing. Karl II neatly clears all branches.
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10:13:03 I believe this is the moment when the egg is laid. Her very first egg.
Karl II watches attentively. He looks a little concerned.
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10:13:10 The "midwife" checks if everything went well. :2thumbsup:
Karl II puts his beak between her tail feathers.
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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 12:24 pm

10:13:18 More monitoring ... :D
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10:13:27 Karl II gently urges the young mum to get up
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10:13:30 She gets up
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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 12:24 pm

10:13:34 Both stare at their egg for the first time
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10:13:38 They both touch the egg
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10:13:57 So much tenderness...
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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 12:24 pm

10:14:02 Karl II gently turns the egg. The little princess can hardly believe her eyes.
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10:14:30 "You laid a perfect egg, honey. Well done!"
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Post by Swenja » May 14th, 2020, 12:32 pm

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36 days, that would be from June 17th should chicks hatch?
Is there enough small food for small chicks? :unsure:

13:05 Karl II is sleeping

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Post by chrisitz » May 14th, 2020, 2:19 pm

I didnt expect that. I am really worried.
also worried for Karl II. If the young lady is like known, he will starve... :shock:

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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 3:14 pm

chrisitz wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 2:19 pm
I didnt expect that. I am really worried.
also worried for Karl II. If the young lady is like known, he will starve... :shock:
chrisitz :hi:

I somehow did expect eggs since the young female's behaviour changed a few days ago (on May 12th).

We can now only wait and see what happens next.
Will the female also incubate? She is almost a child herself.

If she doesn't help with the brooding, the egg(s) will be lost anyway.
If she doesn't come, Karl II will wait for her. I suspect he will wait a very long time.
But at some point he has to leave the nest to eat. And he will do that. He will not starve to death.

And even if the female helps with incubating, and the chicks hatch, the difficulties are far from over.
We can only hope that there are no more than 2 eggs. I think Karl II can find enough food for 2 chicks on his own. But even then the little female will have to watch over the chicks while Karl II is hunting, for at least the first 2-3 weeks. Karl II cannot keep the chicks warm + protect them, and at the same time search for food ...

15:31 Karl II is incubating the egg. He looks happy to do this.
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He turns the egg.
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Post by Abigyl » May 14th, 2020, 3:57 pm

There was something very special around the couple when they were having the egg.

Their red beaks and legs, their elegant black and white suit, and all the red trees around them, It looked like a piece of art made by a great painter.
To me there was magic there :thumbs:

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Post by Anne7 » May 14th, 2020, 3:58 pm

Swenja wrote:
May 14th, 2020, 12:32 pm
36 days, that would be from June 17th should chicks hatch?
Is there enough small food for small chicks? :unsure:
Swenja :wave:
First of all: many thanks for your observations, reports and pictures!

Last year, the first egg was laid April 19th. It hatched May 16th.
That makes 34 days.

Because there seems to be intense incubation, right away, this egg could theoretically hatch in about 33 days, I think.
From Thursday 14 May 2020 to Tuesday 16 June 2020 will be 33 days.


I don't know what Karl II will eventually come up with to feed his newly hatched chicks. (IF they hatch...)
I think his genius will be tested extensively. :unsure:
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Post by Swenja » May 14th, 2020, 4:05 pm

Yes, thanks for stating the 33 days @ Anne7

I hope that the parents both manage to promote the offspring.

16:08 Karl II came to the nest at 09:15. I hope his wife will come back soon.

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Post by Bibibu » May 14th, 2020, 4:40 pm

Somehow I suspected that the woman's behavior would still lay an egg. But I actually hoped it wouldn't happen anymore.
But of course that's just my human mindset again. Maybe you'd better trust the animals to know what they're doing. But when I read again that she is too young, I also believe that some things may have to be learned real, but a lot is also guided by animal instinct. So maybe everything could still be correct.

I read correctly Karl has been on the nest since 9 a.m.

Now the question arises again, was she scared of her own egg that she was gone so long?

But one has already accepted so much, at first she hardly came, then a bit more often, then longer, then sometime overnight, maybe because she is so young she always needs longer for everything and has to get used to everything. But that's just human thinking again! :unsure:

I am also so divided, prefer to stay a single egg or at least now a second one ?! Because if it works and the baby stork has to be alone in the nest, it is also not nice.


I also have to honestly say, if the time is really too late, if I want to see how it is hatched and then maybe there is a lot of temporal grief ... I don't know if I want to see it ... even if nature is like that.


Now I'm curious when Karl can eat.

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Post by Solo » May 14th, 2020, 4:41 pm

by Jo viewtopic.php?p=638918#p638918

2019 eggs

FIRST EGG was seen at first light on 12. April, 2019
SECOND EGG seen on 14 April, 2019
THIRD EGG seen on 16 April, 2019
FOURTH EGG seen on 18 April, 2019


2019 hatch

First Egg hatched 06.42. 16 May, 2019 viewtopic.php?p=656104#p656104
Second Egg 13.15.. 16. May viewtopic.php?p=656286#p656286
Third egg hatched 22.05. 16 May viewtopic.php?p=656488#p656488
Fourth egg hatched at 09.28 17 May viewtopic.php?p=638919#p638919


edit:
fourth egg hatched on 18 May viewtopic.php?p=656941#p656941 (and here video by Crissy about this event https://youtu.be/XIzwjmCqNoo)

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