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i can't make it work on my other pc.... :puzzled:
i tried the next option and then it started. :mrgreen:
https://t1.daumcdn.net/potplayer/beta/P ... etup64.exe

this is a bit mystical and not logical at all. :laugh:
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ame wrote: June 26th, 2021, 5:06 pm
https://t1.daumcdn.net/potplayer/beta/P ... etup64.exe

this is a bit mystical and not logical at all. :laugh:
it works :slap: :D :laugh:

thank you! :loveshower: first the portable version did not install the codex!
So I have installed the normal version! Now it works and I'm very happy! So I can go to the Baltic sea more than four hours! With VLC you can not split the files!

EDIT: it works on my Laptop too! What a great relief!
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I wonder why I have no problems with the potplayer but do you have? :puzzled:
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Sonchik wrote: June 27th, 2021, 12:19 am I wonder why I have no problems with the potplayer but do you have? :puzzled:
Youtube was blocking network streaming for Europeans
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Liz01 wrote: June 27th, 2021, 6:34 am Youtube was blocking network streaming for Europeans
Oooooh! :shock: But why?
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Sonchik, who knows why Youtube does things like that. Image

i'm so relieved now that the Potplayer can again open the YT stream. apparently the Youtube had changed some of their settings so that the P-player could not catch the stream anymore. now someone has made a correction for the P-player.

the VLC-player is generally considered to be one of the best players/recorders (if not the best) and the P-player is in the top 5. both can apparently do almost anything. the VLC is, however, much more sensitive to any smallest disturbances in the stream that it's capturing (either in the original transmission or the reception at the recorder's end or anywhere between them). when there's a disturbance the recording breaks. at worst times i had to restart the recording dozens of times with intervals of 10 s - 5 min before the stream stabilized. the Potplayer doesn't react to disturbances nearly as easily. it freezes for the duration of the break and continues recording when the stream continues. it will not stop altogether unless the break in the stream lasts for a minute or few. the P-layer is much more reliable.
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i shall make a note here about the Potplayer version that is the best so far.
it's version 210729 (1-7-21526) (or 1.7.21526)

this version can record YT stream as long as there's free space on the hard disc. i tried once how long it will go and it went on till 73rd hour. then i had to restart the P-player for some reason. without restarting it would have gone on and on.

last night i found another great advantage. the J-E stream was turned off at 9 pm but i didn't turn off the P-player but left it recording the subsequent restarts which the stream tried to make. in the morning the stream started to run at 6 am again, and the P-player was ready to go on recording and started to work as if the stream had been on all the time! wow, that's great. :thumbs:

at the same time (yesterday) the P-player gave information that a new updated version was available for downloading. i downloaded it for testing in one of my computers. this new version has the 6 hour limit again: it will stop after 6 hours of recording. this is a worsening compared to the previous version. it's not worth downloading.

one can stop the P-player from giving information about new versions by opening Preferences -> General and selecting "never" in the "Autocheck for updates"-box. then click "Apply" and then OK.

two practical details to remember:
- one must remember to click the "split files"-box when starting to record. otherwise the P-player will record in one file. one hour of the J-E stream takes about 930 MBytes so even a few hours makes files so big that they are difficult to manage.
- another thing which one must remember is to select the folder where the recorded files will be stored. the original setting is a roaming directory which is normally invisible in the File manager. a few times i have had to do some serious digging when i have forgotten this and i had to find my recordings which had gone missing in the roaming directory.
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Owlie wrote: November 16th, 2021, 10:17 am Not all LK memebers have Facebook account, therefore it is justifiable to share FB pictures in LK forum. But sharing LK posts on another forum is unnecessary as everybody has access to LK even without signing in. And sharing pictures and posts without permission in internet is not OK.
You are not a judge!

I didn't really want to comment on this because it is a complex topic.

The forum here is a public space, just like FB. So you can use the data.

There is the possibility of "fair use"

Factors for the evaluation of fair use
1. The purpose and nature of its use, including whether such use is more of a commercial nature or for educational nonprofit purposes
Courts typically focus on whether the use of the copyrighted material is “transformative” - that is, whether the original has just been copied, or whether the re-use gives the work a new meaning or meaning.

If protected content from a predominantly fact-based work is used, it is more likely to be classified as fair use than a completely fictional work.

and:
If the ability of the copyright owner to make a profit from his original work is restricted by the continued use of the protected content, it is unlikely to be classified as fair use. In the case of parodies, the courts have occasionally made an exception on this point.

So! No profit is made here, the "work" has not been changed. The data has been adopted and used.

The courts decided what a copyright infringement is.
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Liz01 wrote: November 16th, 2021, 2:39 pm
Liz :hi:

I suggest we do not discuss this 'case' here on the forum. As you say, copyright infringements are complex, and we are not experts or judges in the field.

There is indeed such a thing as 'fair use'.
Note the word 'fair'.
If someone systematically wishes to publish and/or use someone else's work, or components of it, it is a matter of courtesy, correctness and fairness 1. to ask for permission, 2. to include a link to the original work (the LK post), and 3. to add the correct and complete ©
One does not have to be a judge or an expert to understand that. It is sufficient for everyone to use their conscience and common sense, and to be attentive.

I have no problem with the 'fair' use of our tracker maps. On the contrary, I can only rejoice that well-intentioned and enthousiastic people make (occasional) 'fair' use of it!

I hope that the people involved realise that it would be better (and certainly less debilitating) for everyone to stop the 'unfair' use of material that does not belong to them. No one gets happier or better from an official complaint.

In any case, regardless of the outcome (if the issue were to persist), we could also omit publishing the tracker map links forever. What is not published cannot be "stolen".

It would be a great pity, though, if everyone who is interested in the tracker maps were to be unintentionally 'punished' in this way. (And that’s a lot of people. Julge’s tracker maps and Udu’s last tracker maps had hundreds of views.)
I sincerely hope that this measure will not be necessary.
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Anne7 wrote: November 16th, 2021, 4:57 pm Liz :hi:

I suggest we do not discuss this 'case' here on the forum. As you say, copyright infringements are complex, and we are not experts or judges in the field.

There is indeed such a thing as 'fair use'.
Note the word 'fair'.
If someone systematically wishes to publish and/or use someone else's work, or components of it, it is a matter of courtesy, correctness and fairness 1. to ask for permission, 2. to include a link to the original work (the LK post), and 3. to add the correct and complete ©
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Anne, :hi:

I agree! in both cases! :nod:
I am not relying on the possibility of "fair use", I have no idea what that means in the most of cases!
So I ask for permission and I have the certainty that it is desired. Most of them are very happy you ask. I haven't had any negative experiences so far.
I wouldn't like it either if someone wrote that I shouldn't use their data and I do it because the possibility exists. That is disrespectful behavior.
I do not post a link about the options under "fair use". It's too boring for me and there is no guarantee that the right decisions will be made.
Topic finished :laugh:
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