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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 12:10 pm
by Liz01
Liz01 wrote: April 14th, 2018, 11:13 am
was away and is here on the right.. sings
Kaupo arrived home
both defend the nest..
11:15 Kaupo flew out.. he will accompany the stranger out of the forest
Kaupo arrived home
both defend the nest
Kaupo arrived, after accompanying the stranger outside
Marfo, thank you

But I have no time for that. I do not even have time for my things. Such things have to wait until I'm retired

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 12:24 pm
by Biker
Biker wrote: April 13th, 2018, 4:50 pmwith pleasure
ask another expert, or only a few clicks into a search engine and any disinformation by us members will be clarified.
Marfo wrote: April 14th, 2018, 12:01 pm
Displacement behaviour is a well known and researched behaviour seen in many animals
including humans. Very interesting subject if you have time to read about it.
Marfo, time is also short for me. (the older i get), but i am sure 100 % before i state anything anywhere.
one can not know all, so in doubt one have to research or to remain silent. a compromise in such cases is to describe his doubts and to state about his doubt. (like it here it happened (after a short think break). otherwise it looks like a try to give a real information.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 12:40 pm
by Liz01
still stress at the nest
it starts 12:28
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 12:50 pm
by Liz01
Biker wrote: April 14th, 2018, 12:24 pm
Marfo, time is also short for me. (the older i get), but i am sure 100 % before i state anything anywhere.
one can not know all, so in doubt one have to research or to remain silent. a compromise in such cases is to describe his doubts and to state about his doubt. (like it here it happened (after a short think break). otherwise it looks like a try to give a real information.
there is nothing 100% sure. We are beings human and we are often wrong with our knowledge. For a long time we thought the earth is a disk.
There are many examples of these fallacies ... so let it be good
What I read and what I do not, I decide!
I have my youtube channel ... over 8000 youtuber expect videos from me ..
We have a lot of youtube chats ..
I work 8 hours a day
I have to care for my flat and animals
I'm doing neighborly help
and so on ...
I will not comment on the topic anymore.
Someone can open a discussion thread..
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 1:11 pm
by Marfo
Biker wrote: April 14th, 2018, 12:24 pm
Marfo time is also short for me. (the older i get), but i am sure 100 % before i state anything anywhere.
one can not know all, so in doubt one have to research or to remain silent. a compromise in such cases is to describe his doubts and to state about his doubt. (like it here it happened (after a short think break). otherwise it looks like a try for a real information.
(It is not possible anymore to quote with earlier quotes included..)
My remark wasn't especially directed to you. I am sure you research first and write later. I don't have time to read everything I like either. I meant that it is an interesting subject for
anyone who is interested and has time to read about it.
@Liz01 Don't read anything in my post I didn't write. I am not telling anyone what to do.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 1:38 pm
by Michi
Liz01 wrote: April 14th, 2018, 10:29 am
9:24 Strange Black Stork lands on the parent branch
Oh dear!

And he was there a very long time, until he finally was chased away. I fear this will happen again. Wasn‘t it so in several nests we have watched the last years? Also in Ozols nest in 2014? Surely this was one of the storks from last year, and he still wants to have back his nest.
Maybe these things happen more often than we know by now.
I hope, there were no more fights needed.
The good news: the second egg is there! And the nest meanwhile looks very cosy.
Thank you very much,
Liz, for all the pictures and reports!

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 2:28 pm
by Summi
OMG
Good that the two eggs are O.K.
Liz 
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:02 pm
by Liz01
Michi wrote: April 14th, 2018, 1:38 pm
Oh dear!

And he was there a very long time, until he finally was chased away. I fear this will happen again. Wasn‘t it so in several nests we have watched the last years? Also in Ozols nest in 2014? Surely this was one of the storks from last year, and he still wants to have back his nest.
Maybe these things happen more often than we know by now.
I hope, there were no more fights needed.
The good news: the second egg is there! And the nest meanwhile looks very cosy.
Thank you very much,
Liz, for all the pictures and reports!:2thumbsup:
Michi,you're welcome
it was in Ozols Nest 2015 and 2016! I also think that it will happen again. the whole season .. unless the other couple finds a tree for build a nest and to breed there. But it may be too late for them.
EDIT: Summi

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:03 pm
by Liz01
14:53 Gaja comes home
14:57 mating attempt
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:06 pm
by Michi
As far as I‘ve seen, the female left the nest at 13:07 after Kaupo arrived.
She returned at 14:53.
In the whole meantime Kaupo has not breed, for almost 2 hours. He always stands.
Weren‘t there also before interruptions in breeding, because of the strange stork? I wonder if that can be a harm for the eggs, especially for the first laid egg. The storks have breed it already a while.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:34 pm
by Michi
15:31 Still both storks on nest. And still no breeding.
They are preening, each other and themselves.
15:33
Still looking for the strange stork?

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:54 pm
by Michi
15:44 Kaupo intensely preens Gaja.
15:46 They have mated.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:55 pm
by Liz01
15:51 Kaupo flew away
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 3:57 pm
by Biker
Marfo wrote: April 14th, 2018, 1:11 pm
(It is not possible anymore to quote with earlier quotes included..)
My remark wasn't especially directed to you. I am sure you research first and write later. I don't have time to read everything I like either. I meant that it is an interesting subject for
anyone who is interested and has time to read about it.
@Liz01 Don't read anything in my post I didn't write. I am not telling anyone what to do.
@
Marfo:
I had understood immediatley you at your first post

I did not relate it directly to myself and certainly not as a reproach to anyone

, hope it doesn't bother you that i had to add my mustard to it.
The discussion posts deviating from the topic black stork reports on the last 3 pages concern on the topic "displacement behavior of birds", which started here, and here arising disinformations.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 5:24 pm
by Liz01
17:22 Kaupo has returned

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 5:29 pm
by Liz01
17:28 Gaja flew away
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 6:10 pm
by Michi
17:53 Kaupo has digged the nest bowl quite a long time.
17:55 Finally he settled down on the eggs. But he wasn't content before he has checked his new builded nest. First on the right side ...
... then the left side.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 7:48 pm
by Liz01
19:14 Gaja has arrived home
19:47 She is at the parent branch preening

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 8:16 pm
by Michi
Liz01 wrote: April 14th, 2018, 7:48 pm
19:14 Gaja has arrived home
When Gaja arrived, she brought a bunch of grass and soil. More soil than grass, I think.
19:57 An interesting and rare view while preening, - the feathers from the other side. I think, it's Kaupo.
20:13 Both are still preening, no one is on the eggs.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: April 14th, 2018, 9:10 pm
by Michi
20:58 Night is coming and they still don't breed. Is this going to be a problem?
Other storks have been also disturbed by strange storks, but they always took care of their eggs.
