Latvian black storks - 2020/2021

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August 23
10:33 Storklet left the nest and did not return
11:33 Storklet left the nest and did not return


summary for the day:
feeding:
Grafs 0x


Grafiene was at the nest for the last time on August 12th at 14:40

The earliest documented fledge was 56 days in a nest with 4 chicks. On average, they spend 65-72 days in the nest, depending on the food available.

Hatch Times:
June 12th - #1 is today 73 days old / #1 fledged on August 21 at 7:43 AM
June 14th - #2 is today 71 days old / #2 fledged on August 21 at 9:32 AM
June 15th - #3 is today 70 days old / #3 fledged on August 20 at 8:39 AM

Storklets #2 and #3 hatched in the darkness. Could be they are 72 and 71 days old.
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Even a poorly flying storklet has a better chance than a non-fledged one abandoned by its parents in the nest as it happened last year in Latvia.
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asteria wrote: August 24th, 2021, 5:30 pm Even a poorly flying storklet has a better chance than a non-fledged one abandoned by its parents in the nest as it happened last year in Latvia.
funny comment
now we don't see them starve to death. That calms the conscience
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I still hope… that there would be some luck for those poor storklets… 🙏🏻

Thank you Liz for your work ♥️
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"I'm happy they are without transmitter."
"I feel very sad for them."

Liz, I am speechless ... :bow:
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Liz01 wrote: August 24th, 2021, 6:34 am Birdfriend :hi:
no food today and only 1 feeding yesterday. Most of the food for one storklet. The third was not on the nest, the second came in as almost all fish was eaten by the first. Last feeding before was July 20!

It is believed that they can find food themselves at this age. (Chat) :slap: This is more depressing to me than what happened here. I have been observing this food shortage for weeks. It got less and less. Since the end of July it would have been just enough to feed one of them well.
I mean, what do we learn from it ... they can survive with little food so long that we don't have to watch what happens.

I think the other two are the without food for long. Actually, I don't want to think about what will happen to them now. There is no food in this area. A feeding station has been set up 200 meters away. Maybe it will be found ...
Thank you, Liz, for repost! :wave:
When food would be available then they could find food for themselves...but it seems there is nearly nothing at this time. The last weeks Grafs brought much to less for them. The number of feedings during the days were terrifying.
You are right, for us it is better, that they are not ringed or haven't an transmitter.
Do you think, Grafs is still in the area?
btw. I went rewind and in the early afternoon the storklet pooped one drop on the nest... :bow:
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15:50 The poor and starve storklet left the nest and came no more back.
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A half minute before he/she made a poop- I guess there came only a drop or nothing- the cam made a short jump, so I could not see it.
I feel so sorry for these beauties, nobody can help them...

18:27-18:30 Storks calling...
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Birdfriend wrote: August 24th, 2021, 10:34 pm 15:50 The poor and starve storklet left the nest and came no more back.

😔

18:27-18:30 Storks calling...
Like seeing other stork? Maybe food delivery? Or …?
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schwarzstorch wrote: August 24th, 2021, 10:54 pm Like seeing other stork? Maybe food delivery? Or …?
I really hope so...I don't know exactly, pity that Liz is not here.
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Hope Grafs and storklets have found the feeder near the nest.
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August 26

Good Morning everyone! :hi:

Many of my contributions have disappeared :slap: in other threads too!
now I see! The posts from August 25th have disappeared. not only here

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I hope they can! :laugh:

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Link to the pictures from our Storklet on the pool feeder
https://forums.dabasdati.lv/viewtopic.p ... 42#p299542

my last post..
» August 25th, 2021, 3:38 pm

right now I check my records and found an interesting episode.

After the first storklet leave the nest on August 23 and didn't come back, someone landed on the left. He flew away and the Storklets followed his departure with their eyes .. they turned and looked towards the forest on the right. One of the two, the eldest, took courage and flew behind. I already saw it yesterday, but only the departure and wondered how it could be that he chose this route. Now I have the explanation

It could be it was flying with Grafs!
Since someone was often on the left and it wasn't a feeding, I wonder if Grafs tried to lure them out of the nest and fly with him.
But I don't think storklets would have been able to fly long distances.

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9:18 it is still raining
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15:19 rain is over.. none was in the nest
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only the Grey heron was spotted on the pool feeder
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August 27

Good Morning! :hi:

Yesterday the nest remained empty all day

Nest was empty early morning too. They are gone.
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Most likely Grafs is singing in the forest~6:26 PM 2021/08/24


The little ones can't look for food themselves yet .. We saw in the pictures, that it was begging for food from a plastic stork :slap: .. I don't think that everything is good for the storklets. They were far too young and are totally without experience. They lack the time in the nest with sufficient care after they have been able to fly. They didn't have time to get to know the area ... nothing
Observations show that they need to learn from their parents. There were no more parents here in the end .. Grafs stayed away ...
Now we know what late broods means. It is the wrong time. They depend on food that is available during the normal breeding season.
To make matters worse, the weather was unusually cold and wet at the end of August and is still.
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Liz01 wrote: August 27th, 2021, 6:42 am August 27

Good Morning! :hi:

Yesterday the nest remained empty all day

Nest was empty early morning too. They are gone

Most likely Grafs is singing in the forest~6:26 PM 2021/08/24
Good morning! I hope they are all fine. :loveshower:
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Liz01 wrote: August 27th, 2021, 6:42 am ...
Yesterday the nest remained empty all day

Nest was empty early morning too. They are gone.


The little ones can't look for food themselves yet .. We saw in the pictures, that it was begging for food from a plastic stork :slap: .. I don't think that everything is good for the storklets. They were far too young and are totally without experience. They lack the time in the nest with sufficient care after they have been able to fly. They didn't have time to get to know the area ... nothing
Observations show that they need to learn from their parents. There were no more parents here in the end .. Grafs stayed away ...
Now we know what late broods means. It is the wrong time. They depend on food that is available during the normal breeding season.
To make matters worse, the weather was unusually cold and wet at the end of August and is still.
I don't want to thinking about this worst case scenario... :cry:
Liz, do you think, Grafs has the storklets feed no more outside from our view?
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Birdfriend wrote: August 27th, 2021, 5:58 pm .....
Liz, do you think, Grafs has the storklets feed no more outside from our view?
Birdfriend, I don't know. There is no evidence to confirm that feeding is done outside of the nest.
Had it been observed, it would be documented in my book.

One more thing, before I write nonsense, I have to check it out.I think we, you and I, heard a feeding outside of Ozols and Ziles nest?it was when Ziluka slipped from the branch .. but it may be that she was only begging on the ground.
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August 28

Good Morning everyone! :hi:

5:43 empty nest all night.

news from the pool feeder..
Aleksejs Šaripins No vakardienas, kameras priekšā mūsu cālis vairs nav atrādījes. Vakar viņš pie barotavas uzturējās vairāk par 40min.
Gan vakar, gan šodien pie barotavas joprojām uzturas zivju gārnis. Tas barotavu nepamet.
Dažās bildēs, gārņa uzvedība liecina par to, ka blakus ir vēl kāds, bet, tas protams ir tikai minējums.
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Alexei Sharipin As of yesterday, in front of the camera, our chicken is no longer present. Yesterday he stayed at the feeder for more than 40 minutes.
Both yesterday and today, the heron is still staying at the feeder. It does not leave the feeder.
In some pictures, the heron's behavior suggests that there is someone else nearby, but of course it's just a guess.

Thank you Alexei!
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That heron behas and those ones in Makov: has been staying at the feeder for hours and not letting the others in.

Neirther Grafs nor the storklets returned to the nest but nobody checked the area around.
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asteria wrote: August 28th, 2021, 9:53 am Neither Grafs nor the storklets returned to the nest but nobody checked the area around...
As Maris wrote. they may fly 50m, 100m, or a few kilometers .. up to 50km.
Who should search a radius of 50 km? Who has that much time?

BTW: Well Makov is not a wilderness.
In the wilderness gray heron and black stork, like Egret, are together at the food table
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