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Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 1:21 am
by Michi
UteL. wrote:Do migratory birds continue their flight to the breeding areas after a long compulsory break?
Liz01 wrote:You have written, that you watch storks via internet for 20 years. You should know what they are doing in such a weather?
UteL., to give you another answer: I guess, the storks will continue their flight to the north, if weather is getting better in the foreseeable future. I'm not an ornithologist, who has experiences with such bad weather conditions (most of us are laymen), but this tells me my intuition.
What happened, if the bad weather goes on for weeks, I suppose, nobody will know exactly. There are questions where is no answer in advance, and we can only wait and see what happens.
My
assumption is, they continue their flight in every case. But if they breed then, when it's so late in time???

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 6:23 am
by Liz01
I remember that in 2010 was a very long winter. We had snow until Mai. After the snowmelt, you could see all the fireworks from 31 Dec-January
In this year Raivo arrived on 27.04. in his breeding area! Whether he's still breeding, only Urmas can know.
2007 14.04.
2008 15.04
2009 17.04
2010 27.04
2011 15.04
2012 07.04
2013 18.04
2014 27.03
2015 31.03
2016 31.03
2017 30.03
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 7:32 am
by UteL.
TY Michi ....I mean by now, WS do not necessarily spend each year in their traditional breeding grounds,because of weather, now they can be well tracked with transmitters.
Karl is on his way again

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 7:39 am
by Solo
Good morning to all
Karl
Hellem wrote:March 26 -
Karl is in Turkey, distance 4584 km (+793 km)

Hellem, TY
Michi, TY

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 7:49 am
by Solo
KARL
change
actually (maybe in flight) - Ayrancı is a town and district of Karaman Province in the Central Anatolia region of Turkey.
Ayranci
https://static.panoramio.com.storage.go ... 308187.jpg
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 8:06 am
by Solo
KARL
direction Marmara See (Bosporus? or Dardanelles?)
Karl and Eedi
27.03.2018
Karl: Distance: 4584 km, Last data: 26.03.2018
Eedi Distance: 3924 km Last data: 25.03.2018

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 8:20 am
by Solo
UteL. wrote:Do migratory birds continue their flight to the breeding areas after a long compulsory break?
Michi wrote:... I guess, the storks will continue their flight to the north, if weather is getting better in the foreseeable future. ... My
assumption is, they continue their flight in every case.
But if they breed then, when it's so late in time???

Solo: "when they are O.K. (not ill and good wheater) then they continue their migration route to their nesting area

"(
viewtopic.php?p=570665#p570665)
Michi, UteL.
- yes, they breed and it is big problem for the chicks from this (very) late breeding
- time to time the nest can bee occupied with another stork (or new pair) and the answer can be not from this reason (looking for new nest, new partner) - we can see also (hard) fight for nest, ...
UteL. wrote:....I mean by now, WS do not necessarily spend each year in their traditional breeding grounds,because of weather ...
UteL., they are more true to breeding area (nest, food) for more than to partner (necessarily not the same nest or area, but because wheater? i read not about)
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:02 am
by UteL.
To learn more about it, I'm following bird migration for the first time this year

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:13 am
by Solo
UteL. wrote:To learn more about it, I'm following bird migration for the first time this year

they are enough much scientific papers on internet (also in German)
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:22 am
by UteL.
Solo wrote:
they are enough much scientific papers on internet (also in German)
Learning by doing = my recipe

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:30 am
by Solo
Liz01 wrote: ... Raivo ....Whether he's still breeding, only Urmas can know. ...
27.03. (2014) - 27.04. (2010) one month difference
week 13 (27.03. - 01.04.) 4x (2014, 2015, 2016, 2017)
week 14 (02.04. - 08.04.) 1x (2012)
week 15 (09.04. - 15.04.) 3x (2011, 2008, 2007)
week 16 (16.04. - 22.04.) 2x (2013, 2009)
week 17 (23.04. - 29.04.) 1x (2010 - Liz: "I remember that in 2010 was a very long winter. We had snow until Mai.")
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:37 am
by Solo
... mistake
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:38 am
by Solo
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UteL. wrote:To learn more about it, I'm following bird migration for the first time this year

Solo wrote:they are enough much scientific papers on internet (also in German)
UteL. wrote:Learning by doing = my recipe

(UteL., you are migratory bird? "Learning by doing"

)
I usually look for an explanation if something is happening - but in expert sources, from experts and I also very appreciate the information from in these issues experienced and well-read observers here

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:50 am
by UteL.
Excuse me now, everything is fine

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 4:06 pm
by Solo
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 6:04 pm
by Solo
goris
AIVO and MARE - today they aren't new data
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 6:25 pm
by Solo
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 8:36 pm
by Solo
Eedi is flying good, looks healthy and ate
she made video, but she can not advance enough near to Eedi - he is (still) bashful, she bring for him 3kg fisch (

)
video https://www.facebook.com/10001449931281 ... 369142704/
for more (scroll down):
https://goo.gl/BZQxtm
it was one BS in the area (this is not our Eedi I think

)
https://www.facebook.com/adapostcanin.c ... 5013563442
EDIT the answer "He did not allow me to get closer, 40 meters away as I was near him"
the wheater is better, very much storks left the area
https://www.facebook.com/adapostcanin.c ... nref=story
EDIT 2 the newest info from this awesome lady: "Now called to me one friend that he saw a black stork 3km from Srebarna in the direction to Silistra. I will do my best to check the terrain tomorrow."

Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:09 pm
by Anne7
It is very encouraging and touching to see that many good people are helping all those storks!
Thank you so much.
Respect!
Thank you Solo for the information.
Re: Black Stork Tracks
Posted: March 27th, 2018, 9:23 pm
by aquiline
Solo, thank you for your work. Please say also many thanks to this great stork helper
