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Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 11:14 am
by asteria
For Karl it is very possible that his transmitter is down. There is a looong list of such birds.
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 11:16 am
by Hellem
07.04 New update by
Karula - 777 km (
+12 km), the same area in the Jordan River Valley
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 11:17 am
by Anne7
April 7th
Good morning, everyone
Treia wrote: April 7th, 2019, 7:24 am
:wave : Good morning everyone!
Päikes transmitter stopped working 07.10.2018
Maru died on 25.02.2019, but last data from her transmitter came 26.02.2019
Karls transmitter stopped working 29.03.2019
Could it be so that both, Päike and Karl, are now travelling in an unknown place for us?
Treia
We just don't know if Paike and Karl are still alive. A defective transmitter is (in my opinion) rather unlikely, but can of course not be excluded. Transmitters can cease to work. There is no evidence that Karl and Päike perished, nor evidence that they are still alive. It remains an open question. If Karl doesn't return to his nest in Karula Park, he probably died. Let's wait and see what happens.
Hellem wrote: April 7th, 2019, 11:16 am
07.04 New update by
Karula - 777 km (
+12 km), the same area in the Jordan River Valley
Thanks, Hellem
Here is Karula's morning map:
TRACKER MAP
Karula_April07_morning
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fJo2E ... sp=sharing

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 12:09 pm
by Treia
by Anne7 » April 7th, 2019, 11:17 am
Treia
We just don't know if Paike and Karl are still alive. A defective transmitter is (in my opinion) rather unlikely, but can of course not be excluded. Transmitters can cease to work. There is no evidence that Karl and Päike perished, nor evidence that they are still alive. It remains an open question. If Karl doesn't return to his nest in Karula Park, he probably died. Let's wait and see what happens.
Thank you Anne, roughly the same way I think.
Thank you Asteria, we can hope.
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 2:26 pm
by baska
Hello all together !
If KARL will not come back, I would be inconsolable !
I hope very, very much, that nothing bad happened to him !
All the best for you, Karl !!!
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 10:23 pm
by Anne7
baska wrote: April 7th, 2019, 2:26 pm
... If KARL will not come back, I would be inconsolable !
I hope very, very much, that nothing bad happened to him !
All the best for you, Karl !!!
I know,
baska
Let's hope for the best.
We will probably know more next weekend.
Here is Karula's map for the entire day:
TRACKER MAP
Karula_April07_CompleteDay
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qeXfE ... sp=sharing
Karula is still in the same area.
He sleeps at another location tonight.

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 7th, 2019, 10:32 pm
by Anne7
Many thanks for the weather reports,
Sova
It is getting warm in Tall al Manţaḩ.
TODAY'S SUMMARY APRIL 07
KARL
Karl's spring migration started in West Equatoria, South Sudan, on 13.03. He appeared on birdmap on 16.03.
The below distance measurement starts on March 02.
No new data (Last data:
29.03.2019 / 4155 km / near Akkari (Homs Governorate) in Syria)
We do not know where Karl is.
MARU
Maru perished on 25.02.2019 at about 13:00, near the Al Ballanah wastewater ponds in Egypt.
Last flight data: 25.02.2019
PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)
Last known location: near Schiza Island, Peloponnese, Greece
KARULA
Birdmap was set to spring migration and a new distance measurement started on 15.02.2019 (Total distance on 14.02.2019: 6606 km)
Last data
07.04.2019
Distance: 777 km (
+ 12 km in 2 days), same area, near Tall al Manţaḩ in the Jordan River Valley.
Weather report on 07.04 in Tall al Manţaḩ at 10:00
Temp: 24°;
(at 15:00) 27°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 30%
Air pressure: 1010 hPa
Wind 100 m -
S/SW (10 km/h);
(at 15:00) W (16 km/h)
Wind 250 m -
S/SW (10 km/h);
(at 15:00) W (17 km/h)
Wind 500 m -
S/SW (12 km/h);
(at 15:00) W (17 km/h)
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 10:13 am
by Anne7
April 8th
The morning map for
Karula failed
Last data received by GPRS: 2019-04-08
04:13:16 (UTC+3)
Next data session expected: 2019-04-08
16:13:16 (UTC+3)
His latest known location at 04:00:36 (UTC+3)

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 4:43 pm
by Anne7
Karula's afternoon map:
TRACKER MAP
Karula_April08_afternoon
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1m-BlA ... sp=sharing
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 6:02 pm
by sova
Good day
Anne,
Karula's data is available
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 8:13 pm
by modi
Bad news for storks (and many other birds)
In Istanbul they build a new airport. On 6 April, the company transferred its operations from Atatürk Airport to the new Istanbul Airport. The new airport is located directly on bird migration routes, especially those of storks. Environmental concerns have been swept away in advance.
A dossier from german newspaper "taz":
https://taz.atavist.com/istanbul-flugha ... er-4819869
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 8:48 pm
by Anne7
modi wrote: April 8th, 2019, 8:13 pm
Bad news for storks (and many other birds)
....
modi
That's indeed bad news.
They will have to come up with a good solution.
Most birdstrikes involve large birds.
Collision is a contributing factor to the worldwide decline of avian species.
The collision between an aeroplane and a stork (or other bird) is not only deadly for the bird.
If a bird collides with the windscreen or is 'ingested' or sucked into the engine, the plane can crash. Birdstrikes are a significant threat to flight safety and have caused a number of accidents with human casualties.
sova wrote: April 8th, 2019, 6:02 pm
Good day
Anne,
Karula's data is available
Thank you,
Sova.
TODAY'S SUMMARY APRIL 08
KARL
Karl's spring migration started in West Equatoria, South Sudan, on 13.03. He appeared on birdmap on 16.03.
The below distance measurement starts on March 02.
No new data (Last data:
29.03.2019 / 4155 km / near Akkari (Homs Governorate) in Syria)
We do not know where Karl is.
MARU
Maru perished on 25.02.2019 at about 13:00, near the Al Ballanah wastewater ponds in Egypt.
Last flight data: 25.02.2019
PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)
Last known location: near Schiza Island, Peloponnese, Greece
KARULA
Birdmap was set to spring migration and a new distance measurement started on 15.02.2019 (Total distance on 14.02.2019: 6606 km)
No new data (Last data
07.04.2019 / 777 km)
He is in the same area, near Tall al Manţaḩ in the Jordan River Valley.
Weather report on 08.04 in Tall al Manţaḩ at 10:00
Temp: 26°;
(at 15:00) 27°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 30%
Air pressure: 1009 hPa
Wind 100 m -
SW (05 km/h);
(at 15:00) W/NW (26 km/h)
Wind 250 m -
SW (05 km/h);
(at 15:00) W/NW (26 km/h)
Wind 500 m -
SW (13 km/h);
(at 15:00) W/NW (27 km/h)
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 8th, 2019, 10:55 pm
by Michi
modi wrote: April 8th, 2019, 8:13 pm
Bad news for storks (and many other birds)
In Istanbul they build a new airport.
It is awful, probably a big disaster for storks and other birds.
I've seen these news in TV. The airport has been opened in the meantime.
It has been reported also that this airport is very harmful to migratory birds. But the bad government of this country has completely ignored the concerns of environmentalists. :-(((
For me, a holiday in this country is now out of the question (apart from all the questionableness that exists anyway).
Thank you,
Anne and Sova, for Karulas tracker map, the summary and the weather reports!
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 9:31 am
by Liz01
April 9
Good Morning Anne, Michi, Sova and all
Thank you for updates
In the Karula Thread:
Urmas wrote: April 9th, 2019, 8:58 am
According temperature measured by Karls transmitter there was cold weather since crossing Sinai and Karl made several stops in 28th of March as well as in last location moved few hundreds of meters in half hour.
But still nothing new through transmitter.
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 11:21 am
by Anne7
Good morning,
everyone
Liz, thanks for duplicating Urmas' post here.
Karula's morning map:
TRACKER MAP
Karula_April09_morning
https://drive.google.com/open?id=12631z ... sp=sharing
It looks as if Karula is still happy with his current location.

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 4:46 pm
by Anne7
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 7:48 pm
by sova
Good day
Anne,
Michi,
Liz and all
Weather data is available

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 8:55 pm
by Anne7
sova wrote: April 9th, 2019, 7:48 pm
Good day
Anne,
Michi,
Liz and all
Weather data is available
Hello,
Sova
Many thanks.
The weather seems to be nice, in Tall al Manţaḩ.
TODAY'S SUMMARY APRIL 09
KARL
Karl's spring migration started in West Equatoria, South Sudan, on 13.03. He appeared on birdmap on 16.03.
The below distance measurement starts on March 02.
No new data (Last data:
29.03.2019 / 4155 km / near Akkari (Homs Governorate) in Syria)
We do not know where Karl is.
MARU
Maru perished on 25.02.2019 at about 13:00, near the Al Ballanah wastewater ponds in Egypt.
Last flight data: 25.02.2019
PÄIKE
No new data (Last data: 07.10.2018)
Last known location: near Schiza Island, Peloponnese, Greece
KARULA
Birdmap was set to spring migration and a new distance measurement started on 15.02.2019 (Total distance on 14.02.2019: 6606 km)
No new data (Last data
07.04.2019 / 777 km)
He is in the same area, near Tall al Manţaḩ in the Jordan River Valley.
Weather report on 09.04 in Tall al Manţaḩ at 10:00
Temp: 23°;
(at 15:00) 27°
Precipitation: 0 mm
Humidity: 30%
Air pressure: 1010 hPa
Wind 100 m -
S/SW (06 km/h);
(at 15:00) W (08 km/h)
Wind 250 m -
S/SW (06 km/h);
(at 15:00) W (07 km/h)
Wind 500 m -
S/SW (09 km/h);
(at 15:00) W/SW (13 km/h)
Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 9th, 2019, 10:46 pm
by Anne7
TRACKER MAP
Karula_April09_CompleteDay
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yo7O- ... sp=sharing
Sleep well, everyone.

Re: Following Karl's Family
Posted: April 10th, 2019, 10:04 am
by Hellem
10.04 New update by
Karula - 844 km (
+67 km), the same area in the Jordan River Valley near Tal Al-Mantah