Black Stork Nest in Karula 2020

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the funniest photo for today: after another" fallout " from the nest of a girlfriend, our stork stands and is nervous: all his feathers stand on end from this young woman... He had the same look last year when he caught a fish, flew in, and there are no children in the nest... he also turns to us and asks: "No, have you seen this?" :puzzled: In short, he is in shock... :
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and yet: in the morning, he sees and does not believe his eyes-his girlfriend is flying to him! :shock:
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HelenL44 wrote: May 5th, 2020, 12:14 am ... When you heard the attack was it the faint sound of the clacking beaks? I heard some of the clatter a B.S. makes with the beak during that time Karl left to chase the other stork. Otherwise, can you tell us what it sounds like if not the beak sounds? ...
about beak tapping: We have a very talkative stork. It even grumbles when it is alone: it taps its beak, sobs when it sees that something is wrong in the nest, or is about to fly out for materials, or when it is dissatisfied with what it has done, or if something does not work out... grumbler. When he is nervous, he raises his feathers on end... He taps his beak before starting active actions, when caring for a friend and when lying at her feet-attracts attention and calms her. When it was in a nest with young Chicks in 2019, it tapped its beak before taking off, addressing its mate as if to say it was leaving and asking for approval. It also taps its beak in anticipation of a mate - it calls for her not just by shouting... Katya answered him, and he flew away. The rattle of the beak and the sobs as they inhale and exhale are their conversation... Somewhere it was written that black storks hardly speak..."in our nest, all storks are very talkative...
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:hi: all,

Just a hint, for the considerations of the brown belly feathers of the young Princess:

In the Latvian BS nest, the equally tender young Lady also has brown belly feathers:

video by Ligzdas Gariņš
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SFBXEN5-Y
(in video scroll to 2:45 to see the belly feathers of the female)

Coincidence ? Have both bathed in the same peat pond? Is it a matter of genes ? :puzzled:
I am confused and cannot make sense of it. None of the previous considerations have convinced me so far. I wonder if we'll find out the reason.
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Thank you, Tatiana60, for your loving observations and for sharing them with us.
I really enjoyed reading it.
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Good morning

Karl II has been standing on the nest for a long time. He doesn't dare to fly out so that not to miss the girlfriend should she come. :nod:
11:26 flies to search her on fishing brooks, makes a circle around and 11:28 returns.
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:hi:
11:28 Karl II is back and singing, he flew from the left
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Good morning :hi:

Karl II wakes up at about 05:15
05:58 He flies out to the left, probably for breakfast

07:22 He flies in on the right and sings
08:38 He flies out to the right

08:42 In with some moss
09:01 OUT to the right

09:03 IN with a bit of moss and soil again
09:18 OUT to the right

09:25 IN with a branch
10:08 OUT to the left

10:10 IN. He brings nothing
11:18 Nice wing and leg stretching
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Summi wrote: May 5th, 2020, 11:25 am ...
11:26 flies to search her on fishing brooks, makes a circle around and 11:28 returns.
Summi :hi:

11:26 OUT to the right

11:28:26 Karl II flies full speed straight over the nest (from the front to the back).
He turns in the forest to the left and flies in a wide circle towards the nest.
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11:28:33-34 He lands on the nest on the left
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Hello everybody
she wasn't there today.
He sings, works on the nest, lies down, looks up, sings and flies away, I'm so sorry, he's looking for her.

Could it be that such a young stork lady, who is not yet sexually mature, flies undecided between the men? And yesterday's visit from the strange stork.
It is definitely just my human thinking!
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Good morning, everyone.
13.02 The girlfriend flew in and sat on our pine tree, but behind the camera, which made Karl so excited. His last attempt to attract her attention was to lie down in the nest, but she flew away, and he followed her, leaping from the nest to the right.

https://ok.ru/video/1525492550270

maybe she came to invite him to hunt...
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by Anne7 » May 4th, 2020, 12:51 pm
I have been wondering too. :nod:
This does not look like mud, I think.
Could it be that this young female spent some time (wintering?) in peatlands?
Peat water in bogs is yellowish or brownish and contains tannins that may have 'dyed' her white feathers in a fairly persistent way. (Just like an old tea stain on a white shirt can hardly be washed off.)
by Liz01 » May 4th, 2020, 6:04 am
... BTW: I am amazed that the lady still has brown feathers. Maybe she can't find a water where she can clean her plumage? It is unusual for me. Black storks love to take a bathe. Usually you can see it, in breeding birds if they are sitting in a wet nest. Kati was also sometimes muddy on the plumage.
by balistar » May 5th, 2020, 3:35 am
:hi: all,

Just a hint, for the considerations of the brown belly feathers of the young Princess:
In the Latvian BS nest, the equally tender young Lady also has brown belly feathers:

video by Ligzdas Gariņš
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2SFBXEN5-Y
(in video scroll to 2:45 to see the belly feathers of the female)

Coincidence ? Have both bathed in the same peat pond? Is it a matter of genes ? :puzzled:
I am confused and cannot make sense of it. None of the previous considerations have convinced me so far. I wonder if we'll find out the reason.
:hi:
The theory of feather coloring by visiting peat ponds is conclusive. dyes have also already in the old days, been obtained from peat, (there was even peat ink).
Let's see how durable/resistant the coloring is in the case of Karl' s new young female.
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Ok thanks Tatiana60 for the message ..... too bad that it flew away
Tatiana60 wrote: May 5th, 2020, 1:15 pm Good morning, everyone. The girlfriend flew in and sat on our pine tree, but behind the camera, which made Karl so excited. His last attempt to attract her attention was to lie down in the nest, but she flew away, and he followed her, leaping from the nest to the right.
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Biker wrote: May 5th, 2020, 1:17 pm :hi:
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Let's see how durable/resistant the coloring is in the case of Karl' s new young female.
Yes, and thanks very much for the reply, Biker :hi:
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16.53.41 returned alone
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Hello everyone, :wave:
Liz01 wrote: May 4th, 2020, 6:33 pm ....
15:46 Karl starts an attack. After a fight (you can hear it) , Karl came back into the nest and flew away again.
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HelenL44 wrote: May 5th, 2020, 12:14 am ...
When you heard the attack was it the faint sound of the clacking beaks? I heard some of the clatter a B.S. makes with the beak during that time Karl left to chase the other stork. Otherwise, can you tell us what it sounds like if not the beak sounds?
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Helen, :hi: in Liz' video you can hear the fight well at 15:46:37, that's almost at the end of the video. Beside of beak clacking there's fierce wing flapping to hear.

Thanks for the video, Liz!
Thank you all for the reports and pictures!
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17.37 a small bird, which was crying loudly and was close to the nest, very impudently showed its presence, and this made our stork furious. He fidgeted, made a noise, tugged at the branches to show that this was his home, and decided to ignore her.
https://ok.ru/video/1525744077438

his hair always stands on end with indignation:
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17.52.31 flew from the favorite branch to the right
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Summi wrote: May 4th, 2020, 9:55 am On front page of Looduskalender it is said that the lean and dirty female is too young for nesting.
Summi :wave: I couldn't find such a message.
After a long search I found this one from May 3rd (in Estonian language):
https://www.looduskalender.ee/n/node/4472

A translation with GT says:
"How did the young, non-breeding female, remain in front of the camera?

Charles II has spent almost a month alone in the nest. The nesting black storks have eggs in the nest, ie the nest life is full.

On the first of May, in the afternoon, a female bird appeared in the nest - exciting news, but the bird looks thin and also dirty.

Also the next morning the young bird came to the nest. The male bird used all the art of "charming" his partner, lured him to lay eggs and what else…
"

"Thin and dirty" but nothing about nesting skills of the female. Is GT wrong?
However, I think we can't expect eggs. Indeed the female seems to be too young. Besides, she's barely on the nest. :rolleyes:
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17.44.04
our majestic Karl II alone alone, looking at us
(it seems to me as if he would ask "what am i doing wrong" ?)

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i feel so sorry for him and would like to say "nothing, Karl, you do everything perfect, she only is too young"

He went to the curved branch and flew off 17.53.52.
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@ Michi

"Kuidas noor veel mittepesitsemise eas emaslind kaamera ette jäi?"
How a young female not yet at the age of nesting stayed in front of the cam?
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20.01.27 flew into the nest on the right, one.
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