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Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 26th, 2009, 9:21 pm
by Jazzel26
Does anyone know why the Hailuoto Osprey Nest Cam will not open?

It just has an error message
http://kotinetti.suomi.net/saaksi/index.php
JAZZEL

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 26th, 2009, 11:56 pm
by Olga
There is information in Saaristomeri front page that the thunder storm broke the cam the 23th May. The cam is not possible to prepair before the Osprey chicks are banded.. about 30th Jun - or in the beginning on July. Prepairing work (to climb almost to the nest) before that would be a risk to too much disturbance...
The first chick is waited to be hatched about the first days of Jun.
It's sad.. but I believe the project people will give information every now and then. The nest was not harmed by the storm. 'Ordinary people' and amateur ornitologists an even profs are asked to not go near the nest, best is to stay off the area of Seili, how curious one ever is..

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:01 am
by Olga
BTW I found a picture if three Ospreys on the nest place.. In the Finnish page Saaristomeri archive

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:05 am
by suvi
The DNA (phone)operator is repairing something there...

Just have to wait and see when they get it going again.

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:14 am
by Jazzel26
Thank you!
JAZZEL

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:28 am
by suvi
renandeli wrote:BTW I found a picture if three Ospreys on the nest place.. In the Finnish page Saaristomeri archive

Hi renandeli!
NOW I can see THREE ospreys clearly there!

What's the date? Is it 2008 or 2009?
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:32 am
by Olga
Suvi

It is 2009! It's difficult to see in the picture, but the original 'name' of the picture is "
140409_kolme_saaksea"
The one to the right under the huge wing looks funny:
'OMG, be carefull..'! 
of course it can be the male too!!..
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 12:52 am
by suvi
renandeli wrote:Suvi

It is 2009! It's difficult to see in the picture, but the original 'name' of the picture is "
140409_kolme_saaksea"
The one to the right under the huge wing looks funny:
'OMG, be carefull..'! 
of course it can be the male too!!..
He/she looks a little bit embarrassed - "what are they doing there, don't dare to watch..."
Early start, gotta go

, good night!
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 6:19 pm
by ame
hi
Yarko had posted in the WTE forum a link to a web page where there videos and pictures of all kinds of animals. here's a page where there are osprey videos:
http://www.arkive.org/osprey/pandion-ha ... eo-00.html
take a look at the first video there: what a catch!
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 6:31 pm
by Jazzel26
Ame, thank you for that amazing video link
JAZZEL

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 7:38 pm
by ame
Jo UK wrote:Thanks for bringing us those pics, renandeli.
I looked at this beautiful bird on Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wild_Pandion.jpg
Keep on enlarging it - it is glorious!
An osprey is pandion haliaetus., but not a sea eagle. It is a sea hawk.
A White tailed Eagle is also Haliaeetus.
A Bald eagle is another Haliaeetus.
A golden eagle is Aquila.
Greater and lesser spotted eagles are Aquila.
Can someone tell us what are the differences between these two genus(es)?
it says in my book that the osprey is the only representative of it's genus and family. it's family name '
Pandion' is given from Greek mythology: the gods turned Pandion, the king of Athens into a fish (and the rest of his family to various birds; my book doesn't tell why, as a revenge or punishment for something?). Linné described the osprey in the 18th century and called it the '
fish falcon', '
Falco haliaeetus'. in the osprey's present name '
haliaetus' means a '
fish-eater'.
Wikipedia gives the following etymolofy for WTE: '
Haliaeetus', New Latin for "sea-eagle". '
albicilla', "white-tailed", from Latin albi- "white" + cilla, "tail". so the WTE is the white-tailed fish-eater, i guess

. i don't know why the other 'haliaetus' is written with one 'e' and the other with two, i'm not a latinist

. both must mean fish-eater, so all these guys eat fish.
The Bald Eagle (
Haliaeetus leucocephalus), on the other hand, is not bald at all, but it is white-headed = '
leucocephalus'. the Latin word '
cephalus' means head and '
leuco' means white (these are biological terms, but maybe not classic Latin;
EDIT: i learned later that 'leuco' is Greek for 'white'!, while 'albus/alba/album' is Latin for 'white'). - i found an explanation for this baldness in the Finnish Wikipedia: '
bald' is short for '
piebald' meaning a colouring with white spot on black background (like the pied flycatcher), or it could also be 'descending' from the old English word '
balde' meaning white.
'
Aquila' and '
Haliaeetus' are genera like '
Pandion'
(the plural for 'genus' is 'genera'; gosh this really makes me study things! i had to check the dictionary for this...
..and i've been composing this post for one and half hours, i think, and i'm starving
) and '
Aquila' and '
Haliaeetus' belong to the family '
Accipitridae', while the genus '
Pandion' belongs to its own family '
Pandionidae'. these three families belong to the order '
Accipitriformes', i.e. the diurnal birds of prey. so, the osprey really is one of its kind.
- i hope that the above doesn't confuse things.
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 27th, 2009, 11:40 pm
by Jo UK
Ame, you have excelled in your researches
Thank you for all that information!
Now go and have a really good meal - you deserve it
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 1:35 pm
by ame
Jazzel26 wrote:Ame, thank you for that amazing video link
JAZZEL

thank Yarko!

i'm just passing the word...
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 28th, 2009, 3:50 pm
by Lili
I would like to sit in this ospreys nest myself and just enjoy the view

Its so very beautiful

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 29th, 2009, 8:06 am
by Ploughboy
suvi wrote:
The DNA (phone)operator is repairing something there...

Just have to wait and see when they get it going again.

Hi!
There is now another link (temporary?) to ospreys nest in Hailuoto
http://www.kaleva.fi/plus/index.cfm?extra=-107
DNA (phone)operator has still the same problems with this connection (unbelievable case)
There is also another problem. The camera is now little tilted because of heavy storm - the nest and ospreys seems to be ok.
If you go to Kaleva's page - don't click the image - it will refresh automatically
Have A Nice Day!
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 29th, 2009, 8:39 am
by Olga
Good morning
Normal life going on Seili! Thunderstorm did not harm the nest. There is an article about the situation in Seili nest in Turun sanomat today. Eggs are not supposed to have harmed by the thunderstorm
A new camera is waiting to be there instead of the broken cam. The chicks will be banded about the first days of Jun, and the new
live cam is to be put on at same time.
I'm too slow to translate, bad English
There is also other interesting information in the article about WTEs etc
Please, someone
http://www.turunsanomat.fi/kotimaa/?ts= ... ,1:0:0:0:0:
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: May 29th, 2009, 11:35 am
by Lili
Thank you Renandeli
That is good news, they will put new camera while ringing the chicks. Its pity there is no view now (the chicks should hatch soon

), but more important is that they are ok
I havent watch the cam much, but I like the pictures here- I adore this Saaristomeren (Archipelago Sea) cam view

Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 9:17 pm
by Ploughboy
Hi!
The tilted Hailuotio-Marjaniemi's osprey cam is online again!
http://kotinetti.suomi.net/saaksi/index.php
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: June 3rd, 2009, 11:01 pm
by Jo UK
Thanks, Ploughboy.
Tilted or not, it is still a good picture of a beautiful bird.
Re: Ospreys and Eagles in Finland
Posted: June 6th, 2009, 11:56 am
by Ploughboy
Hello
The Hailuoto-Marjaniemi osprey cam is now in right position.