Following Karls' Families

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Last update for MARU

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Maru was born on 18th of May 2018. She started her migration on 4th of August 2018 at the age of 78 days and is flown almost 8.880 km until 25th of February 2019.
Maru was 9 months and 7 days old.
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because the dead bird is located very obviously on the KIMA grounds (at least in the immediate vicinity),
should the contact with that company enable to find it.
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Good Morning Anne, Solo, Michi, Abigyl, Hellem, Sova and all :hi:

Thanks to all for the information. Yesterday I was very shocked when I read it. I'm slowly missing the words for all this.
Every year we lose so many of them. Nothing has changed.
They get transmitter and we can see straight away that many of them will not be a year old.
I hope that the Transmitter will be found and the evaluation of the data brings some clarity. In the case of Maru one would also need the body. He needs to be investigated as to what he / she died from. Shortage of food, drinking of this waste water, eat of poisoned fish ect. That would be important.

Anne, thanks for the exact analysis of the last movement data. :bow: That's just interesting for me to know that I've guessed right.

I sincerely hope that Karula becomes our second Raivo :bow:
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Many thanks for your discussion and help about Maru!
We have to place ourselves in conditions Africa - there is not all obvious, what seems here normal and possible. Of course, would be perfect to analyze in different ways the body of Maru for reason of perish if found, but there is probably no more options as visual observation. Even in some countries in Europe it can be difficult to find veterinary able to make those analyses. And there is really problematic to bring dead body of CITES species to another country, papers may take months to be solved.
We can now wait for realizing of birdwatcher Ahmed promise that two guys are going to find Marus body, latest in Friday. They are not local, but have to travel for.
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Urmas wrote: February 27th, 2019, 7:18 am Many thanks for your discussion and help about Maru!
We have to place ourselves in conditions Africa - there is not all obvious, what seems here normal and possible. Of course, would be perfect to analyze in different ways the body of Maru for reason of perish if found, but there is probably no more options as visual observation. Even in some countries in Europe it can be difficult to find veterinary able to make those analyses. And there is really problematic to bring dead body of CITES species to another country, papers may take months to be solved.
We can now wait for realizing of birdwatcher Ahmed promise that two guys are going to find Marus body, latest in Friday. They are not local, but have to travel for.
Thank you Urmas. :2thumbsup: This is a pity! But I realize that it is even difficult to bring food from one country to another. Nevertheless, I hope that you can recognize what happened to Maru. :bow:
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Abigyl wrote: February 27th, 2019, 12:32 am...Solo, what are all the hyphens in your msgs? :puzzled:
:hi: Abigyl,
that-is-help,-my-keyboard-get-some-tea-drops- :blush: and-now-more-keybuttons-are-functionless- :bow: (for-more-letters-I-us-virtual-keybord-thanks-to-asteria-and-our-Liz- :2thumbsup: )
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Good morning to all

Päike and now Maru ...
I do not know about you all, but I'm so sad, with tears. Yesterday I did not dare to write about it. I know, it's not about feelings but about facts but still. I am very grateful that Michi has written as I feel.
Dear Michi .... I hug you too, very firmly!

Anne, Solo; Liz ... Mr. Urmas thanks for all the data, pictures, explanations ....
Abigyl and Treia .... great optimists (that's nice).
Well ... fly Maru ... fly to a better place.
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oh no................. :cry:
until now I didnt want to believe their high mortality and I am so sad for all the human interventions that make the life for animals so difficult.
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Urmas wrote: February 27th, 2019, 7:18 am
We can now wait for realizing of birdwatcher Ahmed promise that two guys are going to find Marus body, latest in Friday. They are not local, but have to travel for.
Thanks Urmas for your update; we have to be very very thankful to people who are ready to help. Most people there are poor, don't have private cars and roads are not excellent.
Friday is their free day, let's hope they'll make it till the weekend.
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Hello all
I am Amr from Aswan, Egypt
I received a massage from my friend Ahmed yesterday about the situation of the Black stork and I'm in the way to find out what happened for Maru
The last coordinate I have
https://goo.gl/maps/QD8yHcQAXgA2
Do we have any chang on it?
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Amr Hady wrote: February 27th, 2019, 10:53 am Hello all
I am Amr from Aswan, Egypt
I received a massage from my friend Ahmed yesterday about the situation of the Black stork and I'm in the way to find out what happened for Maru
The last coordinate I have
https://goo.gl/maps/QD8yHcQAXgA2
Do we have any chang on it?
Hello Amr! :wave:

Many, many thanks for your help! We are very grateful.
Here you can see the latest known location of Maru, at 10:31:16 (UTC+2) this morning:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vc7e3 ... sp=sharing

Good luck!

EDIT:
Would you please take pictures of our poor little Maru, and also of the surroundings?
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Amr Hady wrote: February 27th, 2019, 10:53 am...
:hi: Amr,
wellcome to the forum :gathering:
nothying new
big thanx to both :2thumbsup:
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:hi: Amr!

Good luck and many thanks, hopefully you manage it. !
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Here is our little Karula's tracker map for this morning.

TRACKER MAP
Karula_Feb27_morning
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WNffL ... sp=sharing
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Around the world, we find people who love birds.
Amr, we thank you for your efforts and wish you success.
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Anne7 wrote: February 27th, 2019, 11:33 amHere is our little Karula's tracker map for this morning....
KARULA
Nir David (Gan Hashlosha) from bird's eye view- :2thumbsup: (also-the-ponds-and-the-fields)
https://youtu.be/eyZkewQhnMY
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what sad news! :cry:
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EDIT:
Would you please take pictures of our poor little Maru, and also of the surroundings?
pictures of the dead bird? wouldn't that be too distressing? :shock:
i shouldn't like to see any. it has been so sad to watch any of our dead chicks on their nests...

the surroundings would be interesting to see. we see so many nature films which are made in Africa, but we very seldom see 'our' migrating birds in those films. i have started to wonder why that is...
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ame wrote: February 27th, 2019, 12:02 pm what sad news! :cry:

pictures of the dead bird? wouldn't that be too distressing? :shock:
i shouldn't like to see any. it has been so sad to watch any of our dead chicks on their nests...

the surroundings would be interesting to see. we see so many nature films which are made in Africa, but we very seldom see 'our' migrating birds in those films. i have started to wonder why that is...
ame :wave:

It was certainly not my intention to ask for the pictures of our little Maru on the forum.
Certainly not if they are shocking or distressing!
But I suppose detailed photographs of Maru's body may be of interest to Urmas and other ornithologists.
Possibly, pictures can help to know the cause of death.
On photographs, one can probably see if Maru was malnourished or not.
And whether there are other indications, such as injuries or external signs of illness.
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Hello everyone,
Urmas wrote: February 27th, 2019, 7:18 am [....]Of course, would be perfect to analyze in different ways the body of Maru for reason of perish if found, but there is probably no more options as visual observation.
[....]
I'm sure Urmas also asked for photographs. It's quite important that he sees Maru's external condition.

Hello Amr :wave:, we are very grateful that you are taking care of our Black Stork. Many thanks!
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Michi wrote: February 27th, 2019, 12:33 pm...I'm sure Urmas also asked for photographs. It's quite important that he sees Marus's external condition...
:nod:
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