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Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 10:46 pm
by Hellem
Btw, since 21:05 till 21:32 Ivo was standing next to the egg, he didn't cover it and when he left then stepped also on the egg

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 10:51 pm
by mogga
Hellem wrote: April 27th, 2019, 10:46 pm Btw, since 21:05 till 21:32 Ivo was standing next to the egg, he didn't cover it and when he left then stepped also on the egg
Yes. It's not really working out yet. Ivo could warm the egg just as well during the time he is standing around... :rolleyes:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 10:54 pm
by Bea
°°°

With thanks to mogga´s summary here
viewtopic.php?p=649550#p649550

and the following 7 equal votes we have a clear favourite for the new Lady´s name - and it is *tadaaa* ---> Iiris / Iris

I´d say both spellings are okay, Iiris as well as Iris. Some members may wish to use the Estonian spelling, others the one with the single 'I'

:wave:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 10:59 pm
by mogga
Bea wrote: April 27th, 2019, 10:54 pm °°°

With thanks to mogga´s summary here
viewtopic.php?p=649550#p649550

and the following 7 equal votes we have a clear favourite for the new Lady´s name - and it is *tadaaa* ---> Iiris / Iris

I´d say both spellings are okay, Iiris as well as Iris. Some members may wish to use the Estonian spelling, others the one with the single 'I'

:wave:
I will use Iiris. Iris we already have here in Germany, that's too ordinary for me... :D

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:04 pm
by mogga
The fish delivery at 21:05. Iiris is really stepping right on the middle of the egg.


Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:05 pm
by Polly
mogga wrote: April 27th, 2019, 10:59 pm I will use Iiris. Iris we already have here in Germany, that's too ordinary for me... :D
I don't like either, but it's okay. :nod:
Somebody always has to complain. :rotf: I sacrifice myself. :mrgreen:

I wish Ivo would be a little more caring. I love this osprey but we know it differently.

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:05 pm
by Mary Jane
Both versions of the name are beautiful. :thumbs: I will use Iris.

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:07 pm
by Halina
I suggest the names Ilvi and Ilma. Or is it too late?

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:10 pm
by Bea
Halina wrote: April 27th, 2019, 11:07 pm I suggest the names Ilvi and Ilma. Or is it too late?
Hello Halina, welcome to the forum! :gathering:

Yes, I fear it is too late, we had clear votes for Iiris / Iris.

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:11 pm
by mogga
Halina wrote: April 27th, 2019, 11:07 pm I suggest the names Ilvi and Ilma. Or is it too late?
Halina, :wave:
The result was too clear. Other names wouldn't stand a chance...

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:14 pm
by Polly
Can't we still limit it to Liris? Liris or liris ...
I don't find a double possibility so optimal. :unsure:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:20 pm
by Bea
Polly wrote: April 27th, 2019, 11:14 pm Can't we still limit it to Liris? Liris or liris ...
I don't find a double possibility so optimal. :unsure:
Polly :hi:

I am sure we all will get used to the voted name and its spelling/s quick.

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 27th, 2019, 11:23 pm
by Hellem
Polly :wave: , Liris isn't a name in Estonia and Iris is more popular (438 woman have this name) then Iiris (202 woman with this name) :laugh: , both are nice names
https://www.stat.ee/public/apps/nimed/

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Ivo & Iiris) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:02 am
by Jojo
Our Lady has a name !!

Iris is beautiful, and it suits her wonderfully.
(I will use the spelling with one "i" like we do in Spain)

:loveshower: :loveshower:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:15 am
by Jojo
Hellem wrote: April 27th, 2019, 10:46 pm Btw, since 21:05 till 21:32 Ivo was standing next to the egg, he didn't cover it and when he left then stepped also on the egg
21.32
I just watched that..it does not look good at all :slap:

Fingers crossed that the stream is back up tomorrow and we can see the egg intact...but I am not sure .

I have watched it now several times.
I fear it is broken. :cry:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Ivo & Iiris) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:33 am
by Sunshine
:wave:
Hello everyone! Do we already have a female name?... The vote took place just during one afternoon/evening, without any warning on the previous day that next day we choose the name of the Lady?... :unsure:

Yesterday and even still this morning there was no talk about the voting. It is a Saturday, many people were not online during the day... no-one knew that today is the day when the name will be chosen.

The Lady will be for us for a long time, around 5 months at least or longer.. why such a hurry, to give her a name in just a few hours?

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:43 am
by Sunshine
mogga wrote: April 27th, 2019, 3:49 pm °°°
Hyacinth (Irja, Iiris/Iris) and Galina (Ivi, Iris) haven't made their final decision yet.
In fact, certainly more people did not make their decision.. Not everyone is checking the forum on Saturday, during the day! For sure, many of us assumed that these names will be put forward for a real voting.

There was never any talk that the name has to be decided by Saturday afternoon.
Bea wrote: April 27th, 2019, 4:54 pm I still have to think about and find my favourite one. Maybe still more votes will come from others, too.
Yes, me too... More votes would come if there would be a bit more time given.

I like Iiris too, but this was much too fast. This was not a fair opportunity for everyone who really cares about this nest to cast their vote.

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Ivo & Iiris) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 12:56 am
by Hyacinth
Jojo wrote: April 28th, 2019, 12:15 am 21.32
I just watched that..it does not look good at all :slap:

Fingers crossed that the stream is back up tomorrow and we can see the egg intact...but I am not sure .

I have watched it now several times.
I fear it is broken. :cry:

I've seen ospreys step on eggs before but never saw one break as a result. Let's hope for the best! :nod:

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Ivo & Iiris) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 2:13 am
by Bea
°°°

No matter, whether there is a huge vote of one week with an extra topic with 20 possibilities of choices or whether one sometime lets things "roll", that develop in a short way --- there will always be members who will not be pleased with the result or the way things were handled. One will never be able to make things *right* for everyone. I experience this since years meanwhile.
Last year I was even called being a "Nazi" because someone was not pleased with the procedure, how things were handled and I didn´t jump for his/her liking.

I myself neither voted for the new females´ name and thought that there was more time to find a name - but things went different this time. Every year has its own dynamics and sometimes it is difficult to be heard when one asks for more patience or more time.

Naming the birds is a nice (is it ???) habit in a forum, for us observers, but nothing more. Are WE and our imaginings important or the birds?

We gather here to observe ospreys, to find out how they live, about their behaviour, their reproducing, rising chicks.

Will they mind with which name we call them in the forum? No.
Will the names, with which we call them, change anything that is going to happen on the nest? No.

So please, can we come back a bit more "with the feet on the ground"?

Last season, the offspring of a really famous Estonian Greater spotted Eagle, Tõnn, grew up without a big naming ceremony, was in the end called Tõnnipoeg (son of Tõnn) without any vote - and the world kept on revolving since that ...

I think I am beginning to understand why on many other nests/webcams birds get no names, but are only called with their ring-ID or as males/Dad and female/Mom or get unpersonal names like D1/D2/D3 and more like this ....

Re: Estonian Osprey Nest (Irma & Ivo) 2019

Posted: April 28th, 2019, 3:11 am
by Egrids
Bea wrote: April 27th, 2019, 10:37 pm Hi Egrids,
you first have to upload your picture to a picture host, who supports direct linking to a forum. Many of us use picr.de (only this night one can´t upload pictures, due to maintenance work on their server).

Then you can insert the given link here in your posts, using the [img] [ /img] button

More about showing pictures here in the forum one can find in a tutorial about adding images:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21

Thanks for the help Bea, now I understand the reason for adding a link. Will try as soon as I can. Will you, as moderator, remove things that are wrong? Thanks again // Egrids