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Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: August 26th, 2018, 9:14 pm
by Solo
Abigyl wrote: August 25th, 2018, 12:49 am ... What are they going to do for next season ? ...
Dr. M.S.:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 38#p611138

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: August 27th, 2018, 7:43 am
by Abigyl
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 2nd, 2018, 12:43 pm
by Liz01
Abigyl wrote: August 25th, 2018, 12:49 am
.............Liz, What are they going to do for next season ?.........
Abigyl
M.S.....Nest - this year they won't do anything since it makes no sense. It has been fallen down before this year at least twice - and has been restored in the same place. After winter nothing may remain there - if support branch remains, they might rebuild it within a few days. May not. This is actually very interesting document to see how it happens - as it has happened repeatedly in other nests too - exactly around the time of departure and in some cases has caused departure. It is obviously a good indicator of poor nest site (location in tree) wich in turn is indication of lack of good sites altogether.
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 87#p569387
So we have to wait and see what happens here next year
All important data are on the first page, including all interesting news from Maris S.
Conservation ecology of the black stork in Latvia by Maris Strazds (Dissertation 2011 ) :
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/71748412.pdf
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 3rd, 2018, 8:27 am
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: September 2nd, 2018, 12:43 pm ... All important data are on the first page, including all interesting news from Maris S.

...
Liz,
thank you very much for that

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 3rd, 2018, 8:27 am
by Solo
2x

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 3rd, 2018, 9:27 pm
by Abigyl
Thanks Liz! Let's hope that we'll see this nice family on a renovated nest. Like they did at Karl's.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 5th, 2018, 5:03 pm
by Abigyl
Liz,
Your BS nest is sooooo biggggg!
Comparing to Durbe's nest
I hope that our favorite nests will come back

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 16th, 2018, 11:30 am
by Liz01
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 16th, 2018, 8:41 pm
by Sue
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: September 17th, 2018, 4:27 pm
by Liz01
Sue, you're welcome
Our storks were well fed and healthy. I also hope they are doing well

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 6th, 2018, 5:31 am
by Liz01
There is a very interesting article by Maris Strazds on Goris. Distinguishing marks male and female.
My observation, that only the male sings, when he comes to the nest is correct. So one can say now, the black stork, which came to Estonia first to the nest in this year, was a male. It was not Kati and certainly not Karl.
It is not correct to say that the male always jumps on the female. It can be the other way around. So it is not a distinguishing feature.
Nor can we say that the two who were at the nest in the evening are the same in the morning. Unless they have distinctive features...
Maris says it's important to document events that happen very fast, in minutes and seconds. So I do it
http://www.goris.lv/noverojumu-veiksana/
I will translate the text later.
Next season I will focus on the behavior of the black storks.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 6th, 2018, 5:32 pm
by Liz01
SEARCH FOR TRANSPORT.
Hi, dear followers! At present, intensive work is under way on the development of the Black Stork Protection Plan, but it is necessary on October 11 with Marie Strazds and the climber to go to the nests. The routes are Jurkalne-Virgale and / or Glāzbiekis-Piebalgs-Limbaži. If someone on October 11th can assist you on one of the traveling routes, please email us.
mstrazds@latnet.lv
Sincere thanks in advance ♥
https://www.facebook.com/DzivibasLidojums
I wish, I could be there

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 8th, 2018, 3:44 pm
by balistar
Liz01 wrote: October 6th, 2018, 5:31 am
There is a very interesting article by Maris Strazds on Goris. Distinguishing marks male and female.
My observation, that only the male sings, when he comes to the nest is correct. So one can say now, the black stork, which came to Estonia first to the nest in this year, was a male. It was not Kati and certainly not Karl.
It is not correct to say that the male always jumps on the female. It can be the other way around. So it is not a distinguishing feature.
Nor can we say that the two who were at the nest in the evening are the same in the morning. Unless they have distinctive features...
......
Thank you, Liz

, for sharing this very interesting article. Now we can draw conclusions or we have answers to some questions that have occupied us this season.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 11th, 2018, 8:55 pm
by Sue
Liz01 wrote: October 6th, 2018, 5:31 am
There is a very interesting article by Maris Strazds on Goris. Distinguishing marks male and female.
Hi Liz

, very interesting, thanks for sharing

. Among others very usefull for the beginning of the next season

.

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 18th, 2018, 8:46 pm
by Liz01
The black stork migrates in much wider front than the white stork, so the train across the Alps, Italy and the Mediterranean islands (Sicily, Malta) should be stronger than its relative (Glutz von Blotzheim 2001a).
Summary
Although the data situation (76 rings / 54 finds) is relatively small in black storks, it is still possible to draw first conclusions regarding the directions of the train. Based on the current state of knowledge about the species, the separation in East and West
migration should not be as pronounced as, for example, in white storks. The "March black storks" that breed in the north-east of Austria, for the most part, appear as eastern migration (see Figure 33). The two finds from Western Europe of black storks ringed in Styria suggest a western migration of these populations, which corresponds to the literature. Furthermore, also according to the standard literature, in the map in Figure 31, if only anecdotally (1 individual), there is an indication of direct north-south-train (and therefore over the Alps) through Europe. The breeding-time finds in Figure 32 indicate an exchange between the Austrian and the Czech populations. Since both western and eastern migrations birds could be proven there, further investigations lead to promising questions regarding inheritance and learning of migrations directions. The black stork is similar to the white stork due to its size and the leg length predestined for the marking by means of rings. This is reflected in a high probability of reading (about 15%!). A continuation of the individual marking by means of readable rings is therefore to be supported in any case. On the one hand, relevant questions of population ecology such as breeding success, spread tendencies or origins can be processed. But also phenological aspects and questions concerning migration routes, which are especially important in this relatively "new" and strictly protected species (Annex I, EU Bird Protection Guidelines) can be answered.
file:///D:/Download/Diverse%20Dateien/BirdLife_Vogelzuggeschehens_in_Oesterreich_web.pdf
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: October 19th, 2018, 1:14 pm
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: October 18th, 2018, 8:46 pm ... file:///D:/Download/Diverse%20Dateien/BirdLife_Vogelzuggeschehens_in_Oesterreich_web.pdf
https://www.birdlife.at/web/binary/save ... nt&id=2923
Liz,
thanks for translating

- interesting infos

, also the all previous

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: November 10th, 2018, 10:10 am
by Marfo
November 9
Camera is not working.
Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: November 22nd, 2018, 12:13 pm
by Liz01
MĀRIS wrote in the DD Forum:
When we traveled the black nests to look at, I asked M. Strazds also about the future of this live stream, the nest.
There is no plan to change the live video nest yet, as it's likely that next year we will see events in this same nest. He is also not artificially restored because she is in a very difficult place where even live streaming was already a challenge....
https://forums.dabasdati.lv/viewtopic.p ... 94#p201494
Maris, thank you for the info

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: November 26th, 2018, 2:34 pm
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: November 22nd, 2018, 12:13 pm ...
Liz,
TY for this info - it will be nice to see once more this nest with so great parents who raised these very nice 4 storks

Re: Latvian black storks - 2018
Posted: January 15th, 2019, 7:45 am
by Liz01
2019
some nests were found

:
https://forums.dabasdati.lv/viewtopic.p ... 83#p205183
....
Today we drove to look for black stork nests. The first was a beautiful, diverse forest, with many potential nest trees for several large bird species, and most importantly, we found a total of 5 nests. One of them is an oak-black stork nest that has been inhabited for at least 7-8 years there. ..... Let's wait for spring.
Information on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/DzivibasLidoju ... Rw&fref=nf