Black Stork Nest in Karula 2019

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Post by _Olga » October 10th, 2019, 1:03 pm

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Post by _Olga » October 10th, 2019, 7:20 pm

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Post by Elena 64 » October 11th, 2019, 3:07 pm

_Olga wrote:
October 10th, 2019, 7:20 pm
Thank God - Aru has been found !! :loveshower: Its wing is injured(( Aru is very weak now. But best vets are taking care of him/her. Hope he may soon recover ! :nod:
Unfortunately, the bird died. That's sad. But it's part of the wilderness.

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Post by Tatiana60 » October 12th, 2019, 1:16 am

We lose Chicks, we lose birds-beautiful black storks, rare, listed in the Red book of many countries... it hurts, it hurts very much to see and hear it... no words... :shock: :faint:

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Post by asteria » October 12th, 2019, 5:38 pm

Unfortunately, only 25% of first year storks survive their first year migration and only 20% live up to three years. But storklets from the nests where parents don't kill the chicks do have the higher chance.

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Post by Kidsmom » October 17th, 2019, 7:19 pm

I was watching the flight pattern daily hoping ARU would make his/her migration. Sadly found out it did not. All my focus is on ORU and his migration. Hopefully we will have a winner in this one. I am heart broken over ARU since it had so many problems and was a fighter. He is soaring high now with no transmitter or bad wing. Rip Aru you are missed.

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Post by pirkkokn » October 17th, 2019, 7:29 pm

It is sad that both Aru and Oru seem to have come to a sad end. Many of us have been following them from the eggs for so many months. Pirkko

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Post by Biker » October 17th, 2019, 8:20 pm

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Post by Dagmar » October 19th, 2019, 10:23 am

I have no more words, only tears....

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Post by asteria » October 21st, 2019, 5:14 pm

Have to repost my message from "Migration maps topic" here:

It is not possible to prevent death of migrating birds, but is it possible to add small fish in the ponds and brooks where the storks are fishing, or just bring food in their nest? I am thinking of those three storklets from Eedi's nest died from hunger. I am not less sorry about them because they were "out of cam view" and we never seen them. Is it possible to take one egg away from Kati's nest, because she always gets rid of one chick? Is it possible to scare the hawk away(if you remember Dab nest, hawks appear there every season, the same will happen in Karula)? When the answers are "no", the situation will only change to worse.

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Post by Biker » October 21st, 2019, 6:20 pm

asteria, i'm afraid it's like that. unfortunately the answers will stay in future like this as they are now: no, no, no..
And yes: the situation will only change to worse. (There)
But there are positive news:
return of BS into regions were they were almost gone.

...moment please i search the report...

edit: 2017
https://www.lwf.bayern.de/mam/cms04/bio ... storch.pdf

ups, only in german

...more BS than experts initially thought.
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Quote: Nevertheless, there were still many observations that suggested that the number of breeding pairs should be higher.
- From 2009 to today, 54 young storks were ringed in the Franconian Forest, with some exciting refind messages. It was also Rohde with his expert eye, who confirmed the suspicion of the local black stalkers: There are many more black storks here than previously known.

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Post by asteria » October 21st, 2019, 7:14 pm

Also this article about deforestation in Estonia is very disturbing. :slap:
https://www.looduskalender.ee/n/index.php/node/3932

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Post by visit » October 21st, 2019, 11:48 pm

asteria wrote:to add small fish in the ponds and brooks where the storks are fishing, or just bring food in their nest
Like raising up some zoos ?
Instead of reducing the own demands and luxury and making the environment more natural and for the birds survivable again ?
asteria wrote:to take one egg away from Kati's nest, because she always gets rid of one chick
Interference because of not being able to cope with the confrontation with the results of the bad human influence (environmental pollution, overfelling and predatory exploitation of nature) ?
Instead of stopping the exploitation and pollution and becoming active in the environmental protection ?
asteria wrote:to scare the hawk away
Discrimination of some animal species you don't like ?
Instead of implementing environmental protection and rebuild the ecological balance ?

you have strange thoughts to see and solve the problems and I miss a basic comprehension for the nature and the natural laws, for the ecological balance and the necessary conditions for that.
that is a little like to put the cart before the horse.

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Post by Dagmar » October 21st, 2019, 11:52 pm

Yes, Biker,
I live on the fringes of the Franconian Forest and often see black storks fly past near my house in the valley by the river

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Post by Biker » October 22nd, 2019, 12:08 am

you lucky one! Thank you Dagmar for your answer. :wave:
in almost 60 years I only had the pleasure three times to see a BS in the wild.

btw your post saved me from making a big mistake.

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Post by asteria » October 22nd, 2019, 1:54 am

The only time I saw a black stork 6 years ago. This year Oru flew there too. :cry:
visit wrote:
October 21st, 2019, 11:48 pm
Like raising up some zoos ?
Instead of reducing the own demands and luxury and making the environment more natural and for the birds survivable again ?


Interference because of not being able to cope with the confrontation with the results of the bad human influence (environmental pollution, overfelling and predatory exploitation of nature) ?
Instead of stopping the exploitation and pollution and becoming active in the environmental protection ?


Discrimination of some animal species you don't like ?
Instead of implementing environmental protection and rebuild the ecological balance ?

you have strange thoughts to see and solve the problems and I miss a basic comprehension for the nature and the natural laws, for the ecological balance and the necessary conditions for that.
that is a little like to put the cart before the horse.
Sure my thoughts are wrong. The rightest thing is to repeat the famous mantra "It'snaturenatureistough" again and again and do nothing!

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Post by Biker » October 22nd, 2019, 10:09 am

asteria, yes as with me too - too fast over. and the first time I did not have a camera yet. But that was sensational even without a photo.
I can not find anything wrong about your thoughts. perhaps i would not act that way if i have the possibility, i don't know. But for me these are in a special way also understandable thoughts.

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Post by visit » October 22nd, 2019, 11:11 am

asteria wrote:The rightest thing is to repeat the famous mantra "It'snaturenatureistough" again and again and do nothing!
If you had read my posting more attentive, then you would have recognized that i had nothing written like your "again and again and do nothing!"
There are many possibilities to do something !
They are only much more unconvenient...

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Post by Biker » October 22nd, 2019, 12:39 pm

and she has not written that you wrote that.

I'm sorry, I'm deviate much from the topic.

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Post by asteria » October 22nd, 2019, 2:21 pm

Imagine today is not October, 22 but April, 22, six months earlier or later. Karl2, Kati and four eggs in the nest. You know what is going to happen. What would you do to change the situation to the best?

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