Ospreys and Eagles in Finland ~ 2009 & 2010

[ame]

hi JO!
i tried Fraps once and managed to get two pictures with it. then i read the Technical pages again and learned and that it doesn't work with Vista which i have. now i don't have a faintest clue how i managed to take those two pictures in the first place . my dream was, of course, to record video picture.. now i think i should take one little step at a time. and i also think it is more educational to get a time series of pictures (if you can't record video) than just to catch amazing snap shots. (this doesn't mean i didn't appreciate those, too!) therefore i prefer a quick way to snap lots of pictures in a row. i think a series like that gives a more natural insight in the life of these birds. -i'm awkward, i know, but i'm learning slowly...

[ame]

i managed to get a three-picture series of the ospreys in Hailuoto in which we can see that the bride there wears the ring in her left ankle.

i have some more pictures more, too, but they'll be available later. see you!

Picture deleted for copyright reasons.
Apologies to ame.

[ame]

to my amazement this morning i saw that in the Nauvo/Seili nest there was an osprey with a ring, just like Renandeli remarked this morning:

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i also studied the Finnish Saaristomeri-discussion forum this morning and found out that there seemed to have appeared a bird on the nest with a ring. it was seen for the first time after 2 pm yesterday. it had been rather quiet on the nest before that for a while, but there has been an active couple ( ) since yesterday afternoon, again. it's even possible that the both birds are new there. it is difficult to tell, however, since the other birds have (had) no rings.
and today morning the couple was there enjoying the glorious morning, each others company and a delicious breakfast (many breakfasts, and lunches,too ) like this:



you can have a look at the other pictures of this morning in P-bucket in the address:
http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss54 ... =slideshow
i'll be off for tonight,

[Olga]

A serie of pictures from Hailuoto.

http://kotinetti.suomi.net/saaksi/index.php

Today I saw there only one ospray, and later that it has a ring.


Then I saw there are two ospreays... like eysterday.


I thought that the osprays are sleepy. Their eyes were shut at while, again and again, after 19:30


But no, they were only resting at 19:44


Then they mated 19:45, about


The male flied away.. Female on the nest alone at 20:00


sry, the pictures could be of same size... I was impatiente..

Many apologies to you, Renandeli, for deleting those very good osprey pictures. Thanks to all who brought this matter to our attention, and enabled us to do the right thing.
Jo

[Moose]

"Concerning copyright, it is usually acceptable to take and use a picture provided the original source is quoted. For example Picture taken from Looduskalender EE"

Last year Studio Voitto Pulkkinen expressed clearly in Saaristomeri.info discussions that pictures taken at Hailuoto webcam nest are not allowed to be published by anybody else. Look at this link (the text in Finnish):
http://www.saaristomeri.info/keskustelu ... ion_id=136 .

So, I suppose this still the situation here also

[Olga]

Ame There are so wonderful pictures in your photobucket album!

ame said

to my amazement this morning i saw that in the Nauvo/Seili nest there was an osprey with a ring, .../.. you can have a look at the other pictures of this morning in P-bucket in the address:
http://s561.photobucket.com/albums/ss54 ... =slideshow:

If you dont mind I'll put here some of them, it is not easy to get those pictures where thay are flying.. or mating.. well, but these are only some few from your album. Worth to put here, I think. Ame's shots:

viewtopic.php?p=34872#p34872

[Jo UK]

In that case. where the owner has expressly forbidden publication elsewhere, that is the law for that site!

See Looduskalender Introduction for our copyright requirements, if posting LK images elsewhere

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17

Scroll down to the paragraph about Copyright.

[Olga]

In that case. where the owner has expressly forbidden publication elsewhere, that is the law for that site!

See Looduskalender Introduction for our copyright requirements, if posting LK images elsewhere

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17

Scroll down to the paragraph about Copyright.

Only now I read what it was said there in Sääksi-cam forum about Studio Pulkkinen's web cam pictures: They have decided to not to allow their webcam pictures to be published anywhere.

"Studio V. Pulkkisen päätös:
Hailuodon sääksikuvat ei muiden julkaistavia."


My, propably not a very correct or 'good' translation of the cite from Saaristomeri.info abowe:

"The decition of Studio V. PuLkkinen:
Ospray pictures from Hailuoto are not allowed to be published by others"

So, maybe I (we) have to delete what I (we) have taken from there.. :((

http://www.saaristomeri.info/keskustelu ... ion_id=136

( I added the the Studio V. Pulkkinen logo on my pics..if I had cutted the original Hailuoto shot so small, that it had been left to invisibility..)

To those who have not read all posts concerning this question: Look the post of Moose:

viewtopic.php?p=34877#p34877

[Jo UK]

Yes, it does seem that pictures from that webcam should be deleted from here, now that the Finnish language text has been translated and we can understand their intentions.

That is sad, but we have many more beautfil webcams and pictures to enjoy, instead.

[ame]

does this also mean that we need to delete these pictures by Studio Pulkkinen from the Photobucket and our own computers?
what a shame... but it is their business after all.

it's great that we can still watch these two osprey cameras side by side, though. i was watching them yesterday evening between about half past five to six o'clock, while both couples were standing in their nests facing the evening sun side by side and looking around and about their realms. the positions of the couples were similar and they changed it almost at the same pace. and there is about 650 km distance between the nests! imagine if all the osprey couples in Finland and Sweden etc. were doing the same evening routine at the same time!

[ame]

Ame There are so wonderful pictures in your photobucket album!

ame said If you dont mind I'll put here some of them, it is not easy to get those pictures where thay are flying.. or mating.. well, but these are only some few from your album. Worth to put here, I think. Ame's shots:

viewtopic.php?p=34872#p34872

oh wau, thanks Renandeli! you saved me a lot of work!!
i am working so slowly with this thing that i was quite exhausted yesterday evening. after figuring out how to post the Pulkkinen pictures i could just about load the Nauvo pictures in the P-bucket... and now it turned out that we are not supposed to do that at all. all that wasted effort!
i was hoping that i would later have time & strength to select and post some good Nauvo pic's here in the forum, but you saved me from doing that .

[Jo UK]

does this also mean that we need to delete these pictures by Studio Pulkkinen from the Photobucket and our own computers?
what a shame... but it is their business after all.

Ame, I did feel bad about undoing all the work you had done.
I don't know the answer to your question about pictures in bucket.
Not knowing their language, I am not sure about their intentions. Is it actually about copyright, or not? I wish they had an English language version so we could know what they mean.

[ame]

no problem, JO . to be on the safe side i already deleted the pictures from the P-bucket. it was best, i don't want get the law after us...
besides this saves me a lot of work, since now i don't have to take those pictures. it was a kind of duty for us the Finnish members to do that, you know...
besides the my family here started to get a little annoyed with me just playing with the computer all the time.
anyways, i think i learned something. it was not wasted.

[Moose]

Yes, it's sad to delete those nice pictures taken the Hailuoto nest. You can continue to do so for your personal private use and store them for example on some net albums. These albums have to be private, not open for public and you can't publish them anywhere, so that someone can copy them.

[Jo UK]

Thanks Moose.
It's good to know what is correct, however sad we are to remove the pics..

[ame]

Yes, it's sad to delete those nice pictures taken the Hailuoto nest. You can continue to do so for your personal private use and store them for example on some net albums. These albums have to be private, not open for public and you can't publish them anywhere, so that someone can copy them.

i might as well have that private album in my own computer then...
it's not fun, not sharing them with others..
i think this sharing of 'observations' has been one of the most valuable things here in the LK forums. otherwise we can all sit at home without knowing that there are other people like us out there, equally out of their tiny wits...

[ame]

hmm.. Houston, i may have a problem: i uploaded my Nauvo-pictures of today and the remaining few of yesterday's pictures into P-bucket straight from my desktop and now they seem to have disappeared from my computer... . or are they hiding somewhere in my PC?? so far i have created a separate file for them in my PC, moved them there and then copied them to P-bucket.
it they are not playing hide and seek in my PC, is there a way to copy them back to my computer from P-bucket? i couldn't find one straight way to do it.. in a way it may just fine if they were only in P-bucket. they are going to fill up my PC in some stage...

[Olga]

ame

..is there a way to copy them back to my computer from P-bucket?

Yes there is. I have done it. I clicked yesterday my eagle pictures 'big' on photobucket, one by one (where ever the pics there are..) and then, right clicked the picture and chose 'save the image and give it a name', they, copies, go directly in to your folders .. i hate i can't say PC-things in English

[ame]

ame Yes there is. I have done it. I clicked yesterday my eagle pictures 'big' on photobucket, one by one (where ever the pics there are..) and then, right clicked the picture and chose 'save the image and give it a name', they, copies, go directly in to your folders .. i hate i can't say PC-things in English

Ok, i'll give that a try. thanks for the advice.
it isn't much easier to say or even understand these PC-things in Finnish, too! ask a geek = nörtti something and he'll (obs! masculine, of course) gives you a 10-minute lecture in Finnish and you only understand a word here and an other there... you are very lucky to have a PC-fairy who speaks Finnish (if i remember right)

[ame]

i was googling pictures of 'linjataulu Nauvo' = leading mark in Nauvo and i found few pictures from the NatureIt-web pages in this address
http://natureit.net/index.php?page=tekniikka
on this page there is a technical description of the camera and data transmission technique. unfortunately it's in Finnish... i made copies of three pictures in P-bucket. here you can see them a bit larger than on the web pages:







in the lower left corner of the second picture you can see the big black lamp that was there in the earlier years and about which we were discussing two weeks ago, and which is not there anymore.

in the link below you can find the archive of NatureIt:
http://natureit.fi/index.php?page=arkisto
there is also a text saying in Finnish (again): "Kameran tuottamaa kuvaa saa vapaasti käyttää medioissa sillä ehdolla, että kuvan lähteenä mainitaan Turun AMK / natureit.net " which is in English something like that 'the pictures produced by the camera may be used freely in media on the condition that the source is quoted: Turun AMK / natureit.net' (Turun AMK is the Polytechnical University of Turku). so here we are not criminals as long as we don't edit the logo in the upper left corner off the pictures
the latest piece of news on the news pages is dated a year ago. it's a shame that these pages are not updated and not translated in English..