Latvian WtE nest webcamera Juras-erglis Durbe 2018

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Re: Latvian WtE nest webcamera Juras-erglis Durbe 2018

Post by ame » October 13th, 2018, 5:10 pm

i have now made some pictures of our visitor for identification purposes.
the tail in two pictures. two spots which are about the same size as those of Raimis. the spots of Raimis have become smaller than they were in spring 2017. this looked a lot like Milda's tail at the first glance.
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regular border between the black back and white tail with big round-tipped dark feathers on the border. no "mustache" stripes on the outer edges of the tail like Raimis has.
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Post by ame » October 13th, 2018, 5:16 pm

the right side. the bird didn't show the right side properly later when the light was better.
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the left side in slightly better light.
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the profile of the head. i think this is a male's beak.
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Urmas once said that females have such long beaks that they seem to go on and on a long way straight before the tip turns down. he illustrated this by showing a Pinocchio's nose (after telling a lie) with his hand. :mrgreen:
Pinocchio's nose was straight to the tip but you'll get the idea from here. male's beak is like the good Pinocchio's nose: short and curves down 'quickly'.
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Post by ame » October 13th, 2018, 5:27 pm

the age system is a bit awkward and puzzling in the beginning. at least i have had difficulties in grasping it an i always have to use my fingers to calculate the ages and/or use examples of our old friends.

the "winter age" is practical in giving the ages outside breeding season, in winter time. Vilnis and Robis are 1st winter eagles (or will be when the winter comes). Durberta hatched in 2015 so she was 1st winter in winter 2016, 2nd winter in winter 2017 and 3rd winter in winter 2018. now she is turning to 4th winter eagle.

the calendar year age is one year more than the winter age. in this respect Vilnis and Robis are 1 year (or 1 Calendar Year, 1 CY) and Durberta is 4 CY. in this system all eagles have their 'birthday' on January 1st: they all turn one year older on the same day. in next January Vilnis and Robis will be 2 calendar years old, but they'll still be 1st winter birds. Durberta will be 5 calendar years old, respectively.

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Post by ame » October 13th, 2018, 5:36 pm

if the visitor this morning really was our old friend H362 / K096, Durberta's big brother, he is 5 CYs now. his tail was very white and eyes were fairly yellow (as far as one could see in the early morning's poor light).

5 CY is not a mature, adult age yet. i think he showed this by playing with the sticks: he made childish catching exercises with the sticks just like Vilnis and Robis did, jumping on the sticks and grabbing them with his claws. (i was worried that he would throw the sticks down as well, like our rascals did. :mrgreen: )

he also showed a lot of more adult-like behaviour. he arranged the sticks: took them in his beak and lifted them around the nest. he was 'playing home', i.e. making nest building exercises. this was something that the dating young eagles did in winters 2016 and 2017, when they were not too busy fighting with each other. i don't believe that this will happen again. Milda and Raimis will keep strangers away. (at least i hope so! fingers crossed and thumbs up! :2thumbsup: )

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Post by ame » October 13th, 2018, 6:06 pm

i made a slow-motion close-up clip of the eagle's rings. i think this was the clearest part of those muddy rings.
i don't believe that Janis will confirm our "identification" based on this evidence. :slap:

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Post by sova » October 13th, 2018, 6:21 pm

Ame .... thank you for all the work and very good explanation. :2thumbsup: Nevertheless, if I had to decide (in which year the eagle is), I would not be sure. :mrgreen:
The video is very blurry, I could not see anything correctly.

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Post by Abigyl » October 13th, 2018, 7:37 pm

Thanks Ame for all the work you have because of our precious Royal family :thumbs:

You named Milda's pattern - Moustache

I named Raimis's pattern - Tulip
Ramis has 1 nice Tulip in the middle, and 2 smaller on both sides of the central.

Robertino/na has 2 nice tulips. https://www.longfield-gardens.com/plant ... -Del-Piero

Later I'll look for Durbertina's patterns.

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Post by Sonchik » October 13th, 2018, 7:41 pm

This situation at 08.28.02 on October 1 could be with today's guest?
https://youtu.be/UUv-yoChct0
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Post by Abigyl » October 13th, 2018, 8:44 pm

Sonchik wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 7:41 pm
This situation at 08.28.02 on October 1 could be with today's guest?
https://youtu.be/UUv-yoChct0
:hi:

The one who came this morning has 2 visible rings. This one has naked feet.

Sonchik, please, when you write the time, we are putting 2 points: 08:28:02

Each time you write with one point, it looks like we write a date and not the time.

Don't worry we all learned on our first year here. Now, we understand better each other!
You made a big progress with your GT :thumbs:

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Post by Sonchik » October 13th, 2018, 8:53 pm

Abigyl wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 8:44 pm
:hi:
Sonchik, please, when you write the time, we are putting 2 points: 08:28:02
Thanks for the hint. I did not know. When translating to me somewhere the colon is inserted and where commas. Now it is clear why. :mrgreen:

How did you make out legs at such distance? I will go in detail I will consider.
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Post by Abigyl » October 13th, 2018, 10:47 pm

Sonchik wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 8:53 pm
Thanks for the hint. I did not know. When translating to me somewhere the colon is inserted and where commas. Now it is clear why. :mrgreen:

How did you make out legs at such distance? I will go in detail I will consider.
Which distance? Where?

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Post by Sonchik » October 13th, 2018, 11:19 pm

Abigyl wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 10:47 pm
Which distance? Where?
Here pictures from video are higher. Raymis drives away someone. This someone departed to the right and Raymis departed directly. I asked - there could be then same today's guest?
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Your answer about the eagle who is flying away to the right:
Abigyl wrote:
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This one has naked feet.
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Post by Abigyl » October 14th, 2018, 12:16 am

During the months of preparations, building the nest, many visitors are coming.

Most of them are coming once and other can come a second time.

You can see on page 1, every year, the list of all the visits. You'll find it on the lower part of the page. This is an example of 2016:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... f=99&t=804

We are not making big stories on each visit, only if it's a bird we know with a ring.

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Post by Liz01 » October 14th, 2018, 6:29 am

October 14

Good Morning all :hi:

I hope there will be frost soon. :bow: I miss the sound of the forest, the voices of the animals.
Milda called two days ago! I would have liked to hear it :innocent:

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Post by Sonchik » October 14th, 2018, 7:15 am

Good morning!
23.9. Latvian K096 again, this time with very dirty feet.
7.10. Latvian K096 again, still with very dirty feet.
Liz01 wrote:
October 13th, 2018, 9:15 am
both rings are identically dirty :rotf:
It seems that it is its business card. :rotf:
Liz01 wrote:
October 14th, 2018, 6:29 am
I hope there will be frost soon. :bow: I miss the sound of the forest, the voices of the animals.
Milda called two days ago! I would have liked to hear it :innocent:
We so much interesting and important passed without sound.
In the summer when children left a nest, we could judge their life only on voices.
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Post by Abigyl » October 14th, 2018, 7:18 am

:hi: Liz. I'm with you! I miss the sounds so much :whistling:

But as I wrote last night, the 2 tropical storms coming up to Europe at this time of the year, are not normal and preventing winter cold to come in.
I hear it's coming in to Portugal now after it left damage in Mallorca, something we never heard about before.
https://elpais.com/elpais/2018/10/10/in ... 91507.html

Looks like cold weather will come only next week. :slap:

It'll be nice to have a visit soon :thumbs:

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Post by Liz01 » October 14th, 2018, 7:25 am

Sonchik, Abigyl :hi:

Abigyl, the climate change will bring us still bad surprises. Rain is needed! It's much to dry in Europe!
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......... :hi: Liz, when you make more pictures please remember the time stamp, too.
I have to apologize :bow:
I know how important the timestamp is. But I was in a big hurry.

ame, please do not forget to register yesterday's visitor on the first page :bow:

8:10 all sticks look unchanged since yesterday.
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Post by Liz01 » October 14th, 2018, 8:35 am

8:33 :loveshower:
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Post by ame » October 14th, 2018, 9:02 am

good morning!

i think that Sonchik made a valuable observation here:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/forum/vie ... 85#p618456
there were three birds, but i'm not sure that the bird in distance is an eagle, too. i'll have to see the video. - anyway, the third bird is too far to see if it had rings.
Liz01 wrote:
October 14th, 2018, 7:25 am
... I have to apologize :bow:
I know how important the timestamp is. But I was in a big hurry.

ame, please do not forget to register yesterday's visitor on the first page :bow:
...
no big deal, Liz. it was around 7:37:30 ->, wasn't it? that was the best time i think.

i'm not sure if Janis will approve of this bird as an identified bird. the pictures were so poor. i haven't even mailed him about it. should i? i am so uncertain about it myself... :dunno:
maybe the DDF people (MĀRIS?) have informed Janis...

it is a beautiful day. :innocent:
today i shall go mushroom hunting. we are going to have an exceptionally warm day here today. i'll try to make pictures of the rings later.
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Post by Liz01 » October 14th, 2018, 9:23 am

ame wrote:
October 14th, 2018, 9:02 am
........... it was around 7:37:30 ->, wasn't it? that was the best time i think.
The best best visibility of the rings. Maybe you will get better pictures than me. :laugh:
7:37:37 (H362)
7:37:41 (H362)
7:41:23 (K096)

ame ,
you go collecting mushrooms, good luck! Here it was to dry for mushrooms! Maris went fishing today in the early morning (like an eagle). :mrgreen:
And I'll go watch cranes, kestrels, buzzards and kites :laugh: We will have again 26 degree.

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